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Rowan11088
08-03-2003, 22:27
I've been playing a new campaign as the Turkish on early, and at first I just found it hard, because you start off with very little and are dwarfed by the big, bad Byzantines right next to you. After a while, I was able to finish off the Egyptians when the Spanish pushed through most of North Africa, and basically handed me a poorly defended Egyptian Sultan to kill. Once I expanded north towards Novgorod a bit, killing only rebels, things started going smoothly. Recently though, I took Sweden via a bribe, and everything went to hell. I barely held on to the province between low loyalty and the backstabbing Danish, and beyond that the Spanish declared a Crusade against me, and they were my allies All my allies broke their alliances because they were allied to the Danish or the Spanish (except the Sicilians, the only loyal ones????http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif). So I'm in trouble. I start churning out armored Ghazis and Futuwwa, Saracens and Muwahid, Bedouins and Turcomans. So the Spanish attack with a modest army before their Crusade, using Order Foot, Spearmen, Royal Knights, Jinettes, and Militia Sergeants. I field my half-prepped army, which did not yet have some of the new recruits. I used a new type of defensive setup, leaving escape routes for my desert archers between my rows of saracens, placing bedouins in the very front, and ghazis beside and behind the saracens. I scared away the Jinettes with only arrows, and when the rest of the army came around, the Saracens tore through them while the Bedouins and some Armenian Heavy Cavalry flanked them and slaughtered the lighter infantry. I killed over 400, captured over 500, and lost 70. 70 And those were from the cheap Saracens, not my merc Italian Infantry or Ghulam Bodyguards. Turkish armies are just awesome, even without Janissaries, and they are flat-out unmatched in the desert.

Leet Eriksson
08-03-2003, 23:46
yeah when handled correctly the turkish army is tough.

jLan
08-03-2003, 23:47
Try attacking an all foot soldiers army with Sipahis and Turcoman horse only once. It's pretty challenging, but pretty fun if you pull it off right.. Just stay out of reach and pepper them with arrows http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Aelwyn
08-04-2003, 01:54
If I have a chance to, I like to fill almost half my army with Nizaris. 8 or so Nizaris, along with maybe 2 Desert Archers can inflict a huge amount of casualites before hand to hand fighting even begins. Then the Nizaris can take down a huge amount of men h2h. One of my favorite units in the game. Sometimes I'll target 1-2 units with all my archers, so when they engage, they run almost instantly because they are so depleted. This makes the rest of the army seem to waiver at the same time, making it nothing but a chasing game. Thats usually when I get the 'Butcher' vice.

Rowan11088
08-04-2003, 03:42
Nizaris are Egyptian only though, so I wouldn't know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I'll probably try the Egyptians at some point because of all their unique Mamluk units. I also want to try out the Byzantines because they're so different, but I feel like starting in the early period makes Byz too easy, and starting later means no VG. I also want to see if the Spanish are any good.

jLan
08-04-2003, 06:43
As stated in other thread, VG is inferior to Byz. infantry overall anyway http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif