TW Expansions

[General Malaise]

Hm, let's see...

Shogun: Total War :: Shogun: Total War - The Mongol Invasion

Medieval: Total War :: Medieval: Total War - The Viking Invasion

Rome: Total War :: Rome: Total War - The Hun Invasion???

[Oaty]

Yes yes yes but thats the easy part. The real question is what is the next series lol

[katar]

as the time periods seem to going backwards, i`m thinking..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif possibly Sumerian Total War with the Assyrian Invasion Pack http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[karmastray]

Quote[/b] (katar @ July 21 2003,22:31)]as the time periods seem to going backwards, i`m thinking..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif possibly Sumerian Total War with the Assyrian Invasion Pack http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
The ultimate will be: Paleolithic: Total War with the Sabre-toothed Tiger Invasion Expansion Pack

I can't wait The dudes with the clubs are gonna kick arse, just like it should be.

[MF_Ivan]

Next in the series will most likely be Napoleonic Total War hopefully on the RTW engine. I say around December 2005.

[General Malaise]

Yeah, the other expansion packs went backwards but I think it would make more sense in this case to go forward with RTW.

As for Napoleonic Total War I personally hope they avoid the gunpowder ages altogether. I'd rather have the next one be set in ancient China or something.

[katar]

Napoleonic Total War

it is a popular era for games, so it will probably be done. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

just have to wait and see what the RTW engine works like.

[a_ver_est]

RTW is focused in Republic and Early Empire, there is a lot of uncovered Empire years to make a couple expansions.

[Pdifolco]

Quote[/b] (karmastray @ July 22 2003,06:37)]
Quote[/b] (katar @ July 21 2003,22:31)]as the time periods seem to going backwards, i`m thinking..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif possibly Sumerian Total War with the Assyrian Invasion Pack http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
The ultimate will be: Paleolithic: Total War with the Sabre-toothed Tiger Invasion Expansion Pack

I can't wait The dudes with the clubs are gonna kick arse, just like it should be.
Nope...
It'll be Dinosaurs Total War and expansion the Mammal Invasions http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Duraz_asks]

for one huns didnt really invade they showed up when rome was on the edge of breaking and secondly why is everyone obsessed with nepolianic get over it plz start thinking of more creative like a greek tw or a Mongol tw sure theyve been in both stw and mtw but have we had the pleasure of taking over asia with them... also why not a indian tw (american indians) or a world tw in certain time periods and have 100s of civs or how ever many fit time period

[katar]

of more creative like a greek tw

i live in hope of this coming to pass

all the way from the first Persian invasion, Thebes and Epaminodas(sp), till the rise of Philip II and Alexander the Great, that would be heaven. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

The New World:Total war wold be a great laugh. Starting in around 1492 and then carrying on to either the Seven years war or the American war of independance,split up into different time periods of course.

[KukriKhan]

Quote[/b] (General Malaise @ July 21 2003,22:42)]Yeah, the other expansion packs went backwards but I think it would make more sense in this case to go forward with RTW.

As for Napoleonic Total War I personally hope they avoid the gunpowder ages altogether. I'd rather have the next one be set in ancient China or something.
I'm with you re: no guns mode. I've learned to use them in these games/x-paks, but I still don't like them.

Since we're speculating here, I like the idea of shifting the action out of Europe to another continent altogether...Central & South America beckons with Aztec, Mayan & Inca civilizations - then 'The Euro Invasions' x-pak. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[frogbeastegg]

Well if you want the earliest possible TW look no further than Amoebic Pond slime: Total War and it's add-on Double Celled Creature Invasion http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

On a more serious note I would like a Classical Greece based Persian Invasion add-on for Rome. I would also like a Classical Roman Empire add-on featuring the empire from the death of Augustus until about 236AD. Unfortunately I can't think of an invasion to put in the title of that one.

For the next full Total War game I would love to see Ancient China. It would play a lot like Shogun, only on a far larger scale. Three Kingdoms: Total War would provide a different setting to most other historical strategy games because Koei is the only company that has done much with the period. I saw a suggested rundown of units and sides somewhere on the official forums. The person came up with over 100 different types of infantry and about 20 different playable factions, so it wouldn't be a step backwards in terms of scale.

If Ancient China doesn't float your boat, how about the Nile? Or more specifically Ancient Egypt: Total War. Over 3,000 years of history, a whole pyramid full of technical advances for you to build, armies that would fit the Total War style i.e. chariots, archers etc, large numbers of other civilisations to play such as the Nubians, the Assyrians, the Hittites and the Mycenaean Greeks, varied religions and famous figures like Ramesses the Great and Hapshetsut. There is also the possibility of numerous smaller, side campaigns based around smaller events like the battle of Kuadesh, the invasion of the Sea People, the end of the Egyptian Empire and many more. The Egyptians were in contact with a large area of the world so the map would be similar in scale to the one in MTW and RTW. Again this would be distinctive and stand out in the market as there are so few Ancient Egyptian based games, I can only think of Pharaoh which is very different to Total War.

I'm not really interested in the gunpowder-based eras; Ancient history is much more my kind of thing. Although if they did do a Napoleonic Total War I would probably still buy and enjoy it. However for me Rome is the biggy, I've been waiting 10 years for a game like this. To quote Asterix's friend Obelix Romans Romans Oh goody goody goody, lots and lots of Romans and they're all mine http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Rocket_Boy]

How about American High school Total War.
The Jocks have the advantage in the Early period until the geeks discover gunpowder......

(and I'll stop right there)

[MF_Ivan]

Quote[/b] (Rocket_Boy @ July 22 2003,09:40)]How about American High school Total War.
The Jocks have the advantage in the Early period until the geeks discover gunpowder......

(and I'll stop right there)
Good point. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If you would remember the .ORG poll for the different series and sets, the wish for a Napoleonic was in the top 3 voted for.

If you think realistically then the next in the series should be the Napoleonics, there are several reasons leading to this conclusion.

There is already an established base of gamers/grognards/players who are intersted, no are desperately waiting for such an event.

There is no decent 3d game as of YET that has its setting in the napoleonic period.

As far as other ideas for the next in series listed above are (im sorry if you get offended http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif) completely ridiculous. Why? The Total War series thrives on its replayability value. How replayable would be the constant Invasion of the Huns vs Rome, which is why the Mongol Invasions was a bad idea. The correct recipe is a scope that consists of not too big a view of the world but not too narrow of view either.

It takes a lot of thought, thats why things off the top of your head dont work as well.

[General Malaise]

Quote[/b] (Duraz_asks @ July 22 2003,02:53)]for one huns didnt really invade they showed up when rome was on the edge of breaking and secondly why is everyone obsessed with nepolianic get over it plz start thinking of more creative like a greek tw or a Mongol tw sure theyve been in both stw and mtw but have we had the pleasure of taking over asia with them... also why not a indian tw (american indians) or a world tw in certain time periods and have 100s of civs or how ever many fit time period
Yeah, the huns didn't technically invade but barbarians seem to be the theme for expansion packs. I don't think Native Americans would work with this type of game, but I agree with you about ancient greece. That would be much better than the industrial age...

[DemonArchangel]

LOL that just gave me an idea

[TheSilverKnight]

I have some ideas for a cool Total War game.

1. Revolution: Total War (1558-1781 (turns by month))
2. Napoleon: Total War (1780-1827, but each turn is a day)
3. World War: Total War (1900-1945, turns go by days)
4. The Classical Age: Total War (1273 B.C.-440 B.C. turns go by years).

Well? What do you think? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Oaty]

Now hears 1 that I'm just so surprised noone has mentioned. Farm Animals Total War but what would the expansion be Hedonist Invasion, Wild Animal Invasion, Space Alien Invasion ..................................
or the ultimate Flaming Pig Invasion

Although I'd like to see The America's Total War it is not next on my list. I'm hoping for China Total War and then the expansion could be Japanese invasion ( : since they did have a landing force in Korea

[oblivious maximus]

personally, if another one is made after Rome.. im afraid it head towards gunpowder.


I truly believe a perfect setting for this game and would continue the pattern of time and invasion would be China during the Warring States Period. Han,Zhao,Yan,Wei,Chu,Qi and Qin.Bask in the glory for uniting China only to be attacked by hundreds of thousand Xiong Nu, head hunting invaders from Central Asia.
Maybe even eventually control trade on the SiLk Road.

[Pdifolco]

Seriously Ancient Greek or Chinese settings would be the one I'd be most interested in.
BTW I saw at the Dungeon IIRC that some nice guys were doing a Greek MTW mod, with cool campaign map and Hoplite battle screenshots http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , hope they'll finish it soon

[lancer63]

Certainly Greek and Chinese periods have their appeal, but I'm also partial for Renaissance TW. The last age of cold steel domination is fascinating too.

[alkalineruxpin]

Something people have to remember about the rifle expansions and such is that they cannot be an accurate representation of what a real Napoleon: Total War and such game would really be like.

The game is using medieval tactics with a very much so NOT medieval weapon. I'm not saying that guns weren't used, I don't want to mislead you.

The military tactics of the Colonial Period to the Revolution Period to the Industrial Era each went through their own metamorphosis, each time being refined to take into account new military technologies and political situations.

To say that a Napoleon Total War game would not be enjoyable because of experiences with the guns that come with Medieval or the fantastic work that The Lords and others have done would be shortsighted.

In addition, what other period of history is unique enough to warrant it's own Total War game?

Early Greek civilization can be introduced through an expansion to Rome, as can most of Ancient Western History.

Shogun can be expanded to incorporate earlier Eastern History.

The next obvious step is the age of muskets, rifles, and cannon. Where Cavalry lost their power, regained it, and lost it again.

As an avid student of military history and tactics, I would merely like to communicate with you how exciting the thought of a Total War game involving muskets and rifles is to me, as the tactics used in this era could possibly make a game as challenging and rewarding as any other game we could expect from CA, but unlike other choices, still having the uniqueness of feel that we've also come to demand.

[karmastray]

As an American, I would really love to see a New World Total War. It would be great to kick the hell out of the conquistadors (like what should have happened in the first place, lousy fanatical freaks) with an army of Aztec warriors -- their paddle shaped sword thingy was pretty cool. Next on my list would be the China age of warring states, that would be pretty damn cool too, but only if they include kung-fu in there and all those great Chinese sages of the time Confucious, Master Li etc etc.

[BDC]

I don't think most the American people used the sort of regiments you get in TW games though so would make for a very different type of battle.

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (BDC @ July 29 2003,19:24)]I don't think most the American people used the sort of regiments you get in TW games though so would make for a very different type of battle.
I don't know if they run out of ideas maybe Native American Total War could be tried with all the different tribes. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[killemall54]

Renaissance Total War.1453 to 1650+. Continues MTW. Prince Eugene Vs. The Ottoman Empire. Marlboro and Eugene. War of Roses sub expansion pack. Thirty years war sub expansion pack 1681-1648.

This would lead into the paradoxical and ironic Age of Enlightenment Total War where there was no total war but would cover 1650 to 1793. Expansion packs would be 7 years war, French Revolution play as Louis XVI, Marat, St. Just Robespierre