Valour of Bishops

[tuopaolo]

I've never witnessed the Valour of my Bishops going up. How is it supposed to go up? All my Bishops are zero valour http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif And does the Valour of Bishops do anything besides making them harder to kill?

When playing the English on GA, I once had Bishop with a Valor of +3 seemingly for no reason. Then I noticed the name was Thomas Beckett (Or some such famous Bishop of English History). I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I think the higher Valor rating made his preaching more effective. The umber of Catholics in the province he was in (Tripoli I believe) rose to over 70% and stayed there for a long time.

[Hoplite]

When a bishop succesfully negotiates a treaty with a foreign power, that is, you propose a cease-fire or an alliance and it is accepted, he gains experience in the same manner an assassin gains experience by killing people. Your diplomatic proposals are more likely to be accepted if they are proposed by high-valour agents.

[rolin]

Thomas Becket was really a famous man in english history. Here is a interesting link with a interesting story about this. http://www.ibiscom.com/becket.htm

He is one of the rare heroes in the game, which is not a general. Another english heroe in the game is Guy of Gisborne he is a assassin which 5 stars when he starts, a really useful unit.

You can train bishops by negotating a threaty whith an enemy king.

[Mount Suribachi]

Thomas Beckett is indeed one of the most intresting characters in English history.

Bishops also reduce the effect of inquisitors in your provinces when they attempt to burn your generals as well as the diplomatic & religion thing. I churn bishops out by the bucketload, 1 in every province. In mine they are a revolt lowering anti-inquisitor, the rest I use basically so I can see the map And they are very rarely assassinated, unlike emissaries.

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Aug. 28 2003,19:11)]Bishops also reduce the effect of inquisitors in your provinces when they attempt to burn your generals as well as the diplomatic & religion thing. I churn bishops out by the bucketload, 1 in every province. In mine they are a revolt lowering anti-inquisitor, the rest I use basically so I can see the map And they are very rarely assassinated, unlike emissaries.
yep inf act the only thing they can't do that Emissaries can is request a princess to marry into your faction You'd have thought they would be able to given how they would be, 'performing the ceremony' anyway http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[tuopaolo]

Technically there are a couple other things that only an emissary can do:

Only an emissary can bribe an army.

Only an emissary can offer a cease-fire/alliance by meeting up with a faction's emissary (click and drag your emissary onto the other faction's emissary)

[Old Bald Guy]

Emissaries can also strip titles. Handy.

[BDC]

Quote[/b] (Old Bald Guy @ Aug. 29 2003,08:58)]Emissaries can also strip titles. Handy.
So can assasins and inquisitors. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (BDC @ Aug. 29 2003,07:11)]
Quote[/b] (Old Bald Guy @ Aug. 29 2003,08:58)]Emissaries can also strip titles. Handy.
So can assasins and inquisitors. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
lol....

[Degtyarev14.5]

I am quite certain that a bishop will also gain experience for blocking an inquisitor's attempt to barbeque a general. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

All the same, some confirmation on this would be handy.

A.

[Si GeeNa]

Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?

Did any of u guys catch the Blackadder series where Edmund was anointed as the Priest of Canterbury? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif He almost suffered the same fate as Thomas A' Beckett. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Oh well, the slip with the game is that he supposedly dies in an event... but the bishop piece still remain.

[Miltiades]

Quote[/b] (Si GeeNa @ Sep. 01 2003,03:33)]
Did any of u guys catch the Blackadder series where Edmund was anointed as the Priest of Canterbury? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif He almost suffered the same fate as Thomas A' Beckett. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Ah Blackadder... Television entertainment at its finest


Quote[/b] ]Oh well, the slip with the game is that he supposedly dies in an event... but the bishop piece still remain.


I noticed that too, funny how a dead man makes such a good preacher. Obviously the power of faith in action http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[tuopaolo]

Quote[/b] (troubadour27 @ Aug. 27 2003,15:33)]When playing the English on GA, I once had Bishop with a Valor of +3 seemingly for no reason. Then I noticed the name was Thomas Beckett (Or some such famous Bishop of English History). I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I think the higher Valor rating made his preaching more effective. The umber of Catholics in the province he was in (Tripoli I believe) rose to over 70% and stayed there for a long time.
I think you're right. I'm playing as the Aragonese right now and i have two 5-valour bishops and they are very effective in converting the Moslems. They don't seem to be much more effective in getting alliances though.