Editing cavalry to dismount (*I need help!*)

[Aedeling]

Hi,

I am currently trying to make all(or at least my favorite)
cavalry units able to dismount in any battles, not just in
castle sieges.

As far as I understand, the changes must be made to
crusaders_unit_prod11.xt in the main folder of the MTW.
In that file, following the dismounted unit type of
current cavalry unit, there should be YES if the cavalry
unit can dismount in open battles and NO(or blank?) if
it can only dismount prior to castle battles. However when
I try to add YES to Teutonic Sergeants(for example), the
game won't load and complains about unknown unit type in
line xx/row xx. Then I must replace the whole file with
original to get the game work again.

Could anyone help me with this?


PS

I also tried the UK_DISMOUNT_crusaders_unit_prod11 -mod
from the download section, but it didn't work either = the
game crashed when trying to open it.

I want to get those Teutonic Knights to dismount when they
are facing armies of Turkish spearmen in a forested
valley http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Btw, I replaced Chivalric Foot Knights
with Gothic Foot Knights for Teutonic Knights as
dismounted unit type in the same file and it worked just
fine.

(version: Viking Invasion)

[MonkeyMan]

Hi Aedeling welcome to the org http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

This is an extract from an old post I did.


Quote[/b] ]1. I want to make feudal knights (or any other unit) dismountable all the time:

Go into crudaders_unit_prod11.txt open it in WordPad (or download a excel version of the files and use as they state in their read me, you can probably get one from www.totalwar.org but be aware that this may fail to work with a patched version of the game)

Search down the entries for the entry for the entry for feudal knights, each entry will probably take two lines and make sure you ignore the entry for feudal foot knights for the time being.

Once you have found it go right to the end (probably on the second line) and you will find the following ?

BerberCamel, bedouincamelwarriors FeudalFootKnights SWORD

add in the word YES before sword so you get

BerberCamel, bedouincamelwarriors FeudalFootKnightsn YES SWORD

note that this should be separated from the words around it by a TAB.

Now save this and start a game of MTW to test if it works. Note that if you get an error message this normally relates to the correctness of what you entered so either restore your backup version (you remembered to do that right) or go into the file again and amend the spacing between each item you edited, most items should have one tab between them, of the nature that each is an entry in a dataset, and two tabs are required if there is no entry for a particular value so pay careful attention to whats thes before you start.

For more info on modding in general take a look in the
Dungeon (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=SF;f=5) particularly the posts at the top where I found my old post. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

The chances are you missed out a TAB or something similar. Note that a lot of the current mod downloads are for pre VI MTW. In order to use them you will need to follow the instrations for doing a dual install of VI & MTW that came with VI. Hope that all helps http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

That post is truly timeless, Monkeyman. I've used it three times when replying to people asking me how to add dismounting. A true tour de force of a modding guide.

[Aedeling]

Yes

Messing with tabs solved the problem and now I can enjoy the game even more.

Thanks for the very quick and precise help MonkeyMan

[MonkeyMan]

Your very welcome Aedeling http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Mechstra]

To make life even easier, download the GnomeEditor from the Org's download section, and use it to edit unitprod, buildprod, and ProjectileStats. It's very useful, as it doesn't hurt your eyes to look at it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Z0eL]

The error you saw is caused probably for missing tab or something in the format, I've experienced this errors too, because i edited too much the files and i missed some tabs.
As Mechstra said, download Gnome Editor, it's kinda magic if you like to modify this file cause you don't need to care about the format (well, not too much). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif