Next TW

[Marshal Murat]

Ok I decided to do this topic, to see what sort of new TW you think CA should make. These are such titles as Napoleonic, Spring and Autumn, etc. etc. I personally want Napoleonic TW

[shand994]

My thoughts are the same as they were the last time this topic was started

[Lehesu]

They need to go back to grass roots and redo Shogun and present it in its full splendor, as it should be.

[Shahed]

With a new 3d engine Shogun would be awesome.

My preferences:

-Colonial Total War (Americas, Africa, Far East, THE WORLD &#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Usual factions: Britain, France, Portugal, Ottomans, Mughals, Zulu etc etc...
-Napo Total War
-Ancient China (warring states)

[Shahed]

However I think Shogun 2 should be the last one to do in the TW series.

[Nowake]

or China TW, or, as chap1606 sais, Spring and Autumn TW

[Shahed]

Ancient China would be awesome. Added to my list.

[Marshal Murat]

Well if you wanted the Napoleonic TW then go to Lord Krazy's modding site, or whatever, he has mods for MTW and the VI. He's coming out with a new one, and he also has a cannon fix.

[Marshal Murat]

Well if you wanted the Napoleonic TW then go to Lord Krazy's modding site, or whatever, he has mods for MTW and the VI. He's coming out with a new one, and he also has a cannon fix. Also Shogun done over would be cool, the slashing of swords, the masterful naggi swinging archs around the nearby enemy.

[Shahed]

Although the Nap MOD is is REALLY great work, it is not the same as a new game, Murat.

[Marshal Murat]

OOOps http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif I must have pressed something wrong or such, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif sorry for anyone disgrundled by the accident. Please accept my apology

[Nowake]

np, Murat. accidents happen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Marshal Murat]

Thanks pr fire.
Also if we could get a Napoleonic Game then that would be fun. Then we could do S/A period. Also if you go to the CA website, they've got an hush hush TW coming out.

[lancer63]

Medieval II that's what I'd like to have. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Spino]

Yeah, I could definitely go for a TW set in China, something on the order of a Romance of the Three Kingdoms era sequel. On the other hand another ancient epic set earlier than RTW sounds good to me. Give us the chance to play the Assyrians, Egyptians, Hittittes, etc.

[Marshal Murat]

If earlier, then you can invade Egypt, capture Jerusalem, launch campaigns into Greece, Construct the Persian Empire, and fight on the seas with Phonecian thriemes.

[Shahed]

Whoa Sounds like a plan to me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwars.net/forum/images/smiles/893bud-thumb.gif http://www.totalwars.net/forum/images/smiles/893bud-thumb.gif http://www.totalwars.net/forum/images/smiles/893bud-thumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Z0eL]

I really think that a Colonial TW would be great, from about 1453 to ~1780(like the continuation of MTW).

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[Oaty]

I see there are quite a few people that want napoleonic totalwar. I remember quite a few years ago about 4 or 5, I think there was a game called waterloo. Now I'm pretty sure someone here has played that game as I was tempted to buy it but never did. So if you have played it tell me what you thought of it and how it compares to MTW

[ChErNoByl]

a colonial TW would be great. It fits with all the TW gameplay; formations and so on. Plus it'd be nice to play on the american map or something.

[Gregoshi]

Greeting and welcome Murat http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Many of the ideas presented here sound good. A re-do of STW would be grand.

oaty, would that Waterloo game be the one built on the Sid Meiers Gettysburg game engine?

[Axelthorpe]

The Colonial TW sounds great, a continuation on Medieval, from 16th Century until late 18th Century. Then move on from there to Napoleonic in the sequel or add-on.
Sweet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[tuopaolo]

Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ Aug. 21 2003,19:50)]They need to go back to grass roots and redo Shogun and present it in its full splendor, as it should be.
I think they should also redo Medieval http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Marshal Murat]

I've played Waterloo, and the new Austerlitz, and it's sort of cool, but it doesn't have a large campaign map. Also if we do a colonial, the Swedish would be awsome, and the French.

[Praetorian]

Why not a The World: Total War

from 12000 bc till 8000 AD http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Praetorian]

Oops. better make that 2050 ad :P

[iguanadate]

I would say, update good old shoggie with new features, new maps. Even maybe put in a possibility to use your own crest (own design i mean). Makes multiplayer even more better. And the option to use the rebel clans and give them your own clan name and your own province.

[Marshal Murat]

Sort of like RON, but I think not. Also in colonial TW we could have an expansion called British Empire, and you can delegate the colonization of Africa, China, India, and the other places on earth.

[iguanadate]

Actually, i think it isn't smart to create new total war games. Don't get me wrong, but when there are more games of total war the multiplayer rooms get even more empty. I like medieval, but prefer shogun. But when medieval came, we all saw what happened to shogun. Many good clans dissappeared to medieval. Others stayed in shogun. When Rome comes, the medieval and shogun rooms will even be more empty. I even heard rumors of people who were fighting over what was best, medieval or shogun. I think it is better that it stops at RTW and that they start making upgrades for existing games.

[Marshal Murat]

Whats the point of haveing a clan of shogun if a new game comes out, I mean, you can't change just stop any future development, we always want something new or more revolutionary, and its games, you don't play just one game, you want to play thousands of different ones. Also if RTW stays around for a while, you get bored with it and the multiplayers will get empty for another amazing game. We need change, we need a new game.

[Quid]

...hmmmm...I reckon we should just wait and see 'cause I am sure CA will come out with something even more amazing than Rome...although I am not sure how that is supposed to work...anyway, whether it'd be Napoleonic Wars, China or any other (but please not a re-do of any existing ones), we can be sure it+s going to be great

Am biting my nails to see RTW released...I think I will be down to my toes by the time it's out.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif. Good things take time, I suppose...

Later
Quid

[Balamir]

definitely shogun II or the ottoman wars. The richest 2 cultures on earth in my very opinion.

PS: it was me who last started this thread-1 month or so ago, but no worries you can keep the topic http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Auxilia]

Renaissance TW would do it for me. Start at the end of the period covered by MTW, and end it about 1700.

Lots of great units - Spanish sword and Buckler men, German Reiters, German Landsknechts and so on; plenty of historical conflicts (take yer pick), and a nice transition in military technology (decline of the pike in favour of the bayonet, the improvement in gunpowder weapons). It would HAVE to have naval battles

Then do an add on for exploration of the New World, Africa and the far east - a foil for the (going by the reviews) less than perfect American Conquest...

[Cannibal]

For me it would have to be ancients, I think post gunpowder epochs up to the modern times have been done to death.

Perhaps Alexander the Greats' campaigns?

[Knight_Yellow]

either

a big expansion for rome where you have to keep the empire from falling or likewise help destroy it.

or shogun 2.

[Marshal Murat]

After RTW they would most likely do the Byzantine expansions, Barbarian Invasion. Then we could do Renassiance, or the 1400-1600. Then you could have the War of Spainsh Succesion, Seven years war and such. Then Revolution. Do Napoleon. Then you can do remakes of Shogun, and MTW, or do new ones

[Cebei]

Hello people I am a new addition to this great forum Can learn much from here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

I actually second the Ottoman Wars idea. Formation of the empire (wars between Osman I and anatolian warchieftains) or Road to Constantinople would be awesome (but they can be expansions of MTW). But I guess no one would be much interested with that. A more universal era would be better such as an older time.. Hellenic Greek or quest of Alexander the Great or Mesapotamian civilisations OR a more utopic idea perhaps but Lord of the Rİngs can create a frenzy in many TW fans.

Still, I would love MTW much more than I love STW (because medieval europe is a much universal setting than Japanese war clans) and I would buy a new computer (like I will do for RTW) for MTW2 and I would want real detail for that...perhaps 5cds?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

By the way what config will RTW require?

[Drucius]

Hello Cebei http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

The word from CA so far appears to indicate that if your current setup can handle MTW then it will be able to run RTW. It's something to do with the use of 3d models rather than sprites, making more use of your graphics card instead of your CPU.

[Divine Wind]

Id love to see an Ancient China Total War as Seljuk mentioned. The huge epic battles between the rival clans would be almost shogun like, and a welcome addition to the total war series. An Aztec or Inca Total War style would really grab my interest too.

[Auxilia]

Quote[/b] (Cannibal @ Aug. 28 2003,16:21)]I think post gunpowder epochs up to the modern times have been done to death.
Oh I agree - which is why I would stop it at around 1700. By this time, european armies had all but lost whatever national peculiarities they once had, with the only difference between them being uniforms, and the speed with which new technology was adopted (Sweden for example kept the pike for some time).

[Marshal Murat]

Aztec would be cool, you have like Quezaquatlz warriors, in huge battles. I think we should do colonial to the Napoleonic period, when Napoleon was killed. Many nations still had peculiar parts to them, like the Green Jackets, Young Guard, and others.

[Getanaxe]

I really like the Ancient China, Napoleon, and Shogun II ideas (Never played Shogun, but I love the time period). I also would love to see an ancient Greece total war. Basically the major City States and nearby invading empires, pre-Rome and not when Alexander invaded. Perhaps as an expansion to R:TW? Don't really know much about R:TW so perhaps it won't work. Also a total war of the areas Alexander conquered. Egypt, eastern Med, middle east, all the way to India. Then we could have Alexanders forces be the Golden Horde of the game.

[Marshal Murat]

Shouldn't Philip the Great be the Golden Hordes of sorts. The Greece city states is a good idea, have the Persian Immortals, Athenian Thriemes, Spartan Hoplites.

[Queen Daenerys I Targaryen]

I would like to see something from Elizabeth I to the Battle of Waterloo. That would make a great Total War.

[Marshal Murat]

I'm a little rusty with English Monarchy relationships, such as rulers so could you give me a rough date for the years.

[Queen Daenerys I Targaryen]

From 1530 to about 1815.

[Marshal Murat]

How about the 1700 to 1820. This would encompass most of the largest battles of the day (most likely) also some of the geniuses of military warfare.

[bighairyman]

i think a china total war would be great, but it should also add the mongols, koreans, vietnam people, japanese, the persian empire and some nomads to add the diversity.

[Marshal Murat]

What time period. Also the nearby tribes were Thai speaking, also the Persians never i believe had contact with the chinese.

[|OCS|Virus]

I was thinking more like a world wide total war that includes the whole world, time fram would be from 400bc-1500 ad. There is also some historical proof that people from south america had DIRECT contact with the Egyptians, through trade at the canary islands. and other tribes might have as well. So you would have to strech that a little so that all the factions could sail. I think that this would be the coolest mod ever.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Shogun II would be best although China could be interesting to.

[bighairyman]

well i think if there is gonna be a china total war. it should have 3 time peroids just like shougun and medieval.

i think the first should be like the anceint times, 1,000-600B.C. i think at this time, it's almost all city-states. add a little nomads, and some uncivilized people. like cavemen,

the next period should be 600-200B.C. i know the persians never had contact w/ the chinese. but total war is not 100% historric acurtcute. so it would be 2 chinese empires, the persian empire, mongols, koreans Thai, the vietnam people. and then we could have like the mongols in medieval. we could have the alexander greek invasion of the persians.

the final period shold be 200- 500 A.D. now there should be 1 huge chinese empire. the greek empire would be conquered by the invading romans. there should also be the japanese( maybe 3 factions), 2 koreans, some kind of united rebel faction living in now eastern russia. vietnam should be gone, conquered by the chinese. but the Thais will still be there. and somewhere near 400A.D. the romans will be invaded by the arabs.

[gaelic cowboy]

Probally go for some kind of american total war i bet they have been slowly moving across the continents from asia.
First shogun tw then mongol inv exp pack then Medieval tw then the viking inv exp pack. With Rome coming up they will probally do another exp pack to that maybe finish the imperial period of rome to the fall in the west.
After that it's either africa or america to get some origanality. Napleonic sound's cool but i bet they surprise us. If someone had said one of my most played games would be about feudal japan I would have thought fps or rpg not stragety full mark to ca on that one

[Dhepee]

A starting point for me is my first PC strat game, the Age of Rifles. (Anybody remember it) Age of Rifles was a classic that spanned all of the 19th Century. Let TW do the same.
-Begin in the late 17th or 18th Century with the ascendency of the smoothbore flintlock musket. Start around the Duke of Marlboro, move on towards Freddie the Great (I think that chron works)
-As time progresses let better trained soldiers have a greater ability to maneuver on the field, like the armies of Napoleon and Wellington and better weapons, gribeuval cannons, etc.
-Also make manpower a resource and use a mix of conscription and recruitment with the attendant effects on morale.
-Show the rise of defensive tactics with the introduction of the rifled barrel, the decline of cavalry. Let the American faction have their civil war.
-The 19th Century also incorporates some of the most interesting political and economic changes in history, socialism, the rise of the middle class, the rise of the working class, the industrial revolution, etc. This will make the campaign map very interesting. Of course for such a short number of years there will have to be enough turns to make it interesting.
-Introduce new levels of transportation and communication and use the map strategically, as opposed to just dropping into a province. Also, make the time/distance ratio in movement more realistic.
-Let the game end with the First World War, essentially Napoleonic maneuver tactics tactics meet the recoil absorbing cannon and the machine gun. The end of an era.

[Marshal Murat]

I think we should do NTW, then we could have an expansion called Spanish Armada and have the Marlbourough age.