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Ironside
09-11-2003, 10:49
I was playing VI as the Scotts. The game went fine and I was able to take out the Picts and Northumbrians was on my way on destoying the Irish when the game started to get weird.
Suddenly I gained control of all the provinces of the Welsh, probably because a Welsh princess had maried my heir early in the game.
But the Welsh still had their king in one of thier old provinses, still in his colours but controlable by me (that shield in the upper left corner was still welsh). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif And the Welsh were still a faction.
After some years he died and left behind a general that still had the Welsh colours but the shield was now scottish and I gave him a title.
Around here the Mercians died out after holding the entire southern part of England. I was only able to take one province becouse my main army was finshing of the last remains of the Irish. The Mercians reappeard and took control of its former empire and soon afterwards we where a war.
The Mercians assulted mostly the province that was defended by the former Welsh general (still in Welsh colour though). When I took control of the battle the next chock came. My general unit was not on the battlefield http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif . Instead another unit had the command but still with the commandbonuses that my general had. After several battles, where my general died in one battle but were back in the next battle or to be speciffic his commandbonus, I got the message that I had cought the Mercian king that were ransomed back for 10k. I found that odd because I knew that the enemy king had routed from the battlefield. Then when I checked the enemy stacks I saw why: The Mercians had two kings http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
One was commanding a regiment of fyrdman The had the same name and number but had different ages.
I couldn't win a full victory because the game crashed down to desktop every time I tried, probably because the Welsh still existed with one unit and two ships.

It's even more weird than the muslim Mongolian highlander clansman rebellions I had in Georgia in MTW v 1.0 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

gaelic cowboy
09-11-2003, 21:45
I changed the text file to play as the pope and got excomunicated by myself. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif mad isn't it.

The Blind King of Bohemia
09-11-2003, 21:48
Ironside, i've only ever had something like that in Shogun and that sounds mad but a good game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The_Emperor
09-11-2003, 22:16
My wierdest happenings were when I played as the Sicillians in VI... The Hungarians had married their princess to me, and I had no heirs but I decide to assassinate myself

I got this really funny message sayingt hat everyone hd thought I had gone nuts with such an order... Still I thought the assassin wouldn't succeed he only had a 1% chance of success.

What happened? he succeeded, I recieved some message about Civil War but all the stats were at Zero (No provinces, No command, No armies... No leader)

I looked at the map and my ships Were still there But everything I had was Hungarian and the game wouldn't end http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Man that was wierd Still not every day you assassinate yourself and plunge your kingdom into chaos for a laugh http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Ironside
09-15-2003, 09:33
Yes I had the Imgawaga running around without a Daimyo once in STW. If I remember correctly they was vanquished, but still allied to me, and they had an empire in the eastern Mori lands. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

But I have never heard about someone with two kings before. Any ideas what caused it?

LestaT
09-15-2003, 11:48
Not wierd, but highly frustrating. I was playing the spanish in the hard mode. Somehow the game seems to be easy with me earlier. I have lots of great generals, weak enemies and other faction just seems to turn into rebel status very early.

By the time around the year 1340's i have managed to get 6o% provinces (and the offer to acclain lesser victory). Of course i would go on to total domination. Everything is smmoth. I built large armies. Lots of the provinces have at least castles. There are maybe a couple of factions left (papacy, sicilian and the danes.)

I have conquered all thelands of europe except the papal lands and scandinavian. The only provinces left are the islands.

All my provinces have 200 % loyalty and 100 % catholic. What else could you ask for more ? Then around 1445 i decided to wrap up the game and attack all the island provinces( held by the rebels)and finishing the sicilian. Of course i get the warning from the pope but i quickly wrap up the sicilian. ( they were hiding in a small fort in malta anyway )

The second year all the sicilian were terminated and i invade the scandinavian next. Norway, denmark and sweden are quickly subdued. Then i make a mistake. I don't know.

I didn't leave a large armies in my faction heartland. Only about 100 soldiers in each of the provinces. I'm not sure where is the fault but maybe i send my king and all his heirs to ireland. (at that time there were barren .. no buildings or port at all).

Maybe because of the cutoff all my provinces( i mead ALL) provinces loyalties drop down to 0 %Can you see how frustrated i am. The years were not long to finish. Most of the provinces can easily be subdued. The rebellion crushed. But in the east the mongols reappeared. Though i left quite a large armies there they are no match for the mongols.

Even my heartland rebeled. (portugal, valencie, leon, cordoba etc.) At that time my king and heirs are still stuck in Ireland. The port hast finished yet. One by one my provinces were swept up by rebellion. When the year ended in 1453 my provinces were down to about 40 %. I lost

p/s: almost kick the monitor out of frustation

Drucius
09-15-2003, 15:19
It's been noted before that if your king is cutoff from the rest of his subjects, their loyalty will often plummett. My guess is that you got an extreme reaction to the Kings remoteness.