Help! Byzantines making a comeback...

[Rowan11088]

Hey, I'm still playing my Turkish campaign, and I had just taken Trebizon and Atolia, and was doing well, when some Byz armies appeared almost out of nowhere (nowhere being from across the Black Sea), and started kicking my a$$ I repulsed them in Trebizon fairly easily, but they took Khazar from a weak general, and won in a nail-bitingly close battle in Atolia. The terrible thing was, their general was in an urban militia unit I had attacked with everything I had, on a gigantic hill, and was able to pull off an even 400 casualties on each side, but later found out that urban militia general had 7 stars, plus an extra one for skilled attacker virtue, and had a total of 7 valor No wonder he beat up my Armenian Cav. Plus he had a 9 valor Kata unit, which I actually almost destroyed by flanking with Saracens. But what do I do now? I can't beat these high level generals easily, and my best generals are tied up in Egypt against the spanish...plus my king and princes barely escaped the Atolia battle, and are now one person units.....argh I have the byzantines.

[jLan]

If you have any advanced castles (meaning castle, citadel or fortress) along your border with them, put a 1-20 man unit inside and withdraw the rest of the forces. Right click on the castle and see how long it will hold up. Hopefully it will say "this garrison will not fall without a direct assault" leave it for the Byzantines to attack. They will have to assault it, and most likely lose several hundred soldiers in the process http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Once the province is lost, move in and defeat them.

Alternatively, just kick their butts in war http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Rowan11088]

Unfortunately those 8 star generals are a problem http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
But another question, hopefully someone can answer this...do Janissary Heavy Infantry get +1 valor in Bulgaria? It doens't say so in the province description, but on the Berserk clan site it says that they do. Is it possible that bulgaria grants +1 valor to both bulgarian brigands and janissary heavy infantry? Or can I safely build my Grand Mosque in Georgia and use the +1 valor to Janissary archers?

[Oaty]

Well I had this problem with the Almahods and got tired of the tug of war between constanople and mideast region so all I did was weaken my forces by withdrawing my battlehardened troops to the northern desert and leaving some behind to put up a little bit of fight. Once the desert became the border between the byzantines and me I made an attack tempting to the A.I. by keeping a force half there size there. After 2 battles in the desert, The byzantines foolishly wasted over half of there elite units and was ready for the slaughter.

And this time the march to constanople came with ease. Unfortanately I was also fighting the byzantines in France, wich gives ya a little idea of how strong they were

[Oaty]

Forgot I wanted to mention something else as you had mentioned those Urban Militia going to town on your army. Nothing like having Arab infantry chasing routing Mongol Archers (forget there name) off the map, well once away from my main force had to do something with them so I parked them in the woods for safety and hoped I could get them back to my main line at some time in the battle, well the opportunity never came and was about to say goodbye to them as 300 mongol heavies came to flush them out. Had them in hold formation til they lost there charge bonus and then put them at engage at will. Had no idea what was about to happen but those heavies started falling like there was no tomorrow, they were going to town on them even though they were completely surrounded. they got close to bringing down 100 of them till they finally routed after taking 18 losses out of 60, 5 of them made it back home and 38 left prisoner. After holding out that long to let me bring on reinforcements and getting them in decent formation, I felt obliged to buy back my prisoners along with the 150 others. Plus the fact of Arab infantry having a base valour of 4 is a hard achievmant as they usually don't live long enough to see that day. The key factor that they were able to do this is that they were quite fresh fighting exhausted mongol heavies in the woods

[Rowan11088]

Anyone know the answer to the question I asked about Janissaries?

[jLan]

Pretty certain a province can only give bonus to one type of troop (the one listed on camp. map - which should also be the first of the two units in the unit file listing)

[Galestrum]

a province can give bonuses to multiple units, it will just state the one which is first read in the crus 11 file however