Unleash Hell....

[Mamushi]

Am I the only one who is slavering for, among other things on RTW, recreating the opening scene from Gladiator? I know it may not be historically acurate and all, but it looked pretty darn good on the DVD So, any other oddballs out there? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[Gaius Julius]

I must admit, when Maximus says: "unleash hell", and the Romans begin to kick barbarian a$$, the blood does begin to boil. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Mamushi]

Gaius, thank you for responding, I was starting to think this thread had offended someone...just not very exciting I guess... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Balamir]

I wouldnt mind having such a feature, but frankly I wouldnt mind not having such a feature either. Its up to CA..

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (Mamushi @ June 29 2003,14:57)]Gaius, thank you for responding, I was starting to think this thread had offended someone...just not very exciting I guess... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Maybe you are just the only oddball around here... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[jLan]

I always thought that battle looked so one sided :o

[khurjan]

actually i thought it was quite funny seeing roman calvary charging through the forest something no roman calvary would do in their right minds

[Hakonarson]

Not even to surprise an enemy by attacking their rear while they're engaged to their front? After all most of the actual fighting was done in relatively light woods, with lots of spaces between the trees, or even out in the open.

sounds like a reasonable option to me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Longshanks]

The battle in the beginning of Gladiator may have had some "Hollywood moments", but I actually didn't mind. It was an entertaining battle scene. It may have been a little one-sided, but then most of the real battles between the Romans and the barbarians were too

[Mamushi]

I agree with it having it's hollywood moments,but it was a relatively entertaining battle,as they go. I watched that opening bit last night to try and inventory equpment needed. A bit strange sounding I am sure,but it was a slow Sunday...And Balimir,you being here proves I am not the ONLY oddball around... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Balamir]

Quote[/b] (Mamushi @ June 30 2003,07:01)]And Balimir,you being here proves I am not the ONLY oddball around... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Ok my friend Im going to be honest with you. what I meant above was not meaning that I wanted it. I was just saying "I dont give a damn" in a more polite way.

[Nelson]

Quote[/b] (Mamushi @ June 27 2003,18:50)]Am I the only one who is slavering for, among other things on RTW, recreating the opening scene from Gladiator?
If you mean using flaming arrows in a field battle, I hope not. Such a thing makes no sense. The movie was cool I'll grant you. But these should only be used for siege warfare. I expect a lot more accuracy from CA than I do from Hollywood.

[Mamushi]

Good point Nelson,it does make for more drama,but less sense,but then it is Hollyweird...

[Lehesu]

Hell, why don't we add freezing arrows and turn it into an RPG? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Monk]

Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ June 30 2003,14:46)]Hell, why don't we add freezing arrows and turn it into an RPG? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
hell yeah lol j/k http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Quote[/b] (Monk @ June 30 2003,19:48)]
Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ June 30 2003,14:46)]Hell, why don't we add freezing arrows and turn it into an RPG? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
hell yeah lol j/k http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
+5 initiative against legionare-granting technicolour dreamcoat Lvl 38 hoplites -4 sagacity magic monkey It's all here folks

[Mamushi]

All right,who opened the bottle of scotch this early and why is nobody sharing Please, i try and forget my RPG days, and I mean the old paper and pencil versions,not this whimpy computer generated ones Why kids today do not even know what an RPG is,why in my day we actually had to roll dice,and create our caracters on sheets of paperYou bastards,no repect for us older dungeon crawlers..grumble.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[khurjan]

hehehe.....no calvary without stirrups would charge even through a hilly terrain even light wooded and not especially the way they held their spears...normal calvary at that time would hold it over rather than under the arm.... but i agree still it was entertaining battle


siege artillery on a battle field was rarely used unless it was light ballista http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Lazul]

hehe well if i was the barbarian general at that battle i would just tell mi homies in my army to go far to the left...then the romans would be really pissed of couse all the catapults are aiming at the wrong please. Then i would draw the romans in to the thick forrest where tight formations wont help much. But thats just me tho.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Macedon]

My most cherised moment from the opening sequence:
A dirty bearded big German with an axe in his hand raises the head of the messenger,yelling something we all understand... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[kataphraktoi]

The Romans all had British accents - must of been serving the end of their 25 year service in Germania - and not enough cursing and swearing by these Roman veterans.

Where is Macedonia?

But more importantly, who's gonna answer first:
A Macedonian or a Greek?

Any F.Y.R.O.M - ians here?

Jus Kidding.

I'd rather create the Battle of Carrhae but Gladiator sounds good - and all that Hollywood stuff that comes along.

Connie Nielsen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Macedon]

Quote[/b] (kataphraktoi @ July 05 2003,11:57)]Where is Macedonia?

But more importantly, who's gonna answer first:
A Macedonian or a Greek?

Any F.Y.R.O.M - ians here?

Jus Kidding.

You are a very funny man...and lucky,as I rarely get mad on people that are not in front of me.No point in that.

[Basileus]

Quote[/b] (Macedon @ July 06 2003,13:01)]
Quote[/b] (kataphraktoi @ July 05 2003,11:57)]Where is Macedonia?

But more importantly, who's gonna answer first:
A Macedonian or a Greek?

Any F.Y.R.O.M - ians here?

Jus Kidding.

You are a very funny man...and lucky,as I rarely get mad on people that are not in front of me.No point in that.
and what exactly would you do if he was infront of you mate? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Macedon]

mpfff...probably he is not well familiar with the subject...
...made just a bad joke...
I appoligize to kataphraktoi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Hakonarson]

Nah - I'm sure he knows perfectly well the sensitivities of Greeks and FYROM-ians over the term "Macedonia".

A lot of people in the west are.

A lot think it's utterly pathetic since neither country actually has much left of Alexander's "blood" left in it after millenia of conquest and subjugation by Romans, Asiatic, Turks, Germans, Franks, Catalans and miscellaneous others.

[kataphraktoi]

Macedon, no need to apologise.

It was just a remininsce of my debates with a few Macedonian friends back in high school about Macedonia on borders, languages and other stuff. The debates were all lighthearted, we never had to get into fights with the UN intervening from their safe zones. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Thats because the debate was trivial in nature, it was an excercise in curiosity of confronting a sensitive issue.
I am not Greek by the way so you can tell that I had nationalist agenda behind it. hehe.
Its just a little joke about "who's gonna answer first" - because naturally every Macedonian or Greek will have their two dinars/drachmas about it - Thessaloniki, Pella Alexander the Great, etc.......you knuw what I mean.

[Macedon]

All emigrated Macedonians have an archaic(hope I'm spelling this right http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) stand about our history...
Most modern (and urban)Macedonians have no ilussions about some connection between us and antic macedonians.The Greeks got it wrong thinking that we have some territorial claims.We don't.After all,we are a peaceful country.It's just those Albanians... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Basileus]

Quote[/b] (Hakonarson @ July 06 2003,18:08)]A lot think it's utterly pathetic since neither country actually has much left of Alexander's "blood" left in it after millenia of conquest and subjugation by Romans, Asiatic, Turks, Germans, Franks, Catalans and miscellaneous others.
I didnt see anyone talk about who has alexanders bloodline heh, i guess the problems usualy between greeks and ppl from skopje is about the culture heritage from that time, dunno who your refering that think the claims are pathetic if you ask me thats just stupid way to look at it..noone could identify with anything historicly with that type of thinking..

macedon i was just playing with yo..;)

[hrvojej]

Too bad that we don't have any Maori or Aborigin patrons... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Hakonarson]

I'm glad no-one took overt offence - well done chaps http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

BTW hrvojej....how do yo know I'm not Maori?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

In htese parts there are 2 ways to be Maori.

Politically - Maori can chose to vote for seperate parliamwntary seats if they want - what it takes is a declaration that you want to be on het Maori electoral roll instead of the General one.

Culturally - you need to show Maori ancestry - any direct ancestor will do - even a single great-great-great-great grandparent is enough to allow you membership of any of the Iwi (tribes), and access to their wealth and privilige - which tends to be more used by middle-class than the poor who really need it

[Mamushi]

Sounds like having American indian heritage...the wealth,the privelege..yeah right,sure. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[kataphraktoi]

Quote[/b] ]It's just those Albanians... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Take it out on the Turks. No no just kidding.

I claim descent from Alexander the Great, I haven't put in my claims yet, apparently theres a long queue in the welfare line, everyone's claiming royalities on all artifacts related to Iskander. But, seriously. People do claim descent from Alexander, how the heck did they wake up and decide that they were the fruits of Alexander?

[Macedon]

I don't claim nothing.No wait,I claim the right of the Holy ChairYeah,that's it...Yeah...ok... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Oaty]

My most cherised moment from the opening sequence:
A dirty bearded big German with an axe in his hand raises the head of the messenger,yelling something we all understand...
[QUOTE]

I don't know if you were joking or not but you did'nt say what he said and I have no idea what he said and I always wondered what he had said and finally right said fred said I am too sexy............ lol

So what de he say in ENGLISH TRANSLATION

[Macedon]

My point was,no matter what language you speak,you get the point.Get the point? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Captain Fishpants]

That would explain why all the chanting the Germans are doing at the start of "Gladiator" is actually a sound sample lifted straight from "Zulu" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

MikeB ~ CA

[kataphraktoi]

Copyright infringement anybody????

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (Captain Fishpants @ July 10 2003,14:02)]That would explain why all the chanting the Germans are doing at the start of "Gladiator" is actually a sound sample lifted straight from "Zulu" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

MikeB ~ CA
Boom boom boom boomboom boomboom boomboom

AAAAAAYEEEEEEEEEH

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Doesn't sound very German http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Longshanks]

Mr. Severed Head Tosser does say something Germanic sounding at least, even if all his cronies sound like Zulus.

[LordUxbridge]

Hey, i was beginning to think nobody else had noticed that Zulu thing, anyone know why they did that?

[Captain Fishpants]

Quote[/b] (LordUxbridge @ July 14 2003,09:03)]Hey, i was beginning to think nobody else had noticed that Zulu thing, anyone know why they did that?
In-joke, tiny tribute to the greatness of "Zulu" or a wee detail for sad trainspotters? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Take your pick, but it's definitely the Zulu movie battlecry. I have the suspicion that it's "Usuthu" [Death] or something similar.

MikeB ~ CA

[Vanya]

GAH

ZULU - Greenwich meridian time.

They used zulu speaches because England is on zulu time and the director's wife's cousin's brother's girlfriend's husbands' mistress had a thing for captain Zulu of Star Trek. Add to that the fact that it was either that or hearing Jim Carrey gibberish voiceovers for the germans.

Plus, the whole "Shaka, and the walls fell" phenomenon was exactly what the germans were going for. The idea was good, but the implementation was flawed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

On the prior tribulation... the whole macedonian thing... Vanya sez...

"Macedonanian" is a term derived from greek mafia boses from the heralded age of antiquity, also known as "dons", that had a penchant for using maces to smash the skulls of their enemies. Hence, these peoples were generally referred to as the "mace dons" by the locals. When the Romans took that stretch of land, they simply adopted the term to label the whole people. The people of the "mace dons" became "macedonians".

GAH

Vanya assures you this is all true. Take it from somebody who lopped off a few heads during those days... looong ago...

GAH