Massive loyalty drop for general

[Urban Legend]

Anyone tired of this?

A non-royal blooded general I've been grooming has his loyalty drop from around 7 to 2 when his old majesty bought it.

Old monarch had a +2 loyalty to all gen V&V, that doesn't account for it. In the previous turn though I send the general to a 160 vs 4000 battle and gained skilled attacker and risky skilled attacker V&V, I'm sure that has nothing to do with his loyalty.

This blows, and I thought I have finally gotten a 5 star general who is not of royal blood and loyal to train. Grrr, I had to kill the previous 5 stars due to lack of loyalty.

[Mechstra]

The new king's influence could affect this, too. The higher the influence, the higher the loyalty, I've found.

[Knight Keimo]

It´s becouse the lower influence of the new King. It drops allmost every time, unless it´s been very, very high..
Another possibility is that old king had very likely some V&V like builder or magnificent builder, these come very easily during kings lifetime and increase the loyalty.

[eddie0909]

What he hell are you talking about lol? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Urban Legend]

Quote[/b] (Knight Keimo @ July 07 2003,13:46)]It´s becouse the lower influence of the new King. It drops allmost every time, unless it´s been very, very high..
Another possibility is that old king had very likely some V&V like builder or magnificent builder, these come very easily during kings lifetime and increase the loyalty.
Unless the influence affects only certain generals. The loyalty drop didn't affect all the generals. Also the builders V&V can only account for 2 loyalty.

[Urban Legend]

Quote[/b] (eddie0909 @ July 07 2003,16:26)]What he hell are you talking about lol? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
do you mean. What in Sam's Hill is he blabbling about?

[the Black Prince]

i think he means that a new monarch can have lower influence for a while (coz he's a young king maybe) and that this affects the loyalty of the generals. not suree about that myself though.

normaly it happens to me when a new king has some kind of
vice which the generals don't like.
or it could be natural, i mean, the general swore loyalty to the old king,so he's gonna need to adjust to the new king first, isn't he? he may not like the new king and think he's a spoiled idiot and good for nothing, there's many reasons why in real life the loyalty might drop, and ca may just have hardcoded some of these into the games - for realism.

[A.Saturnus]

I would say it´s the drop of influence. That other generals weren`t affected can be because their loyalty was so high that you don`t see any difference.

[o_loompah_the_delayer]

Marry of a dughter to him and if he has got good stats make him chancellor or something, but it does happen the worst I have had is a drop to three.

[hellenes]

Dont know how this would help but you can do this to improve the influence if you are playing as muslim faction just rebell intentionally one province let the rebels take it (exept the castle the buildings remain intact http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )then declare a number of jihads that you have build in the neighburing province the rebels will give you the province without fight (they have to be muslim) and you will have all those nice jihad units the money from confiscated lands AND one crown of influence per successful jihad http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif