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jLan
08-01-2003, 01:16
I'm just wondering which of the factions have the best GA campaigns? I've just played one with Hungary and umm... nothing but homelands and conquest has shown up :-(

HRE seems pretty interesting... edged towards both trade and conquest of the Russians... French or English with crusades might be fun.. Russians look okay, but rather defensive. Anyway, do you have any tips for which factions have different things than the regular conquest and homelands? It really makes it no different than a regular "conquer all" campaign..

RisingSun
08-01-2003, 02:25
Italians have a few crusade goals.

Westland
08-01-2003, 12:06
The HRE ga's are a real challenge. One of your goals is to restore the holy roman empire, which means you have to conquer Rome. So you have to start a war against the Papacy and you will get excummunicated. And if you destroy the Papacy they will come back in full force again and again.
The French goal to build a citadel in Tripoli is also a big challenge.

Mount Suribachi
08-01-2003, 12:35
Quote[/b] (Westland @ Aug. 01 2003,12:06)]The French goal to build a citadel in Tripoli is also a big challenge.
Thats as interesting challenge, but as an Englishman I refuse to ever play as the French http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Westland
08-01-2003, 19:59
Really. Is this because it´s an old enemy? Is so, you also can´t play as the Germans, Italians, Spanish/Aragonese, Turks ,Danes ,Russians and Egyptians. Not much left for you this way. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mechstra
08-01-2003, 20:17
The English one is quite good, but a lot of the goals are already completed by the time they appear... Like 'Subdue Scotland' around 1300. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Leet Eriksson
08-01-2003, 20:36
yep Germans,French and English have interesting stuff.not much hungarian and eastern europe.

muslims have a few interestin goals(al hambra and al azhar,also a few jihad objectives and such etc etc),but catholics the most.

Mount Suribachi
08-02-2003, 07:55
Quote[/b] (Westland @ Aug. 01 2003,19:59)]Really. Is this because it´s an old enemy? Is so, you also can´t play as the Germans, Italians, Spanish/Aragonese, Turks ,Danes ,Russians and Egyptians. Not much left for you this way. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Yeah, we've fought just about every country in the world at some point or other, but with the French its different http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Germany and Argentina come second, but thats more on the Football field http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I've read several personal accounts by British soldiers that mention taking German prisoners who say "Why are we fighting each other? We both know our natural enemy is the French" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mechstra
08-02-2003, 09:38
I think, overall, that the French goals are the most interesting. They have the most special goals.

Hamburglar
08-09-2003, 08:07
Kind of off topic but...

Mount Suribachi:

My grandfather was in the German army in WWII. Spent most of his time on the Eastern Front but eventually his transferred to the Western Front and surrendered to the Western Allies.

He was in a French POW camp but there were always a lot of English soldiers around. He said they'd always smuggle in extra food and all sorts of contraband to him and the other Germans. The French guards would always get in trouble for this.

When asked why, one of the English said "It's not because we like you lads all that much - it's just because we want them to look like fools"

Dogmeat
08-09-2003, 11:25
Bit OT, but what the hell.... heh i suppose its just natural completely unreasonable instinctive loathing towards our countrys, but i can't help it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I feel the same way, i feel dirty playing as the French, I've even intentionally sent Joan of Arc to her death a few times in the French historical campaign (though it was probably the god awful film that was 'the messenger' that made me resort to that action, but don't get me started on that). And if i'm playing as another faction I always send some troops to help out my English allies if it looks like they are losing the war. No offense to any French members, i even have a couple of French friends and have no hard feelings towards them, but when it comes to this medieval period, its just my natural instinct to utterly destroy them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

anyway on topic. I find the catholic factions to be more interesting in general terms of GA. Gotta thank the good old crusades for that http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Brutal DLX
08-10-2003, 22:58
I liked the messenger. Heh. You just have to understand the French way of thinking http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Anyway, I agree, the big catholic factions do have the most GA goals, so you should select them if you don't want to conquer all the time.
Besides, even with the smaller factions you don't need to conquer the whole map to win. You get much more points for your homelands and for each conquered province than the bigger countries.
IIRC, the most boring GA campaign I played was as the Byzantine Empire. There was really nothing to do after the first 100 years or so, and I spent the rest counting the years and doing a little military intervention from time to time.

The_Emperor
08-11-2003, 15:10
When I saw it, I liked The Messenger's battles. But I was pissed off that after Braveheart yet another film portrayed us as the ultimate bad guys... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Still at least we got the satisfaction of watching her burn http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

But no I can never play as the French, because it means allowing French conquest of the British Isles (No it cannot happen)

DrHaphazard
08-11-2003, 15:48
Well, maybe yall shouldn't have been oppresive bastards Emperor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif Haha I hate the french too, and I'm only a silly American.

In any case the real reason i'm on this thread is to wonder why CA didn't do more with its GA option. Is there perhaps a way to add GA's? I enjoy using the GA option, but it doesn't really change the way i play. I guess there's no real incentive to launch a crusade into the Holy Land if i can gain more wealth and prestige by destroying the French.

I wonder if the GA option will be used in RTW. Was it included in STW?

Hurin_Rules
08-11-2003, 18:52
Another cool GA I got in the HRE campaign was suppressing the Hussites in Bohemia. Now, by this time I had conquered most of Europe, so all it really took was 5 bishops preaching there. But it was pretty cool. Should have also had an armed rebellion there I think.

Mount Suribachi
08-11-2003, 19:07
When the patch comes out the first thing I'm gunna do is start a campaign as the HRE early/expert, GA.

Swabian Swordsmen in Early, Gothic units in late, some cool GAs...they're the faction for me

The_Emperor
08-11-2003, 19:40
Quote[/b] (DrHaphazard @ Aug. 11 2003,15:48)]Well, maybe yall shouldn't have been oppresive bastards Emperor :wacko
Hey cmon man... They were asking for it at the time The Hundred years war was only us getting our own back for the Norman Conquest (Those Scots always were a problem as well) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

But hey it was an era of stunning brutality by everyone... I don't see why we should be singled out.

Anyways... getting back on topic, The French do have some of the best GA's, even if I don't play them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif