Campaign Editor

[Dragon2003]

My Program 'Campaign Editor' (CampEd for short) is close to it's first release. Not all the features are completed yet but in version 1.1 i hope to include everything that i want in the program.

I urgently need a BIF editor, but i cannot download from 3ddownloads.com I get to 5 in the queue then i am forced to 60 again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Could someone email the BIF editor to molem001@medway.org.uk

What the program helps people do, is create a full campaign (the type of campaign that goes in the campmap\startpos folder for you experts) and to try and minimize as many of the crashes that happen as possible.

Normally when i make a campaign, MTW crashes and i find out after hours of debugging later that i made one tiny spelling mistake on Egyptian

This program will also help new people to modding as all they need is to be able to type and click boxes, etc.

If you want to go onto advanced modding, you could always edit the borders and region settings instead of using the default ones.

I hope this program will help everyone (New people and Experts) in modding and i hope it will encourage more and more people to modding M:TW.

Here are some screenshots in Visual Basic 6.0:
*PICS COMING SOON*
*I need an image host http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif *

[Dragon2003]

Here are the pics at last

http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/uploaded2/CampEd1.jpg

http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/uploaded2/CampEd2.jpg

http://www.joshanddanielswebsite.com/uploaded2/CampEd3.jpg

Still need that BIF editor tho http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Al Shama'ar]

Hi, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

i've just sent you the BIF Editor.
hope everything works fine.
Those pics look awesome

keep it up. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif we can hardly wait.

Al

[Dragon2003]

Thanks How do i edit my posts, as i kinda think links to the pics would be better

[Al Shama'ar]

on the top right of your post, there should appear a DELETE EDIT QUOTE line.

if it doesn't it may be due to your junior patron status. if it does just click on EDIT and u'll be able to modify your post.

As once Gregoshi (moderator) put it: When in doubt ask a moderator

cheers
Al

[Lord Of Storms]

Greetings Dragon, looks promising, I also sent you bif editors 2 that I had see which one suits you best, I hope that helps, looking forward to trying your program LOS

[Dragon2003]

Yeah all it says is Quote, Al Shama'ar

Anyway, i can email the demo to anyone who posts their email address here

The demo goes up to the Set Region Owners as i wanted to put the map there, which is why i needed the bif editor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

So just slap your email here and i'll send you the demo.

If anyone has any requests or would like to completely complain about the program just post here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Lord Of Storms]

ronin27k@aol.com Thanks Dragon 2003, LOS P.S. The edit posts feature is for Junior Members and above

[Lord Of Storms]

Thnaks for the demo, short and sweet, very nice interface, this will make 1 click modding very easy for begginners and speed things up for the experienced, I like what I see so far, and hope you can include a version for VI2.0 keep up the good work, I was able to navigate to the set region owner in less than 5 minutes setting up all the pertinent info along the way very nice, cant wait to see the finished product. LOS

[Dragon2003]

Thanks, I do not have Vikings Invasion yet, but i am definitely going to get it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Maybe when the price drops down on the internet or when my dad is feeling less stingy then usual i will nag him to buy it for me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Since i have Shogun (and am ordering Warlords) i will see what i can do about a STW CampEd.

[Russ Mitchell]

Excellent... if it turns out to be user-friendly enough for pseudo-luddites like myself, it would allow for the possibility of adding in campaigns for the Hussite revolts...

When the VI added the magyars, did they include the Nicopolis campaign?

[Dragon2003]

Yes, i am trying to make it as user-friendly as possible http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Find a guide which will tell you how to edit a facion name and with this you should be able to make a decent mod

[hellenes]

arxidamos2003@yahoo.gr wow... the only thing i can say is that the endless debuging and search for mistakes maby approaches to an end.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Al Shama'ar]

Dragon

I only have VI:TW installed, but i'd like to give a look at ur demo, so here's where u can send it to:

alshamaar@hotmail.com

thx

Al

[Gregoshi]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif Hello Dragon2003. Welcome That is some impressive looking mod tool you're working on. Keep at it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Dragon2003]

OK I have sent the demo to:

arxidamos2003@yahoo.gr
alshamaar@hotmail.com

As i said in the email, i hope to finish the project today.

[Shahed]

Hi that looks pretty cool ...where can I download it ?

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[hellenes]

Dragon i got the beta but the windows cannot recognise it and cannot open it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif waht can ido wich program i need to open and/or install it(i know im completely noob in modding... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif )

[Revenant69]

Oh Wow Dragon, looks pretty impressive so far. Can i get a copy to check it out?

Here is my email: xRevenant69x@hotmail.com

Thanks and keep up the good work.

[Swamp Thing]

*Fights back electronic orgasm*


Must.............download...........program

[Dragon2003]

Well, SeljukSinan, you cannot download it yet, and i'm sorry guys, it doesn't look like it will be released today, but you never know

Thanks for your enthusiasm Swamp Thing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

and Hellenes, what error do you get? If any?

I think i know what might be wrong but i need to know what the error says.

[hellenes]

it sais: windows cannot open this file

File: CampEdDemo

To open this file the windows needs to know what program created it. Windows can go online to look it up automatically, or you can manually select from a list of
programs on your computer.

What do youwant to do?

- Use the web service to find the appropriate programm

- Select the program from a list

And in the properties of the filie it sais type of the programm: file
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[Dragon2003]

Can you run other files? Like Minesweeper or solitaire?
What version of windows do you have? 98? ME? XP?

If windows needs to know, then i created it in Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0. But i don't think that will help.

If you can run minesweeper then try reinstalling windows, i think this will solve your problem.

[hellenes]

Im on xp home but the site that the windows are looking for a match to open unknown files couldt recognise it. I just hope that the final version will work for me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Dragon2003]

Could you run minesweeper? as thats important.

Also could you post a screenshot of exactly what the error is. I am on windows ME and i haven't heard that error before. But i think that i have a good idea to whats wrong.

The key thing is if minesweeper or solitaire works

[GilJaysmith]

I'd like to see it... giljaysmith@hotmail.com

Ta...

Gil not CA

[GilJaysmith]

(Apparently I'd like to see it a lot ;-) ... duplicate post removed.)

[hellenes]

Hi jil http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif (Dragon you should exchange the editor to a beta demo of RTW otherwise dont give it to him http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) minsweepwer works solitare works and the message is just atypical one when you dont have the appropriate programme to open a file... maby there is a problem when the file was sent? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif still im hoping for the final version http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Dragon2003]

OK Hellenes, you may need the RunTime Files. I go look for them

[Dragon2003]

Here is the link to the runtime files:

Install these and it may work:

Run Time Files for VB 6 (http://download.microsoft.com/download/vb60pro/Redist/sp4/win98/EN-US/VBRun60sp4.exe)

[hellenes]

AAAAAAAAAAAArrg nothin happens the file is still unrecognisable and i installed the run time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
the fact is that id doesnt say application in the properties but just file... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Dragon2003]

Oh damn, i have run out of ideas. God Microsoft have to be difficult don't they. Why can't they just program a flawless OS, then they do not need to programming new OS's

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (Dragon2003 @ Sep. 16 2003,14:39)]Oh damn, i have run out of ideas. God Microsoft have to be difficult don't they. Why can't they just program a flawless OS, then they do not need to programming new OS's
Upload your current version to the Orgs BETA download area.

I'll then download it and have a play with it. Windows is not the most user friendly OS in the world - but I may recognise some potential problems.

[Shahed]

Hey what's the deal here ?

Is it out soon or is it like the patch, just w8 & w8 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

JUST KIDDDING http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Please let us know when the patch errrrr I mean RTW ahem well the camp mod program is out, is what I'm saying.

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[Lord Of Storms]

Bump Let's keep this current for now. LOS

[Dragon2003]

Well i have no homework today so i got a few hours of pure programming. I see no reason why it shouldn't be released tonight, but i will be uploading my demo (it has more 'pages' then the one i sent in the demo to the beta soon).

[Dragon2003]

OK, i have uploaded the beta and i am INCREDIBLY CLOSE to releasing the real thing

List of things left to do before i release:

1) Allow user to delete ownerships of regions.
2) Allow user to delete titles.
3) Allow user to set faction leader start province
4) Allow user to set all that rubbish below:

eg:
SetStartLeader:: FN_BYZANTINE 6 1 4 8 4 3 11 2 2
SetStartLeader:: FN_EGYPTIAN 4 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 SetStartLeader:: FN_ENGLISH 8 3 2 1 1 2 1 2 1

Can someone help me with this. What do the numbers mean?

5) Allow user to add/remove heirs
6) Allow user to add/remove units
7) Allow user to add/remove buildings
8) Allow user to add/remove agents

And i think that is it. This won't take me long

[Dragon2003]

Not long to wait. Im excited too Yes it is a VB app as thats more user friendly I am not sure it will work with STW, but i doubt it, but you never know I might just make one for STW and RTW as well

[Dragon2003]

YES Version 1.0 is released I have stored it in the BETA section as the program has not been finished yet Although it is not finished, the bits i need to finish are minor Try it now

[hellenes]

Ive tried it and IT WORKS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Probably the previous problem had to do smth with the email sending i dont know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif but who cares? IT WORKS NOW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Shahed]

Can we have a download link please ?
And does it work with VI ?

[Dragon2003]

Ok, here is the link:

CampEd v1 (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/TEST_CampEdv1..zip)

[_Martyr_]

Looks like a REALLY great utility m8 Well done. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Shahed]

Miss this tool at your own PERIL

This is amazing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[Lord Of Storms]

One cick modding at its best this is a good tool, lets see a VI version please http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Dragon2003]

I don't have VI I wish i did http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Alrowan]

well its quite a good tool indeed, though i was expecting a little more. Its still very hard to have your own custom maps, which is what i would really like to see an editor make use of. I know that is perhaps the hardest thing to do, but when someone does that, the possibilites are endless, by combinging this with the LMM maker, and creating whole new campagins should really make the most powerful tool to date

[sprucemoose]

Wow i say Wow

thats brilliant

excellent tool and easy to use ooooo errrrr

keep up the good work and make a VI version pretty please

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[LordKarolinger]

My salute to you for making modding possible to an iddiot like me.

[Gregoshi]

Pinning this topic for a while seems like a good thing to do. Pinned http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Al Shama'ar]

Dragon

maybe u should consider making it open source, so that
those who want to improve it (adding more functionalities)
and/or adapt it to VI, can have a go.

This is just a thought. I know it's really hard to let go
something like this.

Nevertheless, awesome job

congrats
Al

[Dragon2003]

I really think that releasing source code would help this a lot, but i am worried about pirates (ok ok, enough of the OohArgh me mateys ) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I have released source code before and unfortunately, people abused my kindness.
This project is hard work. I have had multiple OUT OF MEMORY problems now and it is just annoying me. I have ultimately decided to go down my origional route, and i am going to keep the editor simple... So that means no more will you be able to edit borders or whatever.

If you really want the desire to edit borders (and i cant see why you would) then you will have to edit it manually.
I'd like to end this on a good note and i want to thank Gregoshi for pinning this.
My website (http://uk.geocities.com/mole_mr/Index.html) is up and also the simple version is being released not far from now (maybe tomorrow).

[Scipio]

That is lookin very nice so this means you can make anyone playable? Isnt there a short amount you can make playable or else it crashes?

[Dragon2003]

Yes you can make any one playable. And if you edit some of the files in LOC\ENG folder then you will be able to rename factions But that is advanced stuff

[MILITARYMAN]

Hey this is just what im looking for i think?
The pics look cool and ill give it a go when its ready
Thanks guys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Dragon2003]

It might take a long time before its released as i am really busy. I am taking A-Level ICT early, and i havent finished my GCSE's yet, but it will defintely be out before mid october. And thats at the latest. If i start working hard now, i may even finish it today.

OH AND GOOD NEWS FOR EVERYONE

I bought Vikings Invasion and its brilliant. So this will be for VI YAY http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Dragon2003]

Well i wont be finishing it today I quickly get bored when i have had a days work at school, so i am going to play VI now. Don't worry. I havent abandoned the project http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[ChaosDrake]

hi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

uhm a dumb question is the current version compatible to viking invasion?

btw good job http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[brent_james]

I WOULD think that simply editing the text file is good enough, and that its not worth creating an editor for this. BUT, I think this would be really cool, because when I edit startpos files, when I make simple changes, with no spelling or syntax mistakes, it still makes my game crash often. Its frusturating (For example I'll change a province's income from 500 or 600, or whatever, and that will make my game 100x more likely to crash)

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (Dragon2003 @ Sep. 23 2003,12:47)]I really think that releasing source code would help this a lot, but i am worried about pirates (ok ok, enough of the OohArgh me mateys ) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I have released source code before and unfortunately, people abused my kindness.
I understand where you are coming from, but (IMHO) as this is merely a hobby group what exactly is the point in NOT providing source code.

I, for one, am certainly reluctant to install and use third party software IF the source code is not provided and it is from a source (person/company) that I'm not familiar with.

Pirates? Abuse? Kindness?

We, who try to provide such Adhoc utilities/tools for gaming communities, are only labouring under the same constraints as companies do. Iwould suggest us hobbyists have a lot less to lose from pirates or plagerism that such companies do. Also, what the hell's the point of providing such tools as a hobby IF you don't show equally interested parties (via source code) just how you've done it?

I would think a Licence, included in the download, should be sufficient. If people wish to copy your work then what can you do?

Just the way the world (er ... people) works ...

... unfortunately

[juststeve]

Dragon2003, would it be possible for you to offer a simple hyperlink for the file download? I keep my security settings on High, and I'm unable to get the file from that clickable button link. I didn't see this editor on the Org downloads - if it's there, could someone be so kind as to smack me in the head and tell me where it is? Thanks

[brent_james]

I don't see it in the http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/ folder now

[juststeve]

Quote[/b] (brent_james @ Oct. 22 2003,22:49)]I don't see it in the http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/ folder now
he has the file hosted on his own geocities site, which you can find here:
http://uk.geocities.com/mole_mr/Index.html

[brent_james]

Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Senlui]

where abouts on his website

[Sun Tzui]

Where is the editor? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Can't find it in either
Quote[/b] ] http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/ folder now or
Quote[/b] ]http://uk.geocities.com/mole_mr/Index.html?

Can you mail it to me pls?

Pls send to pjcm@tugamail.com

TXS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[TosaInu]

Are you looking for this:

http://www.mizus.com/Tools/Files/CampEdv1.zip ?

[Sun Tzui]

THANKS A MILLION TosaInu http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[LestaT]

Is there any chance i could get to install it by cd or anything ? Try modding before... never works... give up hope.. har har har...

[Sun Tzui]

Just tested it lastnight...ITS GREAT http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Only one thing went wrong...tried to play as pope, making each faction start only with one province, created no units (think it was my mistake), and the popes Knights unit (leader unit) appeared. Offcourse a rebbellion broke out on my 2 or 3 year, and when it came to the battle that unit appeared has allied (?). Needless to say I lost. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Must I define the leaders unit?

[Senlui]

when is v1.1 going to come out?

[NightHawkAOL]

This is really cool but i need a VI version of it as i have an idea for a campaign set in Britain using the VI map and VI units.

P.S. How you getting on with your A-Level IT coursework, i am doing A-Level IT as well and im finding it easy as hell.

P.P.S. you got msn? if you have then could you please e-mail your MSN ID to me

[Swoosh So]

Dragon did you notice that one of mtw's programmers asked for a beta of your prog?


Ill get it sooon i was dreaming about a campaign editor since the old shogun one :D

[The Programming Dragon]

Hi I am Dragon2003, but as a different username as i forgot my original one (and i now remember it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif )

I have started up the CampEd project again, even though i met great difficulty last time. I have learnt from my mistakes and am well underway. I am currently modding the Treasury part so - nearly there ;)

On my website (click the link on my signiture) i have included a modding tutorial, one of my campaigns Modern Warfare and a useful modding tool: Colour Maker.

Soon my CampEd will be up as well

[Gondin]

Hi I'm both new in the game and in the Forum, so forgive me if i'm posting a message not apropriate for this topic.

I don´t know if any of you have ever heard about the game Legend of the Five Rings. It´s an unique universe with a rich story, based on japonese-samurai age, created to be played as a Card Game, but has grown up to RPG products and else.

Anyway, the Total War engine would be perfect to be used in the to develop of a campaing mode or even an expansion pack run in this setting.

My question is: Is it possible to use your Campaing Mod to addapt the STW game so it can be played in the LOFR scenario? To do that we would need to change tha map and regions to the same as Rokugan (LOFR world), change the factions to the clans from the game (Lion, Dragon, Crab...), and make so minor changes to characters names so it would match those in the Card Game.

What do you think?

[The Programming Dragon]

Yay I am proud to announce the soon arrival of CampEd beta I just need to squash out the remaining bugs (hopefully with the help of the total war public) and then i will release this cool program for real (with extra features that i didnt add this time)

[Gregoshi]

Unpinned - see the new topic on the Campaign Editor now pinned in this forum.