Chivalric or Feudal?

[Joejoe84]

Hello again, ive read many posts on these boards where people seem to use feudal troops more than chivalric, i dont really understand this because Ive seen their stats and chivalric seems to be better. So is there any kind of bonus on hte feudal troops?

[GoldenKnightX2]

Some people use fuedal troops because they are cheaper. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[pdoan8]

Most of the times, cheaper troop = cheaper upgrades. It's important for online games when players often pick units base on performance/price ratio.

It's not really matter in SP. I usually go for the best available. In most cases, Chiv line is better. However, there are a few cases that Chiv and Feudal are a little different such as Chiv Sergeant and Feudal Sergeant. Chiv are better equiped but lower morale. Sometimes the usage is also a little different. For example: Feaudal Sergeant may be better in the desert than Chiv Sergeant due to the facts that Feudal have less armour and better morale.

[King of Poland]

Feudals (knights and man at arms) have more expansive support cost.
I use them only on early period.

[Kekvit Irae]

Because I have a load of money by the time I am able to build feudals or chivalrics (I build stuff like armories first), I always go for the more expensive but powerful units.

[Portuguese Rebel]

In sp you will only want feudal units over chiv ones in the desert, due to the armour penalty for heavy units. Unit cost by the time you get chiv units usually is not that important since the upkeep is favourable to the chiv units, they just cost more initially.

The question between Feudal sargeants and Chiv sargeants is that the feudals, for a game balancing purpose have better morale. But they need better morale because they will die faster and the morale penalty would make them run too fast, if their morale was at the chiv sargeants level. This is usually only a question when your army is routing, the chiv (elite)units will run faster than the feudals, wich is kind of lame but necessary to game balance.

Some say this makes the chiv sargeants unreliable, and it is in some ways, but in 1v1 then will munch feudals anytime, and can hold ground against feudal men-at-arms, wich feudal seargents can't.

[ShadesPanther]

In mp ts important because you cant upgrade morale that well, yes valour increases it but not by that much so it is better to have a good base morale. After all the fighting stats can be upgraded. Even though i dont play western factions its basically the same for them all

EDIT: Whey hey 200 posts http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Gregoshi]

Hear ye Hear ye The Org wishes to welcome the King of Poland to our humble, and slightly whacked forums. May your days and knights never be feudal. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[ShogunRokkaku]

fuedal seargants are a lovely standard unit to have in your armies, as are men at arms, but chivalrics are just plain better, I always use chilvarics because I use men at arms last in my battles, they are the elite and are saved to the end where 3 units of them can annihilate a knackered army.