A favour to ask

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I am trying to find the rulers for Genoa for the Early,high and late periods with no luck at all. Can anyone help?

[magnatz]

Here is the Genoa info I have collected as of now, let me know if it isn't enough. Sorry for the confused way I put it down, but here in Italy it is 4 AM ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

(BTW, while I was googling the Italian history sites I stumbled in a couple of informations about some historical Genoese units, so I pasted them too, hope it helps http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

The Genoan history is very complex, because of the many civil wars and the variations in the form of government. However Genoa was a republic (so it shouldn't have princesses in the game IMHO, same thing applies to Venice and Switzerland) and Genoese rulers were elected. Some of them staid in charge for life, some for two years, and a number only kept the job for one day


Notes:
-The dates I reported are either when the rulers did something important, or the approximate period when they lived.

-When only one name is reported, it is the family name unless otherwise specified.

-The correct title for italian rulers and heroes is "messer", not "don"


Ruler names:
- Ansaldo Doria (1134)
- Simone Doria (1155)
- Nicolo Doria (1200)
- Guglielmo Boccanegra (1257)
- Simone Boccanegra (1339)
- Gabriele Adorno (1363)
- Domenico Fregoso (1370)
- Giacomo Fregoso (1390)
- Nicolò Guarco (1380)
- Antoniotto Adorno (1396, sold the city to the king of France&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
- Vallerano di Lussemburgo, Count of Saint Pol (1397, French governor)
- Jean Le Mangre Boucicault, (1401, French governor. The Genoans called him "Messer Bucicaldo" )
- Giorgio Adorno (1413, Genoan)
(this is *not* a complete list, I just picked up some of the most significant rulers)


Foreign dominations and civil wars.
1396-1409: Genoa is under the rule of the King of France.
1421-1436: Genoa is under the rule of Filippo Maria Visconti, Lord of Milan.
1458-1461: France again.
1463-1478: Milan again (Francesco and Galeazzo Maria Sforza)

Then Genoa became indipendent again until Napoleon time.
(they signed a non aggression treaty with Napoleon and were immediately invaded, go figure http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif) .


Emissaries:
- Caffaro di Rustico(hero, 1154)
- Guglielmo Cicala
- Ivo Contardo
- Oberto Spinola
- Niccolò Doria


Heroes:
- Guglielmo Embriaco aka "Capo di Maglio" (Hammerhead), 1099
- Oberto Doria (1284)
- Lamba Doria (1298)
- Egidio Boccanegra (1344)
- Giovanni Giustiniani Longo (dead 1453)
- Maurizio Cattaneo (dead 1453)
(other available)

Genoan admirals in service of other nations:

in service of the King of Portugal
- Carlo da Passano

in service of the King of Spain
- Egidio Boccanegra

in service of the King of Spain
- Zaccaria
- Lomellini
- Doria
- Spinola

in service of the King of England
- Pessagno
- Usodimare
- Fregoso

in service of King Federico di Sicilia
- Doria

Ruler titles

(from 1099 al 1339)
Console (plural: Consoli)
Podestà (plural: Podestà)
Capitano del popolo (plural: Capitani del popolo)

(from 1339 to 1797)
Doge (plural: Dogi)

NB: the correct title for italian rulers and heroes is "messer", not "don"


Genoan Family Names
These Genoan families fought for supremacy in 1200, they were split in two factions:

-the Ghibellini faction(pro Emperor):
Doria, Spinola, De Mari, Centurione,

-the Guelfi faction (pro Pope):
Fieschi, Grimaldi, Fregoso


Genoan historical units
Balestrieri del Mandraccio
(Mandraccio Crossbowmen, or Crossbowmen of The Harbour))
First organized by Guglielmo Embriaco, the Genoese Crossbowmen were a amphibian force, capable of operating indefferently at sea and on land. They were very appreciated by allies and were occasionally hired for a fee.
NB: Their weapon was a crossbow, not a bow.

...Ma Guglielmo aveva molte risorse e non si faceva apprezzare soltanto per la sua bravura politica e marinaresca. Le sue capacità spaziavano anche nell'arte militare e due sue invenzioni fecero la fortuna di molti comandanti crociati. Si presume che sia stato lui a migliorare una delle armi più temibili del Medio Evo: la balestra. Difatti, celebri erano i "balestrieri del Mandraccio" che venivano richiesti sia nelle battaglie a terra che in quelle navali.

Mobile Siege Tower
This was a special siege tower conceived by Guglielmo Embriaco. It was covered in leather and carried a balestrieri crew near and over the walls of a besieged town, so they could shoot at the defenders from an advantage point. It was determinant for the conquest of Jerusalem.

Di sicuro è sua l'invenzione della "Torre mobile", un'alta costruzione in legno rivestita di cuoio, che veniva avvicinata alle mura delle città assediate, per permettere ai balestrieri nascosti al suo interno di scaricare le frecce delle balestre verso il nemico asseragliato. Quest'arma segreta fu determinante per la conquista di Gerusalemme.

Pisan Knights
(Cavalieri Pisani)
The bodyguard of the first Doge, Simone Boccanegra. The corp was set up after a assassination attempt, and for security reason the 103 knights were "foreign" (ie they came from the nearby city of Pisa).
NB: so they were not "noble", since Pisa was a maritime republic too.

...il Doge si costituì una speciale guardia del corpo di centrotre cavalieri pisani.


NB: let me know if you need real descriptions and not a rushed translation.


Web sites (in italian)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/3987/Genova/
http://www.francobampi.it/liguria/link.htm

Please let me know if you need some other Italian related info, translations, descriptions and so on. My major gripe with this fantastic game is the way they "invented" a non-existing Italian faction, and I really appreciate the effort you are doing to set the things right http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ShadesWolf]

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- Antoniotto Adorno (1396, sold the city to the king of France
- Vallerano di Lussemburgo, Count of Saint Pol (1397, French governor)
- Jean Le Mangre Boucicault, (1401, French governor. The Genoans called him "Messer Bucicaldo" )
- Giorgio Adorno (1413, Genoan)


Now this brings up a very interesting point. Does this mean that during this period Genoa was a part of France, and hence they receivec Genoese Crossbowmen ?

ALSO
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/3987/Genova/stemma1.gif

Intersting coat of arms. White background with a red cross. I was reading somewhere over the weekend that a current theory talking about the battle of Crecy things teh reason why the French Knights ran the Corssbosmen down was partly the fact they wore a red cross on a white background, hence the knights thought they were English.....

HISTORY

Genoa's history goes far back into ancient times. A city cemetery, dating from the 4th century BC, testifies to the occupation of the site by the Greeks, but the fine harbour probably was in use much earlier. Destroyed by the Carthaginians in 209BC, the town was rebuilt by the Romans, who used it as a base during their wars with the Ligurians. Under the Romans, the city enjoyed municipal rights and exported skins, wood, and honey.

Little is known of Genoese history from the fall of the Roman Empire (476) until the 11th century, by which time the city had become a maritime republic governed by consuls. Genoa then contributed ships to the campaign against Saracen corsairs in Italian waters. The Genoese, in alliance with Pisa, eventually drove the Saracens from settlements on the islands of Corsica and Sardinia, which thereafter became prizes in a long naval war between the two city-states. In the 12th century the Genoese extended their mastery over the adjacent coast and nearby mountain valleys and laid the foundations of future naval greatness and prosperity. Genoese ships transported Crusaders to the Middle East and returned laden with booty. Genoese merchants, profiting from the newly awakened European demand for goods from the Middle East, were to be found in all the principal centres of trade. Genoese forts and trading posts spread through the eastern Mediterranean and the Aegean seas and eventually into the Black Sea. Their trade, facilitated by friendly relations with the Byzantine Empire, brought Genoa and Venice into increasing rivalry, which broke into open warfare in the mid-13th century, just as Genoese power reached its height. At the Battle of Meloria (1284), Genoa crushed Pisa, the power of which thereafter declined; the Venetians were defeated at Curzola in 1299. The oligarchy of prosperous merchants and bankers that had ruled the Genoese Republic after 1257 subsequently dealt on equal terms with the courts of popes and kings. Genoese expansion, in fact, had been largely the work of citizens whose primary concern was the advancement of their private interests. As a result, the city was torn between factions contending for control of the government. The rival groups did not hesitate to call in outside powers to aid them. Even the dogeship, the institution of first magistrate, established in 1339, was unable to master the ensuing disorders. Although the struggle sapped Genoese strength, and despite continued bitter rivalry with Venice, the Genoese largely held their own for several decades. In 1380, however, their fleet fell into Venetian hands at Chioggia, a blow from which their naval power never recovered. Venice drew far ahead, and Genoese overseas possessions were lost one by one, although the last, Corsica, was held until 1768, when it was ceded to France. Internal strife finally ended under the rigid dogeship that Andrea Doria had established with the help of the Holy Roman emperor in 1528, and Genoa prospered as a shipbuilding port and banking centre. Although powerful neighbours, France and Piedmont, dominated the city, Genoese independence was respected until 1797, when Napoleon Bonaparte abolished the dogeship and incorporated Genoa into the newly organized Ligurian Republic, which in turn was absorbed by the French Empire in 1805.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I'm doing last minute changes for the Beta and i'm sorry abut the delay. Thank you both ever so much, i really needed this info.
Magnatz, i can't find the leader for early at the moment. The one for Beta will be a Doria but not accurate. I'm sorry about that, but it will be changed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Lord Of Storms]

Here is a good resource for Kings of various periods it is worth a look,
Periphery of Francia= Rulers of the past (http://www.friesian.com/perifran.htm)

[DBS]

Certainly do not claim to be an expert on Genoa, but a couple of additional glosses to Magnatz' excellent offering:

During the first few years of the Hundred Years War, Genoese mercenary galleys under Ayton Doria - yes, that family again - were the key bit of the French navy that made life in the English Channel utterly miserable for Edward III. It pains any true Englishman to say it, but English naval superiority over the Froggies was a little way off at this time However, Edward responded with suitable dirty tricks in 1340. He too employed the services of a Genoese mercenary - Niccolo Usomare, who was the English Constable of Bordeaux. Usomare seems to have popped back home with all the spare cash Edward could find, plus a loan from the Bardi bankers in Florence, and out-bribed the French. Philip VI had hired another lot of Genoese galleys and crossbowmen, but Usomare then bibed them not to go anywhere. In any case, the Genoese were starting to get a little hacked off with Philip and Doria, after the latter pocketed all their pay. When the original crews at Boulogne complained to Philip in 1339, he threw their spokesmen in jail and the rest promptly headed home in a bad mood. All this contributed to the huge French naval defeat at Sluys - one wonders whether the English would have won had the Genoese galleys been around.

Also, many of the famous Genoese at Crecy had originally been hired for naval service, before Philip found a more urgent role for them ashore.

[magnatz]

Quote[/b] (The Blind King of Bohemia @ Sep. 15 2003,09:09)]
I did some more research. Unfortunately according to the Italian "Archivi di Stato" (the "official" source for Italian history), a list of the Genoese rulers in the early period does not exist, so the next best thing is to dig in the records of the single families.

The Doria seem to be a good choice, because a number of them did actually rule Genoa in the early period of the Republic.

This is a list of some Doria that were Consuls in Genoa in 1100-1200. They are in chronological order, but I could not find all the election dates.

Ansaldo Doria, 1134
Enrico Doria
Simone Doria
Guglielmo Doria, 1155
Branca Doria
Simone Doria, 1165
Niccolò Doria, 1200

Source: history of the Doria family
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/3987/Genova/famiglia_doria.htm

For later periods there is a reasonably complete list of the Genoese Dogi, starting from 1207:
http://www.francobampi.it/genova/elenchi/governi/

I also edited a couple of emissary names in my previous post. based on snippets of information I stumbled into while looking for the ruler names.

I am looking forward to the mod release http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif