Favourite Unit?? [Archive]

Omar Mena

09-16-2003, 01:53

I would have to say Kensai and Heavy Cavalry. Watching a Kensai slice n' dice through the enemy is like watching your child perfect Mozart's Symphony. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

p.s. Please answer Shogun Books thread It is urgent

p.p.s. Can amod please promote me? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

bighairyman

09-16-2003, 02:54

Quote[/b] (Snowhobbit @ Sep. 15 2003,15:54)]Id have to say the Vgs and the trebs, these units can reduce everything to nothing if they work in unison.
Ofcourse the Pronoia Allaigon (or whatever theyre called) are extremly powerfull... i beated the crap out of a mongolian army with basiclly these nice cavs only http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .
ain't the treb the same as the catapul(sp), and by the time ur can build a treb there are better seige unit avviable.

a unit of longbowmen and late royal knight can take down a VG http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Eastside Character

09-16-2003, 22:11

Szekely - fast, 4 3 1 3 4 stats - that's all I need http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stratagos Desaix

09-16-2003, 22:52

Hi first post here and i'd have to say Teutonic knights IMO I know there are much stronger units but the fact that you only get them from crusades gives them an elite status and they're always battle winners for me.

bighairyman

09-17-2003, 01:17

well if you want to, there's mods now out there that will let you build crusading units.

Stratagos Desaix

09-17-2003, 01:33

@Bighairyman Thanks just saw one.

Aelwyn

09-17-2003, 02:38

mmm....tough choices. I'd say Camels.....I like any Horse Archer, mostly Boyars....Feudal Foot Knights...Alan Mercs.

Anything fast or unusual or rarely used that actually works.

Emp. Conralius

09-17-2003, 02:51

Gothic Foot Knights and Hospitaller Foot Knights...

Snowhobbit

09-17-2003, 07:34

Citera[/b] (bighairyman @ Sep. 16 2003,04:54)]
Citera[/b] (Snowhobbit @ Sep. 15 2003,15:54)]Id have to say the Vgs and the trebs, these units can reduce everything to nothing if they work in unison.
Ofcourse the Pronoia Allaigon (or whatever theyre called) are extremly powerfull... i beated the crap out of a mongolian army with basiclly these nice cavs only http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .
ain't the treb the same as the catapul(sp), and by the time ur can build a treb there are better seige unit avviable.

a unit of longbowmen and late royal knight can take down a VG http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Sorry... my bad, ofcourse i ment trebz(trebizond archers)...
And by the time you can get late royal knights and longbowmen you would have been destroyed by me if i were the byz...

Bevan of Hertfordshire

09-17-2003, 10:02

Longbowmen for pure englishness and the sheer amount of damage they can do

HopAlongBunny

09-17-2003, 10:26

JHI

More than a melee unit, these are a labour of love

Did I build the Master whatsit?
Did I build the College?
I gotta build what?
etc.

At least they deliver the goods on the batlefield http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

rolin

09-17-2003, 10:33

Galowglass-Warriors chargeing downhill. I like to watch this.

LeftEyeNine

09-17-2003, 19:17

Almohad Urban Militia and the brand new Arab Infantry do not leave the battlefield until they are totally beaten to the last drop of blood.And thats what i like:Soldiers that fight until they die...

Leet Eriksson

09-17-2003, 19:21

Lately mamelukes,faris,byz cav,and szekley very usefule and versatile.

bighairyman

09-18-2003, 03:05

Quote[/b] (Snowhobbit @ Sep. 17 2003,01:34)]
Quote[/b] (bighairyman @ Sep. 16 2003,04:54)]
Quote[/b] (Snowhobbit @ Sep. 15 2003,15:54)]Id have to say the Vgs and the trebs, these units can reduce everything to nothing if they work in unison.
Ofcourse the Pronoia Allaigon (or whatever theyre called) are extremly powerfull... i beated the crap out of a mongolian army with basiclly these nice cavs only http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .
ain't the treb the same as the catapul(sp), and by the time ur can build a treb there are better seige unit avviable.

a unit of longbowmen and late royal knight can take down a VG http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Sorry... my bad, ofcourse i ment trebz(trebizond archers)...
And by the time you can get late royal knights and longbowmen you would have been destroyed by me if i were the byz...
seeign that england is far away from constandople(sp), i think not, if tou are thinking of sea invasion, you need to build a lot of ships, and that's gonna take a lot of time. and there's nothing the byzatines got in late that can beat a combined army of longbowmen, late royal knight, and chvarilat foot knights. and maybe some serpentine.

oh, 3 unit of longbowmen(120 men each) can take down anything, i had a battle today. 3 royal knights charged at me. by the time the rroyal kngiths reach the longbowmen. 2 units were taking down. and ofcourse the third one is take care of by my CFK and my own royal knight http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Snowhobbit

09-18-2003, 07:32

Citera[/b] (bighairyman @ Sep. 18 2003,05:05)]
Citera[/b] (Snowhobbit @ Sep. 17 2003,01:34)]
Citera[/b] (bighairyman @ Sep. 16 2003,04:54)]
Citera[/b] (Snowhobbit @ Sep. 15 2003,15:54)]Id have to say the Vgs and the trebs, these units can reduce everything to nothing if they work in unison.
Ofcourse the Pronoia Allaigon (or whatever theyre called) are extremly powerfull... i beated the crap out of a mongolian army with basiclly these nice cavs only http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .
ain't the treb the same as the catapul(sp), and by the time ur can build a treb there are better seige unit avviable.

a unit of longbowmen and late royal knight can take down a VG http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Sorry... my bad, ofcourse i ment trebz(trebizond archers)...
And by the time you can get late royal knights and longbowmen you would have been destroyed by me if i were the byz...
seeign that england is far away from constandople(sp), i think not, if tou are thinking of sea invasion, you need to build a lot of ships, and that's gonna take a lot of time. and there's nothing the byzatines got in late that can beat a combined army of longbowmen, late royal knight, and chvarilat foot knights. and maybe some serpentine.

oh, 3 unit of longbowmen(120 men each) can take down anything, i had a battle today. 3 royal knights charged at me. by the time the rroyal kngiths reach the longbowmen. 2 units were taking down. and ofcourse the third one is take care of by my CFK and my own royal knight http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Its not that far... if you build ships to provence instead of all the way to wessex you save a couple of years...
And i wouldnt be using kats for flanking on the English, I would use the fantaatic pronoia...

-Amon-

09-21-2003, 23:49

hmmm..

when in defence: arbalesters

other conditionals-->jhi..

jhi is my favourite any way http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

ChErNoByl

09-22-2003, 02:28

i absolutely love heavy cavalry. Ever since one battle when i was outnumbered like 3 to 1. I had about 300 men (a lot of them heavy cavalry) against about 1000 byzantines. I placed myself between a valley, my infantry in it and my cavalry on the surrounding hills, far away. The enemy army charged straight down the center and my infantry proceeded to hold them off while my cavalry hurried to the hills.

The absolute coolest thing to watch is hundreds of heavily armored royal knights charging down a steep hill into a crowd of spear-less units. The initial impact instantly mows down like 80 troops. The rest of the infantry disappear into the giant crowd of cavalry. After the chaos settles, a THICK pool of corpses remain, and the remaining remnants scatter away, some units only 1 man left in them.

Loved cavalry ever since.

Nestor

09-22-2003, 15:47

In every campaign a certai type of unit happens to save my a** in the first few battles, when I try to organise my economy and give less attention to my armies. I have to admit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif I usually fall in love with them, whatever they are, for the rest of the campaign http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

cutepuppy

09-22-2003, 19:09

There are a lot of good units, depending on what you use them for. In MTW my votes go to spanish jinettes, VG, JHI, Lancers and pavise Arbs.

Gregoshi

09-23-2003, 05:59

Hi there cutepuppy. Welcome to the Org.

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http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Er, was someone else already using the name Fang? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Tony

09-23-2003, 11:39

Anything with Janissary in the name. JHI are just superb in melee. Excellent horse killers as well as all round butt kickers. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

JI combine very good melee skills with archery - one of the best hybrids in the game. JA - well, probably the weakest of the 3 - still good archers, just not an exceptional unit like JHI and JI.

The build requirements are a big obstacle - but are they worth the pain or what?

Quokka

09-23-2003, 17:50

Quote[/b] (Bevan of Hertfordshire @ Sep. 17 2003,17:02)]Longbowmen for pure englishness and the sheer amount of damage they can do
Nothing has caused as much carnage for the English since Longbows until recently with the advent of Soccer Hooligans. Just put them in a foreign stadium armed with Millwall Bricks and they make Ghazi's look like nancy boys. Just watch out for Glassgow Kisses.

Longbows are awesome. My Turk campaign didn't last long enough to get to Janissaries, but Torcoman Horse Archers were very good and easy to get.

Scipio

09-24-2003, 04:16

For me gotta be treb or longbowmen.tres are just so cool lookin ( ever since I did a treb for engineering tech I have been in love with them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Lord Rom

09-27-2003, 05:10

in campaign I go heavy into longbows Bribe the welsh and get them years ahead of time, enemy cav turn into pincushions very quickly. in multi I prefer the janni heavies for the way they carve horsies into hamburger in an instant http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[DnC]

09-27-2003, 05:42

I mostly like Arbalesters for their usefullness in long battles. Though Longbowmen are amazing when you need to make short work of a particular unit.

I also like extremely tough units like Varangian Guards of which VG is on top.

Ofcourse I also like the backbone of my army like Byzantine Infantry, Feudal/Chivilric Sergeants, Billmen etc http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I don't really have a favorite unit in particular, just many units which I like.

Duncan

09-27-2003, 16:53

Well it depends the way you play, offensive or defensive ways, shock attack or harassment.
An excellent polyvalent unit is Hallebarders (Hallebardier); they can repulse cavalry as well as normal infantry.
You do not have to worry so much about them and you can give all your attention about managing flanks movements or precise operations by elite units.
So far I do not have to complain about their morale.

Gregoshi

09-29-2003, 03:40

Hello Duncan from the lands of France http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif Welcome to the Org.

I'll spare you the lame joke I was going to post...I can be merciful at times. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

MILITARYMAN

09-30-2003, 02:16

Chivalric men at arms hold well for me?

well not all the time.............just some of the time ??

LOL........... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

toddy

10-03-2003, 13:27

JHI are the most complete unit in the game Fantastic i remember playing in a 2v2 on MP and ambushed my apponent from some trees.. He thought he was mullering my Saracens until the Heavies stormed into his entire infantry flank and mullered the lot It made me laugh when my oppenet asked if my soldiers were armed with chainsaws

I love the Stepps heavy Cav as well Superb heavy cav with bows the ultimate combination

Doom Train

10-03-2003, 13:59

Chilvaric Knights with all armor upgrades

dunnichen

01-07-2004, 12:05

My favoured nations are the Danish, HRE and English. When I'm not playing the English I try to conquer GB as soon as possible (sorry&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif. Why?

Because the combination of Billmen and Longbowmen is prodigious. With a little cavalry nearby you can fight everything up to the fivefold size.

Only a Swiss army can compare, with Swiss Halbardiers and Armoured Pikemen.

Normal Halbardiers have few honour (0), so you need a good general to use them well. Recently I fought with 2300 Germans against 900 English. I thought it a easy task. My first time to encounter Billmen on the other side. The billmen ( 3 units) charge together with two units HC Knights. My halbardiers broke and run away. With my reserves I could win the battle but I had to use wicked tactics to finally bring down the billmen.

Mounted Crossbowmen are good to annoy the enemy and lure him down from his hill.

Spanish Ulans and Gothic Knights are the best cavalry.

If I could use only one unit, I would go with Billmen for infantry and Ulans for cavalry.

And the unit I'm emotionally most bounded with are Irish Kern. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

makkyo

01-07-2004, 23:23

I'd have to say... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif no wait lost it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif scottish clansmen with all bonuses. They can take on any unit (except calvary) and are extremely fast too. An all round great unit.
Battle of Stirling Bridge http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

LestaT

01-08-2004, 11:58

longbowmen longbowmen longbowmen..
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LestaT

01-08-2004, 12:01

Is there any way to play the russian faction starting from the early years ? i know its the mod question but i'm too lazy to search for it. can sameone mail me the answer ??

Aymar de Bois Mauri

01-08-2004, 15:42

Quote[/b] ]Is there any way to play the russian faction starting from the early years ? i know its the mod question but i'm too lazy to search for it. can sameone mail me the answer ??
Try the Twenty Kings of Europe campaign in the ORG downloads page. It allows for the People of Novgorod, the Hungarians and the Papacy, to be played in Early. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

trutzi

01-08-2004, 16:05

hello i'm new here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

teutonic knights (they rule) and horse archers (cause a fast cheap unit)

Aymar de Bois Mauri

01-08-2004, 16:56

Welcome to the ORG, trutzi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Bezalel

01-08-2004, 17:30

longbow or boyar. both are excellent.

altti

01-08-2004, 17:43

Vanilla urban militia. It never causes surprises.

Aymar de Bois Mauri

01-08-2004, 17:57

Quote[/b] ]Vanilla urban militia. It never causes surprises.
Sure, it won't... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ...to the enemy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Conner MacLeod

01-09-2004, 10:11

Highland Clansmen and on the archery side the longbow. I just like how they handle in battle, longbow range doesn't hurt either (I suppose http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif )

Ja'chyra

01-09-2004, 10:58

Why am I not surprised that you like the highland clansman Connor??????? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

There can be only one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

napman

01-09-2004, 11:43

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif What about janissary heavy infantry, had great results with them. also agree about arbalesters in defence and joms vikings. anybody tried the napolean mod, very good.

Aymar de Bois Mauri

01-09-2004, 13:25

Welcome to the ORG, Conner MacLeod and CELTIC WARRIOR http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Ja'chyra

01-09-2004, 15:48

Quote[/b] ]Welcome to the ORG, Conner MacLeod and CELTIC WARRIOR

Thanks for reminding me of my manners Aymar de Bois Mauri. Welcome to the org guys, maybe see you online sometime, it'd be good to play other Scotsmen. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

Gregoshi

01-09-2004, 17:40

A Scotsman clad in kilt
Left a bar one evening fair.
And one could tell by how he walked
That he drunk more that his share...

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Welcome to all the Scotsmen and Scotsmen wanna-be's. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

MuseRulez

01-16-2004, 12:38

Janisary Heavy's ofcourse They hack through any unit in no time (Could be wrong, I'm only playing for a month)

Finn

01-16-2004, 14:27

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ Jan. 09 2004,16:40)]A Scotsman clad in kilt
Left a bar one evening fair.
And one could tell by how he walked
That he drunk more that his share...

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-joker.gif

Welcome to all the Scotsmen and Scotsmen wanna-be's. :wave:
lad i dont know where you bin but i see you won first prizzzeee

as to favorite, havent played enough with enough variety to pick a fave.

kataphraktoi

01-16-2004, 19:16

My old lecturer was Scottish and he kept using the word Bastard a few times. Even called me one for not paying him 5 grand for a pass in Crusading history. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif All in Good Humour.

PowerProjection

01-16-2004, 20:31

I too have fallen in love with units that saved my butt in battles were my butt was on the line.

Murabatin-When used right and not charged right away by cav can devastate some pricier units.

Muwahid infantry and Italian Infantry- held the line when I needed it to be held the most.

Nizari's- Nothing too special but reliable and good morale. My first battle vs. the Mongols (3900 me vs. 6200 them) the Nizari's killed 700 units a piece (and I had 3 nizari's). By the end of the battle the Mongols had 4000 dead to my 900 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif . The thing I loved the most was that they never got exhausted throughout the two hour battle.

Abyssinian Guards- Not too special either, but when used right (charging downhill or fighting in trees) helped me out against the many enemies that I had, carving them up with those nice shiny axes. Morale kept high even when being flanked from behind

Khwarzimans- Heavy cavalry like Kataphraktoi with great morale and power. One unit usually gets pretty messed up while another one lasts the whole battle, very good unit.

Units I don't have much luck with: Nubian spearmen and horse archers.

Nubian's get cut down pretty quick whenever I have them and horse archers never seem to do enough damage to satisfy my thirst for blood.

Basileus

01-16-2004, 20:39

Quote[/b] (PowerProjection @ Jan. 16 2004,13:31)]Units I don't have much luck with: Nubian spearmen and horse archers.

Nubian's get cut down pretty quick whenever I have them and horse archers never seem to do enough damage to satisfy my thirst for blood.
Well nubians rock in the desert so try using them there mostly...Horse Archers need alot of micromanagement but if you your good in using them they can be very efficient.

Bezalel

01-16-2004, 21:10

Faris, the longbow, and Itatalian Infantry.

Duke of RumpyPumpy

01-17-2004, 03:16

Saharan Cavalry.

I am very new to the game, and my greatest moments of generalship is charging routing opponents from behind.

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ichi

01-17-2004, 03:28

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-shocked.gif

Welcome to The Org, Duke. You seem like a pretty cheeky guy.

How do you feel about those times when you're getting beaten, butt then turn things around for a come from behind victory?

ichi

Dillinger

01-17-2004, 04:23

Naptha throwers all the way Excellent units, when used properly. I once had one rout an entire unit of Feudals. Teriffic fun. I also have a special place in my heart for Spanish Javelineers (Or however you say it ...) and Genoese Sailors.

Duke of RumpyPumpy

01-17-2004, 04:26

umm... erm... *cough* *cough*

Note to self: Always check new posts for any unexpected connotations.

I .. DID .. NOT have militarial relations, with that army ... the Spanish ...

I also like Bedouin Camel warriors. In one battle with a Spanish army, I was routed across the field but was able to bring on reinforcements and hold on to my end of the battlefield. The spanish had a large group of Knights of Santiago who were butchering me all through my retreat. I would guess that they were very tired by the time they had chased me to my end of the field. I charged my Camel warriors into them then looked away to attend to something else. A few moments later I looked back and all that was left was bodies. The camels totally slaughtered them to the last man. I went on to win the battle.

After that I was so impressed I built way to many of them and have recently been disbanding them to try to save money.

Gawain of Orkeny

01-17-2004, 18:14

Skezkley Ilike them because with a little valor they can do it all.They sa have good h2h and are fast and can be a real pain in the butt with their arrows,Faris are the exactly the same in every way.

Funky Phantom

01-18-2004, 15:09

I developed a special love for Szeleky from my Hungarian campaigns, Avar Nobles were pretty decent too, they havent gor a mention so far so i'll give them one, not forgetting Steppe Heavy Cav also :)

Apart from them i'd go with the usual stuff, such as Varangian's, JHI, Longbows etc

Finn

01-18-2004, 23:11

Okay i now have a new love of the highland clansmen

had my first bridge battle (against the germans), and didnt have any archers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif so i thought i i was screwed.. sent over a load of feudal knights with some feudul men at arms and they slaughtered the peasents the ai had guarding the bridge but faltered with the spearmen he had reinforced with and started losing badly..

pulled everything back over to my side of the bridge, and without much hope sent over my 2 units of highland clansmen across the bridge, wow these guys ROCK they cut through everything the AI through to protect the bridge, until they eventually touched down on the soil ay the other side of the bridge at which point the rest of the german army legged it, final score, highland clansmen losses 60, kills over 500 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif

Myrano

01-19-2004, 02:00

My favorite units would have to be chivalric knights or their equivalents (Fighting Order knights, royal knights from the High period). I just like to get them all lined up pretty. And send them in from the side. Nothing like crushing people and then taking hundreds of prisoners.

Some of the ones I owe the most to would have to be Armoured Spearmen. Just from this one battle as the Hungarians I had 3 units, and they broke wave after wave of Egyptians... Nubians, Berbers, all of them. Very dependable.

Gregoshi

01-19-2004, 05:52

Greetings and welcome Myrano. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

I like knight work too. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Myrano

01-19-2004, 07:18

Honored to be here. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif

HawaiianHobbit

01-19-2004, 15:47

Quote[/b] (Tony @ Sep. 23 2003,06:39)]Anything with Janissary in the name. JHI are just superb in melee. Excellent horse killers as well as all round butt kickers. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stupid.gif I also love the VG's http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-army.gif

Count Fudgula

01-21-2004, 13:05

Well if it's STW it's got to be the mighty Kensai. I tried a Seven Samurai style custom battle once with a few of these guys against hundreds of mounted and foot soldiers (can't remember if I included any archers). It was pretty remarkable, and yes they DID win with about three men lost.

In MTW, I tend to build up a lot of affection for individual units who have got me out of a tight spot. There was one guy left from a unit of unretrainable Templar Knights who I didn't like to risk in battle initially but he ended up being called into action when things started to go a bit swirly. He ended my campaign with about valour 8, I think, after killing and capturing hundreds and hundreds of enemies. He was the closest thing to a kensai I've found in MTW so far.

As regards a unit I would not go into battle without, I would have to say fuedal/chivalric sergeants. They're not great on their own, but you gotta have them if you want the funkier units to be able to do their stuff.

somethingbrite

01-22-2004, 17:09

In MTW Viking its got to be Joms Vikings for me too. Sure there are other good things out there, but I too love the description, they stand firm against overwhelming odds and are powerfull shock troops too.
Otherwise Billmen are a good late addition to an English army, tough and dependable and good in defense and attack. Longbow...purely English but long range and quick rate of fire can prove devestating. (History is on my side here.)
The Byzantine heavy cavalry unit (forgot the name) is pretty good too but the emerging horse cav units from the steppe that appeared in VI mod are totally cool. fast, armed with bows but also good assault cav, like mongol heavy cav.

In STW it would have to be the medium/heavy cav type Naginata. devestating. In STW I would often play only with mounted archers and cav shock troops. Horse mobile on the field and terrible in assault.

Chubb

01-22-2004, 20:07

My favourte units are Longbowmen, because thy can practically win the battle before your soldiers get into ombat with the enemy, Billmen, because they are a good all-purpose unit and Steppe Cavalry for chasing down routed enemy.

The_678

01-22-2004, 21:18

Welcome to the Org Chubb http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
I also just wanted to say how useful the Viking Huscarles are in the Early Campaign. They are actually exactly the same as VG's Because of the Armourer Requirement that makes them the same as VG's. And they only take one year to build. At higher levels sure, the VG's beat them out by one armour upgrade. But by the time you can build even one VG you could have tons of Huscarles already. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Plus all you need is a Keep. In the HRE campaign I just played I blitzed into Scandinavia and had the rest of my empire building farms. The Landsmen and the Huscarles saved my borders more times than I can count. My armies were like almost pure Landsmenn and Huscarles with a few Royal knights. Everytime the French would attack I'd retreat to the fort and next round slaughter them with my viking army.
Go Huscarles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif