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Duke John
09-08-2003, 23:56
Hey all,

To divide the historical fans from the 3D-fanatics I have created the first BIF of a serie centered around the wars in ancient Greece. The first unit is the Hoplite:
http://chronicles.metw.net/hellinic/screenshot_hoplite1.jpg
http://chronicles.metw.net/hellinic/screenshot_hoplite2.jpg

I was planning to do some more hoplites, a range of skirmishers (archers, peltast and slingers), Persian cavalry and Macedonian infantry/cavalry.
I know this isn't about R:TW but since here come all the ancient fans I thought it was reason enough to post it here. So all the historical fans don't have to wait for summer 2004 to play in the ancient world... the 3D fans do and that was my point http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Cheers, Duke John

Spino
09-09-2003, 01:20
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NICE job Duke, VERY nice job...

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Stormer
09-09-2003, 10:56
looking very good, Maybe some Trojans http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Kraxis
09-09-2003, 17:57
They certainly look great

CBR
09-09-2003, 19:59
Oh yes very good job there

How many units are you planning to make?

CBR

Vanya
09-09-2003, 23:34
GAH

Vanya suggest maker add Hops units. Vanya sez... youz already have Hops Lite, so now it would only be proper for completeness' sake to have the full-bodied Hops to go along with it.

The discerning captain will enjoy the choice. (Especially since yaz be talking about doing Greek...) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

GAH

khurjan
09-10-2003, 09:40
awesome work there

'' faints

nice one bro http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Duke John
09-10-2003, 10:50
Thanks for the compliments

I was planning to do a greek skirmisher unit (javelineer, archer, slinger), an armoured Hoplite, a Pike "Hoplite", Macedonian Pike and Cavalry, and finally Persian Archers and Cavarly. This will give a small selection but will let you recreate some ancient battles. Who needs R:TW? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

If you want to stay updated on future releases then check out Duke John's Tavern (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=10725;st=0;&#entry153725). I will post there a link for a Ancient Units pack. I've started thinking with Komninos about a possible mod about Greece, Macedonia and Minor Asia.

And the Spartan Hoplite is also completed, I've fiddled a bit with formation spacing, and the result is that the Spartans fight in a tight perfectly ordered fashion. Just compare them to the normal Hoplites to see the difference:
http://chronicles.metw.net/hellinic/screenshot_spartan_hoplite1.jpg
http://chronicles.metw.net/hellinic/screenshot_battle3.jpg
http://chronicles.metw.net/hellinic/screenshot_battle1.jpg
http://chronicles.metw.net/hellinic/screenshot_battle2.jpg

Cheers, Duke John

desdichado
09-11-2003, 07:42
very cool. they look better than standard mtw warrior sprites

Alrowan
09-11-2003, 08:06
this is looking nice, some other units that you might like to add, persians, these include the 10,000 immortals, horse archer and such, all lightly armoured. And not to forget macedonian pikes, longer than hoplites spear, lighlty armoured, and Macedonian cavalry, used to exploit the breaking units

Kraxis
09-11-2003, 13:16
And suddenly Kraxis couldn't see the pictures.

Duke John
09-11-2003, 15:02
Yep, the server is down. Too bad because I wanted to show some screenshots of Peltasts and Greek Archers. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Now I have finished 4 units and the battles are certainly different from normal Total War. You have solid blocks of Hoplites and the 2 Skirmishing units are no match for them but can because of their speed harass them. There is no real missile war as with Pavs, more a skirmishing battle, which is for me much more interesting.

I will make a little Ancient pack which lets play as either Spartans or Athens with the following units: Athenian Hoplites, Spartan Hoplites, Greek Archers and Peltasts. It will not destroy your current installation and is merely a little add-on.

Cheers, Duke John

frogbeastegg
09-11-2003, 18:09
New patron Antigonid has this to say:

"For some wierd reason Im not able to post in the appropriate forum for this.... (despite my record as a forum & chat mod for a 10,000 person online community and also my experience as forum mod for the coolest gaming clan there is - but hey... how could you possibly know that?).....

The images of hoplites (Spartan close order and 'other' are flipping awesome

I'd love to collaborate in the conceptual design of the mod - please contact me at:

timd@ltgamer.com "

You can find his original post here. (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=15;t=10833)