Do you want a forum dedicated to the 100 years war

[ShadesWolf]

OK here is the question, if I was to host a few sections dedicated to the 100 years war on my oner order of omissions forums would you be interested enough to use it ?

The OOOO forum is currently on Ezboard.

[Parmenio]

I'd be more interested in seeing a mod dedicated to the 100 Years War, including fieldworks such as ditchs, pot holes and emplaced stakes for English archer armies.

Apologies if this is off topic.

[Brother Derfel]

If there isn;t a forum out there already dealing with the 100 years war then go ahead and make one. If there is, then there ain't much point.


And I agree with Parmenio a 100years war mod would be sweet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[ShadesWolf]

If anybody is willing to look at creating a 100 years war mod, then that would be really nice. I could help with a few map modification, like adding stakes in the group, as I have done with th Agincourt map (I also turned the map around as it was the wrong way)

I currently do not have time to create a new campaign mod, but if anybody would like to give it a go, then I did do a little work on a campaign map a while ago.

http://www.shadesmtw.com/oooo/map1340winter.gif

[ShadesWolf]

As for the forum, I will leave this thread open a little longer to see if I get any more replys before I make my decission.

[Nowake]

An entire section for only one conflict? This seems like too much.

[ShadesWolf]

Hi pr Fire the 100 years war lasted from 1337 to 1453, and included battles such as Agincourt, Crecy, poitiers.

It involved other countries like aaragon, Castile, Scotland and saw the rise and fall on Burgundy.

So yes it is one conflict but a very long one.

[Nowake]

You forgot Flanders http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif. ShadesWolf, believe me when I tell you that I read alot about the 100 years war. It was long, but mostly futile. It lasted as long as the armagnacs managed to convince the majority of the french nobility that theirs was the right and most important more profitable cause (Jean D'Arc importance is exagerated, with all the influence she gained over people and military commanders).


But the most important argument is that, as with all medieval conflicts that took place in western Europe, the battles comprised armies of 10000-15000, the military thinking was 0 and all in all it was just a bloody pillage. So if this kind of section can be interesting for french and englishmen, the others who see these conflict more objectively will rapidly get bored.


This is, however, just my opinion, so best of luck in promoting your ideea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I don't think you can say the military thinking was zero because some of then best commanders and war captains came out of the 100 years war such as Bernard De Guesclin,Captel De Buch,John Hawkwood,Earl of Derby,The Black Prince,The Earl of Northampton,Reginald Cobham and Henry V to name but a few and the simple yet effective tactic of dismounted men in prepared positions with the devasting Archers as fire power they could not lose except with rashness(Bauge 1421)or with the introduction of cannon and small arms fire.

Although the Chevauchee was the favoured tactic in the first 2 stages of the war under mostly Edward III reign,it was not under Henry V which was a plan of slow,methodic conquest but a united France at peace with Burgundy by 1436 was too much for the over streched English forces

[Nowake]

Oh indeed, compare this with the mongol military thinking from the same time. I rest my case. A smart tactic doesn't mean profound military thinking, especially as they had no other options.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Don't you think you are being slightly obtuse? Are you simply dismissing tactics and planning of the 100 years war? I mean British archers were sought after as mercenaries across Europe due there skill and were partially responsible for victories in Spain and Portugal and used extensively by various Italian factions such as Florence during various wars of the 15th century.
After Crecy, it began the predominance of infantry and soon led to the decline of calvary with such determined and well trained foot such as the Swiss, Flemish etc
The tactic employed by the English was learnt painfully in Wales and Scotland due to lessons in warfare( Longbow, Well trained spearmen) and determined Guerilla warfare(which the Mongols knew well enough and could not seem to come to grips with there foes in Siam, Vietnam etc who retired to the deep mountains, which rendered the Mongol on horse relatively useless).
I'm am not dismissing the great Mongols in any way but i think the 100 years war was a time of gradual and important marks in warfare with the decrease in cavary dominace, Rise and fall of the warbow and the rise of cannon and firearms.
Thats it and if i sound like i'm being rude, i promise you i'm not but thats what is great about warfare, it allows for debate and thats what makes this forum great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[CBR]

Well with a forum like that it would be possible to kill some of the silly myths http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

CBR

[Wellington]

There IS a 100 Years War mod - but it's never been generally released.

I created this mod 6 months ago as an example for LMM4v2 but, due to problems with Org uploads/downloads LMM4v2 was never generally released.

This mod was sent to SoS (or LoS as he apparently now is known), together with LMM4v2, with a view to providing a balanced mod - but, unfortunately, nothing transpired and therefore it was never released.

So - what currently exists?

Basically a campagn map of France (with a little bit of England/Spain and a small part of what is now known as Germany). This campaign map covers less than a quarter of the original MTW 1.1 map area. The campaign has 3 Major factions -

- English (10 provinces)
- French (15 provinces)
- Burgundians (6 provinces)

and the Pope, who is 'isolated in Spain'. The campaign map also includes 5 sea regions. There are also 6 rebel provinces representing other Dukedoms in the vicinity at that stage of European History.

This mod currently exists - and if anyone wishes to resurrect it then let me know and I'll provide the necessities.

As I said it is NOT balanced. By this I mean that all new provinces just have 1 peasent and no existing buildings - so if anyone (who is into modding) wishes to further this mod by balancing the factions/provinces by virtue of changing some of the startpos parameters then let me know and I'll provide it via E-mail.

Welly

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Wellington that would be most welcome
My Email is sinclair670@hotmail.com Thanks
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[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ Sep. 12 2003,11:07)]Wellington that would be most welcome
My Email is sinclair670@hotmail.com Thanks
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BKB,

You have mail- about 800K - have fun

Welly

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Thanks man http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[ShadesWolf]

Could you send it to me also.

I would love to have a look at it.

ihusselbee@aol.com

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (ShadesWolf @ Sep. 13 2003,07:50)]Could you send it to me also.

I would love to have a look at it.

ihusselbee@aol.com
Hi SW,

Ok, but with one proviso. I don't mind you and BKB collaberating if you both wish to enhance it, but I certainly don't want 2 such mod's (different) floating around - if you know what I mean.

Expect mail.

Welly

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Wellington, the map looks great so far, and i might put Flanders and Brittany in to make it more chaotic. Many thanks ( I will get it on my computer next week, because i'm on the verge of finishing the Beta of my mod for tonight so its very hectic to say the least http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif).

ShadesWolf, i think Grell sent me Brittany and Flemish flags, so if you want them just let me know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ Sep. 13 2003,08:46)]Wellington, the map looks great so far, and i might put Flanders and Brittany in to make it more chaotic. Many thanks ( I will get it on my computer next week, because i'm on the verge of finishing the Beta of my mod for tonight so its very hectic to say the least http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif).

ShadesWolf, i think Grell sent me Brittany and Flemish flags, so if you want them just let me know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Hi BKB,

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I'm puzzled. Flanders and Brittany are in the map Did I send you the correct one.

I was quite pleased with this map and I only did it to really demonstrate the capabilities of LMM.

At present you only have LMM5_Tga. The next part of LMM5 (LMM5_Main) is the one that will allow you to create/change the provinces and create all the associated files I zipped with this map.

However, LMM5_Main will be a little while arriving - due to documentation http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

BTW: you will probably get an error message after "Cancelling" LMM5_Tga - don't worry about it. This is only a BETA version and I'll tidy that up when I upload it to the Org.

[Lord Of Storms]

Quote[/b] ]This mod was sent to SoS (or LoS as he apparently now is known), Cant figure why this is hard to understand ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Lord Of Storms or LOS see easy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (Lord Of Storms @ Sep. 13 2003,09:59)]
Quote[/b] ]This mod was sent to SoS (or LoS as he apparently now is known), Cant figure why this is hard to understand ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Lord Of Storms or LOS see easy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
It isn't hard to figure out. Whatever gave you that impression?

I did originally send this mod to "Sword of Storms". Since then you've changed your moniker, undoubtedly for good reason, to "Lord of Storms".

No confusion there.

[Lord Of Storms]

No Worries Wellington, after all a name is just a name, I have a question regarding those mods i.e. The 100 yrs war, Reconquitsa etc. do you have any objection to me working up the Reconquista Mod and eventually releasing it for the community? It is a shame to let those good maps go to waste, and I like that maps look in particular, LOS

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (Lord Of Storms @ Sep. 13 2003,10:13)]No Worries Wellington, after all a name is just a name, I have a question regarding those mods i.e. The 100 yrs war, Reconquitsa etc. do you have any objection to me working up the Reconquista Mod and eventually releasing it for the community? It is a shame to let those good maps go to waste, and I like that maps look in particular, LOS
I changed the Reconquista a bit (never liked the map from the web - the resolution was'nt good enough - and I could'nt find another good Spanish map on the map with sufficient resolution). The latest version is based on an expanded portion of the MTW 1.1 map - which looks ok.

Kominos is actually using satellite images for his maps - which do look pretty good.

Anyways, by all means do whatever you want with them. They were only provided as short campaign examples in order to illustrate how to use LMM.

Be my guest.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Sorry Wellington i didn't even check that start pos for it. I assumed just France, Burgundy and England. My foolish mistake http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ShadesWolf]

Yes please I would like those flags/shields.

Im having a little problem installing the file. Something to do with activeX. Will need to install some files. If I cant sort it, I will give u a shout......

The map of france looks excellent.

Im currently working on new units. ie Welshlongbowmen.

I will let u know i get on