cav

[MizuKokami]

are there any anti-cav cav units in this game?

[Hurin_Rules]

Camel units cause fear to horses, but in my experience they still pretty much suck.

[CBR]

Camels and maybe you could say cavalry with armour piercing weapons? They will get +2 attack versus chiv knights and +3 versus Lancers because of that.

CBR

[squippy]

Maybe the Druzhina. I've not used them extensively but they chopped some Byz Kats to tiny chunks when I hired them as mercenaries. They have AP and come in a larger unit size than the truly heavy cav, I think.

[Fragony]

Camels, Druzhina cavalry, Mamluk cavalry and the absolute king (although a bit slow) Gothic Knights. Camels because they cause fear to horses(they are close to useless when not in the desert, let them have fun with crusaders), and the other 3 have an anti armour bonus. Any of these units will spank a chivalric knight unit when deployed correctly.

[Vanya]

GAH

Vanya sez... Sure there are Any kinigit unit will kill other cav

Vanya's Best of the Best list:
1. Best anti-cav: Lancer. No other cav can beat it 1-on-1.
2. Best poor man's anti-cav: Camel.
3. Best chaser of broken unit: Saharan cav.
4. Best dispenser of tweeds: Berber Camel. AND they also anti-cav

GAH

[Cebei]

I would suggest swiss armored pikemen. But you still need something to flank it. Turcoman horse is suprisingly a cavalry killer with its arrow fire. I wonder whether they get +1 defence against cavalry when defending with arrow fire.

Halberds are excellent medium cavalry massacerer. but better cavalry will beat them.

I think spear class units in general are anti-cav.

Druzhinas are horrible by the way. Send them against heavily armored foot units (gothic FK).

[Cebei]

Clarification: horrible means good. wrong word usage. Druzhinas are good...very good.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif What does GAH mean by the way? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Kanuni]

JHI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[ichi]

Quote[/b] (MizuKokami @ Sep. 28 2003,22:35)]are there any anti-cav cav units in this game?
Mamluk Cav have armor piercing, as do Gothic Knights. Lancers are the Cadillacs of Cavalry, and are outstanding against most other Cav (and inf too).

Mamluk are best anticav cav in desert, Gothics best overall.

Use camels against cav.

Boyars, Szekely, and Byz Cav can all shoot and run. If the heavier cav give chase, keep running and shooting until you are on a steep slope and the heavy cav is tired, then turn and charge downhill.

GAH is not directly translatable into any known language, although Vanya can tell you it is extremely useful phrase.

GAH

ichiRW

[Hamburglar]

Quote[/b] (Vanya @ Sep. 29 2003,10:07)]GAH

Vanya sez... Sure there are Any kinigit unit will kill other cav

Vanya's Best of the Best list:
1. Best anti-cav: Lancer. No other cav can beat it 1-on-1.
2. Best poor man's anti-cav: Camel.
3. Best chaser of broken unit: Saharan cav.
4. Best dispenser of tweeds: Berber Camel. AND they also anti-cav

GAH
Vanya:

While Lancers are all around generally better cav, Gothic Knights will beat Lancers with their Armour Piercing power.

[Saki]

Best cav killer is a unit of trees http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif (not very good at chasing routers tho )


Spears tend to be cav hold da uppers rather than killers, dending what cav and spear unit is invovled.


I always thought Goth knights where the king pin but somone mentioned Lancers so im not to sure who is top dog.Will have to do a custom test now.

[katar]

Quote[/b] ]Best cav killer is a unit of trees

i like my trees to be mixed in with lots of longbows and a few catapults. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

best deterent around. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif