Generals Losing Vices

[Hamburglar]

People have been talking about having corrupt governors and ways to get rid of them. Some members have been saying that lowering taxes and firing the general with an emmissary will make him lose his bad habits. Is this true?


I was under the impression that once a Vice or Virtue is put on your general, it can't ever disappear. It can only change in a sense and only get more severe.

For example:
Alcoholic can turn to Severe Alcoholic, but Severe Alcoholic can never turn into Alcoholic.

Good Defender can turn to Expert Defender, but Expert Defender can never turn into Good Defender.

Am I right on this?

Basically I'm asking:

1. Can a Vice or Virtue ever completely dissapear?

2. Can a Vice or Virtue ever get less severe?


Because I have NEVER seen this happen but other people claim to see it. Just wondering whether I'm unlucky or they're smoking something.

[KukriKhan]

I've never seen a v&v 'diminish', only increase or stay the same. Hence the odd looking: Pious. Atheist. we sometimes see. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Hamburglar]

I do like finding those Atheist Popes with my inquisitors.



Other fun contradictions are Adulterous and Perversion.

[Prince Lom]

The weirdest one I had was a Prince who had -50% to Bribe Cost and +50% to Bribe Cost. Appropriately, he also became an Unhinged Loon later on in the game.

[Oaty]

Some vices and virtues can stay and some disapear.

Some good examples are good runners although hard to get rid of it can be done by winning a few battles and the general not rout. When you strip a title for a bad vice it depends what he was doing if he is an outlaw he will quit robbing people so income will go back up along with happiness in territory. Vices like alcaholic or bad/poor steward will never go away. Once an alcaholic always an alchaholic same with poor steward if you cant manage and tend to the farms properly stripping his title won't make him a better farmer.

You have to look at the vice and see if it something he is doing at his own free will or if he is just plain dumb ignoprant or drunk all the time.

Basically an emmisary has about a 50 percent chance of ridding him of his bad habits maybe even less than 50. But a spy or assassin has close to 90 percent and if you think about it if someone mad an attempt on your life and you knew you were corrupt what are the chances you will be a good boy