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The Blind King of Bohemia
08-21-2003, 16:15
I need some heros for the following new factions for the mod i'm working on:
Lithuania(late), Bulgaria(early,high), Armenia(early), Sweden(all periods), Cuman(early,high), Portugal(all periods), Navarre(early), Almoravids(early), Valencia(early), Serbia(late), Croatia(early,high), Genoa(all periods) and Norway(early).

A few attributes for the heros would be really helpful, so please help

Nowake
08-21-2003, 21:38
Just an advice, m8. After 1300, Wallachia was a state ruled by romanians (wallachians if you like). The cumans were long gone, before AD 1150. And if you need a romanian hero, you can have Basarab Tihomir, who severely defeated Carol Robert of Anjou in AD 1330 at Posada, destroing almost all the feudal hungarian army (I can come with details if you want). Another more than famous character was Mircea the Great (or the Old). He defeated Baiazid Ildirim at Rovine in 1394, and participated at the crusade that ended at Nicopole. His actions made him very important through all that period, he even held as hostage some turkish heir (Musa, whom he finally suported for the turkish throne after 1402, but this one was killed). He is mentioned as trying to stop the knights at Nicopole from charging, proposing for his romanian infantry to engage the battle first. His opinion was backed by the hungarian king, but they were not listened too.

The Blind King of Bohemia
08-21-2003, 22:00
The wallachians are in my late and thanks for the info but i wanted the cumans there because of 2 things:

1/ A bit more balance because i have added alot of orthodox factions and a new pagan one will give some spice in that area.

2/ The Cumans did do battle with the Mongols and its good to see them, novgorod and russia attempt to stop them in the game. Trust me it makes it chaotic

Lazul
08-22-2003, 08:26
Well due to the fact that Im a swede i know a few names but i dont know if you can call them heroes.

Birger Brosa - wasnt king and but in the early period i think
Birger Jarl - Rules sweden when sweden more or less emerged on the map of europa.
Magnus Ladulås - dont know the english name.

Well theese are historical names from those eras bt i dont know if you can call them heroes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Nowake
08-22-2003, 11:08
Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ Aug. 22 2003,00:00)]The wallachians are in my late and thanks for the info but i wanted the cumans there because of 2 things:

1/ A bit more balance because i have added alot of orthodox factions and a new pagan one will give some spice in that area.

2/ The Cumans did do battle with the Mongols and its good to see them, novgorod and russia attempt to stop them in the game. Trust me it makes it chaotic
So you have wallachians in the late? And how are you depicting them? Do you have a unit list?

The Blind King of Bohemia
08-22-2003, 12:41
I was wandering if you could help me out with some of the Wallachian units PR. I was thinking of giving them avar nobles as there royal unit but i'm not at all sure. If you can think of a unit suitable please give me a small description about them, i'll attempt to make them and i'll use them instead.
I had a great battle with them yesterday, allied to the Poles, defeating the Hungarians in a wicked battle.

Nowake
08-22-2003, 17:02
well, I think I can help you with that. Just give me a day. Today it's my birthday and I have little time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif So tommorow I'll give you a full description. Also, if you ever make a mod based on the romans, I have a unit tree for the dacians already made, and I could help you with all the other factions as well.


Btw, as for Serbia in late, you can have Stefan Lazarevici, as the succesor of Stefan Dusan. After Murad defeated them as Kossovopolje, the serbs elected him as king, as being the principal contender and having the turkish support. Even if he was a turkish vassal, his qualities as warrior and leader could not be denied. A very good general, he made a furious stand at Ankara in 1402. When the entire turk wing ran, he and his men hold the line against all Timur's forces. He could not save the day, but the muslim chronicars said: "and then it was the first time when pants were worn in a battle", depicting the bravery of the serbs. The truth is that in that battle the serbs were mostly nobles, elite, with heavy armour, so they could easily confront the light riders from Khorasan and Samir sent by Timur against them.

The Blind King of Bohemia
08-22-2003, 21:16
Please boys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif . I really need some more. This mod requires alot of work and some hero names could really finish this mod faster and i really think you guys will enjoy it.

khurjan
08-23-2003, 03:56
try these for baltic heros as these are baltic history sitee

http://www.baltische-ritterschaften.de/
http://depts.washington.edu/baltic/...livonianwar.htm
http://depts.washington.edu/baltic/papers/duchy.html
http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/eceurope/xlatvia.html

khurjan
08-23-2003, 04:00
http://www.friesian.com/perifran.htm#moravia

thjis is my secret site the gem in my eye for names of historical leaders there is enough here for all types of mods enoy it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

goscho
08-23-2003, 11:27
Hi

I could say something more about Bulgaria, because this is the land I am comming from.

You should have Bulgaria at high and late. In early Bulgaria is not an independent state.
Some list of kings:
tsar Assen I (1187-1196) - leader of the rebelion against byzantians, murdered from a byzantian

tsar Peter (1189-1197) - brother of Assen I, simular fate (they ruled together)

tsar Kaloyan (1197-1207) - little brother of Assen and Peter
-should be very good diplomat and general(at least 3-4 stars)
-accepted formal the leadership of the pope Innocent III in the bulgarian church. because of this becomes the title king from him and official acceptance of the bulgarian state
-won a major battle against the Latin knights(Adrianople 1205). The Latin emperor Baldwin the Flanderer is taken prisoner, where he died ten years later

Tsar Boril (1207-1218)
-possessed none of the diplomatic or military abilities of the three royal brothers

Tsat Ivan Assen II(1218-1241)
-defeated the troops of the Epims despotate
-after this battle Bulgaria takes the main teritory of the despotate and have in his hands the most of the despotate
-crushed the Tatar horder, attacking Bulgaria after the plundering of Hungary
-no doubt the most succesful tsar in the second bulgarian state
-extraordinary statecraft skills, also a very good general, but Kaloyan should be a better one

Kaloyan (1241-1246) and Mikhail Assen (1246-1256)
Constantine Tikh (1256-1277)

Ivailo(1277 -1280) - rebelion leader, maby peasant, good commander, managed to defeat the tatars
Georgi Terter(1280-1292)
Smilets (1292-1298) -impersonal and humiliating.

Svetoslav Terter (1300-1322)- diplomacy and trade
Ivan Alexander (1331-1371) - diplomat
Ivan Shishman (1371-1393) - the latest medieval bulgarian tsar

kataphraktoi
08-23-2003, 13:51
BULGARIA EARLY

KHAN KRUM, Defeated several byzantine armies and killed one Emperor and made his skull into a drinking cup.

TSAR SYMEON, Great Bulgar Tsar of the First Bulgarian Empire.

TSAR SAMUEL COMETUPOULI, Another Great Tsar, resisted the Byzantines effectively till BASIL II wore him and down and mauled him.

Early Bulgaria was a Khanate until they adopted certain Byzantine characteristics like the title of Tsar. At one stage encompassing much of modern Romania, Carpathia and Transylvania and the upper reaches of the Crimea.

kataphraktoi
08-23-2003, 13:55
Genoa (LATE)

Giustiniani Longo, one of the heroes who fought in the 1453 siege of COnstantinople, one of the more noticeable heroes of Genoa. Famously BRAVE

Serbia (high)
Stephen Nemanja, I;ll let the Serbs handle this one.

goscho
08-23-2003, 16:20
kataphraktoi
the bulgarian tzars you give are outside the game periode. The latest, tsar Samuel dyes in 1014 (or maby I missed something).
Correct me if I'm wrong.

And the word "Tsar" is exact translation of "Emperor".

The Blind King of Bohemia
08-23-2003, 17:36
Thanks guys. Accurate dates would be good though as I need to state when they emerge.

goscho
08-23-2003, 21:43
Bulgarians should emerge in 1187 (tsar Assen I)
Before this time there were some huge rebelions, but unsuccesful. The latest one was in 1084-1086.

The Blind King of Bohemia
08-23-2003, 22:01
Sorry I was talking about the heroes. I don't think its possible to make a faction emerge. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

TheSilverKnight
08-24-2003, 14:46
Quote[/b] (goscho @ Aug. 23 2003,10:20)]And the word "Tsar" is exact translation of "Emperor".
Actually, in Russian Language, Tsar is an exact translation of "Caesar". http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Just thought I'd point this out

TheSilverKnight
08-24-2003, 14:47
Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ Aug. 23 2003,16:01)]Sorry I was talking about the heroes. I don't think its possible to make a faction emerge. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
Well it is possible (Burgundians, late period, rebellion in Burgundy around 1400), but none of us know how to do it. Would be cool to have Bulgarians. I like Bulgarians http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Al Shama'ar
08-26-2003, 10:35
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Quote[/b] ]Portugal(all periods)

Kings:

Name Lived Reigned
D. Afonso I (1111-1185) (1128-1185) Great Warrior
D. Sancho I (1154-1211) (1185-1211)
D. Afonso II (1186-1223) (1211-1223)
D. Sancho II (1202-1248) (1223-1248)
D. Afonso III (1210-1279) (1248-1279)
D. Dinis (1261-1325) (1279-1325)
D. Afonso IV (1291-1357) (1325-1357)
D. Pedro I (1320-1367) (1357-1367)
D. Fernando (1345-1383) (1367-1383)
D. João I (1358-1433) (1383-1433)
D. Duarte (1391-1438) (1433-1438)
D. Afonso V (1432-1481) (1433-1438)
D. João II (1455-1495) (1438-1481)

Heroes / Warriors:

Under Afonso I

Soeiro Mendes de Sousa (1121-1137)
Gonçalo Mendes de Sousa (1154-1167)
Egas Moniz de Ribadouro (1108-1146)
Ermígio Moniz de Ribadouro (1128-1135)
Gonçalo Mendes da Maia, O Lidador (1075-1170)

Under D. João I:

Nuno Álvares Pereira (1360-1431) Great Warrior, Pious





BKB, I'll be updating this post, as i'm still looking for more details.

Do you want stats only for heroes or do u want them for kings too?

Al

Eastside Character
08-26-2003, 11:57
Lithuanian heroes:

Mindaugas 1238-1263

Treniota 1263-1264

Vaišalgas (Vaišelga) 1264-1267

Shvarno 1267-1269

Traidenis 1269-1281

Daumantas 1281-1285

Butigeidis 1285-1291

Butvydas (Pucuwer) 1291-1295

Vytenis 1295-1316

Gediminas 1316-1341

Jaunutis 1341-1345

Algirdas 1345-1377

Jogaila (Władysław Jagiełło) 1377-1381, 1382-1392

Kęstutis 1381-1382

Vytautas 1392-1430

Švitrigaila 1430-1432

Žygimantas Kęstutaitis 1432-1440

Casimir 1440-1492

Alexander 1492-1506

The Blind King of Bohemia
08-26-2003, 12:21
Thanks guys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Al Shama'ar, i'm not sure if the Portuguese were unified for the early period, do you have any idea who i could use as there leader? Also i just need the hero stats.

Al Shama'ar
08-26-2003, 12:48
Quote[/b] ]
Name Lived Reigned
D. Afonso I (1111-1185) (1128-1185) Great Warrior


As you can see from the reigning years (1128-1185) of Afonso I, the country was officially born in 1128, although there were some rebellions earlier.

And the King Afonso I, is the first great hero in our history as a country (or so we are told).

Just follow the list of kings, they span the timetable in MTW, representing the 1st and 2nd dinasties.

Hope this helps *** back to my search ***

Al

Eastside Character
08-26-2003, 17:04
I can help with lithuanian heroes more if such help is needed. The list I posted before should be enough for heroes names though.

kataphraktoi
08-27-2003, 15:18
Indeed Tsar is the translated equivalent of Caesar, but the title Tsar was considered by those who held it as the political equivalent to the title of Basileus and thus Emperor. By no means did any of the Tsars who held it, eg Bulgarians ever consider themselves lower than the Byzantine Emperors. On the Byzantine side, you;ll get an argument.