Strange Golden Horde bug...

[Kadagar]

i play byz v 1.1

anyway, i was really looking forward to the 1230 battle of khazar (sp)... anyway, this is what happened.

after a long (LONG) fight i'm running low on reinforcements... and almost all of my rangetroops are dead... I knew i only had some 3k men left to kill though, so i thought i would be able to win, still.

anyway, i tell my troops to leave the center and go for a forest (only had 9 damaged units of varanian guards left)...

then the weird stuff started to happen.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

first of all i lose sight on the small map, ie, i cant see the enemy forces... i saw one unit in the distance though, and it was standing still..

after waiting like 10 minutes i taek a unit and go look around the map... that ONE unit was really all of the avaliable comp units (16 units) crowded together... the 16 horseunits occupied the area of one unit... i attacked with one unit of varanian guards, and lost, half of them chased after me and created a new cube further away...

they only reacted upon direct attack though...

so i send for all of my guards, surrounded them and killed the 2 cubes... (no one was left alive, pretty cool when you totally surround a unit).

the comp sent in his reinforcements, and they made another cube... 16 units standing together in smallest possible area...

i attacked them to after a while, but ran out of time.... i won, but the fun battle i had been looking forward to turned into, bugs http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

given this company seems pretty damn bad at patching and stuff (56 bug anyone?) i guess it cant be solved either..

anyone have a clue? I saved the game.

[Gregoshi]

I've not heard of that problem before. I'd hazard to guess you were the victim of a very unusual set of circumstances. If it happened more often we would have heard very loud screams by now. In the many calls for patch, I don't recall anyone mentioning fix the Mongol square bug. Me thinks CA could have tested for a year straight and maybe never found that bug.

[MiniKiller]

so they stood there and didnt fight back?

[hrvojej]

Sometimes, you get some weird AI behaviours. Sometimes, the AI seems as if it just gave up, making no efforts to reposition etc., as if it dropped out of the game, and reacting only to direct attacks. Sometimes, teh reinforcements will form a column while they are arriving, often at the maximum bowshot distance from your troops. Maybe in your case, they were trying to form a column, but didn't have enough space if they were close to the edge of the map? Nevertheless, I think they should have spread out just from being overlapped, or does that rule not apply to the AI? You know, when you set up a perfect formation, and then your archers walk out because a single man was placed in the neighbouring unit.
I've never seen the square, but I've seen units that were just 3 men wide lined up and whenever I attacked one of them, the others would just stand and do nothing. In any case, weird things do happen.

[Kadagar]

hrvojej>>> obviosly overlapping wasnt a problem... pretty irritating bug though.

minikiller>>> they fought back if attacked... and they fired arrows at troops in distance. They also chased after fleeing troops (but stopped and did nothing when fighting was finished).

gregoshi>>> still it must be good for CA to know about it so they can learn from it.. the fact that troops also disappeared from minimap must have something to do with it..

I'd like to watch the batte again and see exactly what happened, but as it was loong battle i dont have the time
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[Maelstrom]

I've seen another thread about this somewhere - There was no answer, but I have certainly experienced the exact same problem as have other on the boards....

[ShadesPanther]

Ive heard of this with the mongols, when they almost run out of units they form a defensive formation near the edge of the map. I think it happened to you but it mustn't of done it right or something. The ai acts very strange sometimes as documented above http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[bighairyman]

yep, i heard this in alot of forums.

and never insult the MONGOLS. they're my favorite faction. and they kick arse

[Gregoshi]

Apparently I stand corrected. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif