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[Devastatin Dave]

Howdy.... Just seein if I can still post somewhere. Got a little drunk and got tossed out of the Tavern. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif For all those who haven't been in there yet, you're not missing much. Just a bunch of antiAmerican socialist pigs. But, I'm sure there is plenty of that in here as well. Well you can all tea bag me as well I'm your new God Bow and worship...well, time to have another drink

God bless America and God Bless George Bush

[Tony]

Hi Dave,

I don't mean to be rude, but you might want to put the keyboard out of reach while enjoying the effects of liquid refreshment. Comments on teabagging - (and yes, I do know what it means) and politics do not add much value to the discussion on MTW.

Just my 2 cents.

[Devastatin Dave]

Quote[/b] (Tony @ Sep. 18 2003,21:34)]Hi Dave,

I don't mean to be rude, but you might want to put the keyboard out of reach while enjoying the effects of liquid refreshment. Comments on teabagging - (and yes, I do know what it means) and politics do not add much value to the discussion on MTW.

Just my 2 cents.
You're right, I'm going to go sleep it off. I've been driinking to much lately. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Sigurd]

So, this is were the 'cat' dragged you.
I hope you get well soon and return to the Tavern without those cards. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[_Martyr_]

Ah Dave, good to see you are still alive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Stay away from that whiskey http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Lehesu]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Ser Clegane]

OMG, Dave - what happened to you? I have only been a couple of days out of the country and when I come back I see that they put you in the EH to sober...

What the heck did you do?

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (Ser Clegane @ Sep. 20 2003,12:12)]What the heck did you do?
I have been in The Tavern but I think I must have missed whatever got him booted...

[_Martyr_]

Dave got a little carried away and said a few things that offended a lot of people.

[katar]

it`s very rare for humans to get foot and mouth disease, but it does happen from time to time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (_Martyr_ @ Sep. 20 2003,09:21)]Dave got a little carried away and said a few things that offended a lot of people.
yes, we would never want to offend anyone (except for conservatives and republican preisdents and religous people of course http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ) but whatever you do, don't offend the French But bash America all you want

[_Martyr_]

Come on now Teutonic Knight, dont be flippant

Dave went way too far and it got really nasty, if someone said anything half as venomous against America/Christianity/Idiots http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif in such a blatantly offensive manner, then I would expect them to get the same as Dave.

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ Sep. 21 2003,09:05)]
Quote[/b] (_Martyr_ @ Sep. 20 2003,09:21)]Dave got a little carried away and said a few things that offended a lot of people.
yes, we would never want to offend anyone (except for conservatives and republican preisdents and religous people of course http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ) but whatever you do, don't offend the French But bash America all you want

I initially chose not to reply to this thread, as it defeats the purpose if one chooses to continue arguments originating from The Tavern, to the Entrance Hall.

It just, IMO, defeats the object of having seperate and distinct forums.

I hope Dave can rapidly re-appraise the manner of his contributions to The Tavern - as I similarly had to do 6 months ago - because he has been a long standing member and adversary and, after all, we all have RL issues that effect our rationality.

I remember it's not so long ago (7 months? ) that most regular paricipants in The Tavern chose to congragulate Dave on the birth of his first child - regardless of their poilitical affiliations. That says something.

However, Dave aside, I also hope TK that one day you may understand that any percieved America bashing that may strike you as being precipitated by left-wing radical Europeans, who wish to see the demise of the USA, is just as unrealistic as the arguments defending people who get banned from The Tavern because, simply speaking, they went over the line on more than 1 occasion.

Many of us learn by our own mistakes. Some also learn as a result of the opinions of others - that may not initially be entirely condusive to ones own. I would, however, sincerely hope that many individuals learn as a result of finding their views may represent a small, and perhaps out-of-touch, minority that fails to appreciate that the arguments of others are not necessarily construed to deride anyone but rather to illuminate the rather small world in which many of us choose to reside.

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (_Martyr_ @ Sep. 21 2003,16:41)]Come on now Teutonic Knight, dont be flippant

Dave went way too far and it got really , if someone said anything half as venomous against America/Christianity/Idiots http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif in such a blatantly offensive manner, then I would expect them to get the same as Dave.
oh come on, I was only kidding. It just seems that sometimes anti-Americanism is turned a blind eye to, but when someone offends a European group, then there is an uproar of flaming and name-calling and accusations....

I do agree that such behavior from both sides is unacceptable, as was Dave's...

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Wellington @ Sep. 21 2003,17:35)]However, Dave aside, I also hope TK that one day you may understand that any percieved America bashing that may strike you as being precipitated by left-wing radical Europeans, who wish to see the demise of the USA, is just as unrealistic as the arguments defending people who get banned from The Tavern because, simply speaking, they went over the line on more than 1 occasion.
I don't think it's unrealistic to think that there are people (in the European left and elswhere) who would not mind (if not celebrate) if North America suddenly sank into the ocean...

there is genuine htred in some minds for my country and I am well aware of this, and I would encourage anyone who is not to open their eyes....

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ Sep. 21 2003,17:52)]there is genuine htred in some minds for my country and I am well aware of this, and I would encourage anyone who is not to open their eyes....
Ever heard the phrase in the eye of the beholder?

[Portuguese Rebel]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ Sep. 21 2003,17:52)]
Quote[/b] (Wellington @ Sep. 21 2003,17:35)]However, Dave aside, I also hope TK that one day you may understand that any percieved America bashing that may strike you as being precipitated by left-wing radical Europeans, who wish to see the demise of the USA, is just as unrealistic as the arguments defending people who get banned from The Tavern because, simply speaking, they went over the line on more than 1 occasion.
I don't think it's unrealistic to think that there are people (in the European left and elswhere) who would not mind (if not celebrate) if North America suddenly sank into the ocean...

there is genuine htred in some minds for my country and I am well aware of this, and I would encourage anyone who is not to open their eyes....
What? No more Coca-Cola and Playboy magazine? that would be a great loss to the world TK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Then we, the rest of the world, would have no one to badmouth and would have to resume fighting amongst ourselves. In this perspective America plays a very important role http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Devastatin Dave]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Feel the love....

[katar]

Quote[/b] ]but when someone offends a European group, then there is an uproar of flaming and name-calling and accusations....

that`s because we Europeans have had a couple of thousand years practice at slagging off and killing each other http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

while Americans have only been at it for a little over three hundred, you just need a bit more practice. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Quid]

Well spoken katar... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .

I hear lots of Anti-American sentiment over here in Switzerland too most of which wholly unfounded, to be honest. In in all frankness, I have been known to have a go at them as well at times...but you know, once you're done with the Germans...what else is there http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ?

There are as many idiots in America as there are in Switzerland or anywhere else in the world, for that matter (propotionally, that is) but who as a citizen of their country would slag off their own people ? We would have to find our own mistakes and wrong-doings ? No one can expect us to really do that...can they http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif?

Quid

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (quid @ Sep. 22 2003,03:32)]...but you know, once you're done with the Germans...what else is there http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ?
Er ... the French? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[A.Saturnus]

We have lots of good discussions here in the Entrance Hall, Dave, your well-known sensible way of dialectic argumentation may be appreciated there http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I hope you realize your behaviour was inacceptable. On the other hand, we all should more often think carefully if what we say might not unnecessarily provoke others. One of my last sigs was an example for this. While I still think its meaning correct, it may have been a thorn to some members and I apologize for it.

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Portuguese Rebel @ Sep. 21 2003,20:27)]
Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ Sep. 21 2003,17:52)]
Quote[/b] (Wellington @ Sep. 21 2003,17:35)]However, Dave aside, I also hope TK that one day you may understand that any percieved America bashing that may strike you as being precipitated by left-wing radical Europeans, who wish to see the demise of the USA, is just as unrealistic as the arguments defending people who get banned from The Tavern because, simply speaking, they went over the line on more than 1 occasion.
I don't think it's unrealistic to think that there are people (in the European left and elswhere) who would not mind (if not celebrate) if North America suddenly sank into the ocean...

there is genuine htred in some minds for my country and I am well aware of this, and I would encourage anyone who is not to open their eyes....
What? No more Coca-Cola and magazine? that would be a great loss to the world TK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Then we, the rest of the world, would have no one to badmouth and would have to resume fighting amongst ourselves. In this perspective America plays a very important role http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
gah, you people...... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Devastatin Dave]

It was nice of you Tavern folks to come out and see me. My ass still hurts from hitting the sidewalk outside the Tavern. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I went over the top, but I had bitten my tongue long enough so I let it all out at once, ok, maybe twice. I hate to say it, but it was worth it in a way. Now I can take a break from reading how white, christian, conservative males have destroyed everything in society. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[katar]

Quote[/b] ]Now I can take a break from reading how white, christian, conservative males have destroyed everything in society.

don`t keep us on tender hooks here, what`s the punchline http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Ser Clegane]

Quote[/b] (daveinkorea @ Sep. 22 2003,10:23)]Now I can take a break from reading how white, christian, conservative males have destroyed everything in society. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
We might from time to time PM you some of the more revolutionary and radical views on this, to ease the withdrawal ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

BTW, I just read the post that got you banned http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

I have to admit I was wondering what drug you were on when you posted that (even for what we are used from you that was way beyond acceptable)... or was is some kind of primal scream therapy?

Hope to see you returning to the Tavern at some point http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (daveinkorea @ Sep. 22 2003,10:23)]My ass still hurts ...
Must be a result of all that tea-bagging your so fond of ...

... one thing leads to another http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Devastatin Dave]

Quote[/b] (Wellington @ Sep. 22 2003,11:41)]
Quote[/b] (daveinkorea @ Sep. 22 2003,10:23)]My ass still hurts ...
Must be a result of all that tea-bagging your so fond of ...

... one thing leads to another http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
Gotta love the teabag Sorry Ser, i did go over the top, but I had enough and went for the gold...
I don't think after all I said I'll ever get back in the Tavern, but it was fun while it lasted.
Here's a little Daveinkorea logic for the day....

With all the criticisms and belly aching of the war in Iraq, I've yet to hear a different policy that would actually WORK in upholding the UN's resolutions against Iraq. Oh well, there I go being all logical again.
Another thing, I haven't seen any buildings being hit by planes, suicide bombers blowing up anything in America, or chem, bio, or nuclear attacks in the US since 9-11. Bush gets my vote before any on the demo ticket. God help this country if any of those democrates get the house next year. The we will look like the rest of the world, and I con't want that. I prefer to stay soveriegn. God damn I hate this flood control shit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Dhepee]

Quote[/b] (daveinkorea @ Sep. 22 2003,14:43)]Sorry Ser, i did go over the top, but I had enough and went for the gold...
I don't think after all I said I'll ever get back in the Tavern, but it was fun while it lasted.
Ahh...the pride of the transgressor.




No you haven't seen any planes hit building since 9/11 but then again how often did you see it before 9/11? The terrorists hit us once in 93' with the first wtc bombing and again 8 years later, 9/11. And how active have terrorists been since 9/11? About as active as they were before, the Bali bombings, bombings in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, planned bombings in Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. So nothing has really changed, at least as far as anyone can prove. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Dave??? Banned to the EH??? I thought it had been awfully quiet in the Tavern recently. Conspiracy theories aside ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif ), let me encourage you to lay off the booze, pull it together, and earn your way back to the ole Tavern. Really I think the libbies depend on your pithy comments to enable that certain level of frustrated rage that exudes from so many of their posts. Believe me the quality of argument has most definitely not improved since you left.

Seriously though, maybe you should take a week or two of from visiting us and then come back. Be strong m8

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

doesnt help that ive lost all interest in arguing with for lack of a better word..... cunts.


probably wont post mutch more....

well until rtw comes out of course but even then i dont think ill go back into the tavern where the members say every1 should be equal but as soon as you disagree your a war mongering bloodthirsty imoral evil person.

and before

Grizzly
Idaho
rasforos
and the other bunch flame this or even just qoute it go count the amount of america sucks/britian sucks threads and compare that to the amount of threads created about other european/asian/middleeast nations made by the same members.

about 13-0 i belive.

[Lehesu]

We are all hardly objective observers.

[Gregoshi]

dave: you'll be re-instated to the Taven when we are convinced you won't start a flame fest the moment you return. Reading some of your other posts here in the EH tells me you aren't ready yet. Until you let go of this monster inside your head, you won't be ready. dave, it just isn't worth the aggrivation. Stop wasting your emotional energy on the negative ranting here in these forums and re-direct it positively towards your wife, your son and your country. You and they will be better off for it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Not that I want to see you go, but if the content in these forums bothers you so, what keeps bringing you back? Does the good stuff outweigh the bad? Those are the questions you need to answer to yourself. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

K_Y, you keep saying you're leaving until RTW comes out, but... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Oh, and last thing: let's watch the language - it is getting a bit colourful in here.

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Jacque Schtrapp @ Sep. 22 2003,15:53)]Dave??? Banned to the EH??? I thought it had been awfully quiet in the Tavern recently. Conspiracy theories aside ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif ), let me encourage you to lay off the booze, pull it together, and earn your way back to the ole Tavern. Really I think the libbies depend on your pithy comments to enable that certain level of frustrated rage that exudes from so many of their posts. Believe me the quality of argument has most definitely not improved since you left.

Seriously though, maybe you should take a week or two of from visiting us and then come back. Be strong m8

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
so sad, our fallen comrade http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Portuguese Rebel]

Quote[/b] (Knight_Yellow @ Sep. 22 2003,16:39)]doesnt help that ive lost all interest in arguing with for lack of a better word..... cunts.


probably wont post mutch more....

well until rtw comes out of course but even then i dont think ill go back into the tavern where the members say every1 should be equal but as soon as you disagree your a war mongering bloodthirsty imoral evil person.

and before

Grizzly
Idaho
rasforos
and the other bunch flame this or even just qoute it go count the amount of america sucks/britian sucks threads and compare that to the amount of threads created about other european/asian/middleeast nations made by the same members.

about 13-0 i belive.
Dam, you forgot me... all that work and i don't even get mentioned... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Devastatin Dave]

Quote[/b] (Portuguese Rebel @ Sep. 23 2003,08:28)]Dam, you forgot me... all that work and i don't even get mentioned... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
I didn't forget you http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[rory_20_uk]

Dave, is there any chance that you might like to do the ultimate and die for your country? GOD BLESS AMERICA (etc etc etc). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (rory_20_uk @ Sep. 23 2003,11:17)]Dave, is there any chance that you might like to do the ultimate and die for your country? GOD BLESS AMERICA (etc etc etc). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
indeed

[katar]

Quote[/b] ]Dave, is there any chance that you might like to do the ultimate and die for your country?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif better to get the enemy to die for theirs

it`s usually less painful that way. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Gregoshi]

This topic is heading nowhere. It has served its purpose (letting off some steam) but I see nothing useful coming out of it anymore so it is now closed.

In light of the high(er) tensions around here as of late, it would be in your best interests to exercise discretion when doling out humour to those on the opposite side of the argument from you. What may have been funny to all months ago, may not be interpreted the same way today - even with a http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif attached.