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GAH
Vanya sez... would youz like to see PIRATES as a factor in RTW? If so, how? And, does CA/Activision plan on having pirate ships in ze game?
Vote now
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Barkhorn1x
10-07-2003, 17:40
Pirates were a real force to be reckoned w/ in the Mediterranean during this period (at least until Pompeii cleaned 'em up). So, yes - they should be included.
Barkhorn.
Leet Eriksson
10-07-2003, 18:04
I'd like to see privateers,if they existed,at least we can employ them to attack and thin the enemies ships without declaring wars.It would have been awesome if it was possible in MTW,becuase the Byzantines are almost undefeatable when going to war with them(thanks to those ships they swamp the map with http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Also if it was implemented in RTW,I HOPE,it won't mess my punic war scenarios(i don't want to see my stupid fleet getting wasted by a handful of pirates before engaging the carthaginians http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif).
As long a single pirate ship doesn't disrupt all my economy...
Quote[/b] (faisal @ Oct. 07 2003,18:04)]I'd like to see privateers,if they existed,at least we can employ them to attack and thin the enemies ships without declaring wars.It would have been awesome if it was possible in MTW,becuase the Byzantines are almost undefeatable when going to war with them(thanks to those ships they swamp the map with http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Also if it was implemented in RTW,I HOPE,it won't mess my punic war scenarios(i don't want to see my stupid fleet getting wasted by a handful of pirates before engaging the carthaginians http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif).
I think it will take careful balancing.
It would be nice to be able to bribe the pirates to attack your enemy without declaring war, I like that one. Give the senate some grief without lossing face http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Also if you are fairly dominating the sea lanes it ensures you need to keep your ships protected especially when transporting troops.
I wonder if when you defeat a strong sea going nation then some of them will become pirates and raid your ships?
I vote for the first option, but hell, the third must be included too.
shingenmitch2
10-08-2003, 16:46
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Pirates were a real issue of this period, so they should be in there...
but I fear the "cool" factor will be just to hard for the designers from avoiding having "Skeletal Ghostships" and the dreaded "Blackbeard Wargalleon" sailed by "Scurvey Knaves" equipped with sabers, muskets and pantaloons....
Quote[/b] ]As long a single pirate ship doesn't disrupt all my economy...
Why take that out I thought that was one of the few historical aspects of the game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
If you read the org fact obout rtw it says that pirates will be in it 2nd paragraph 1st question
bhutavarna
10-09-2003, 21:15
i like pirates. it reminds me of those from asterix.
rofl http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
I hope RTW will not remember us of this http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Intrepid Sidekick
10-13-2003, 16:21
Yup there are pirate ships.
They will effect trade routes and try to sink shipping.
You will need to build a navy to deal with them.
Intrepid Sidekick
~ Ca Staff ~
bighairyman
10-21-2003, 04:00
yeah http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
i love pirates, can u have the ability to bribe pirates?
It was stated somewhere that you do.
The Wizard
10-21-2003, 10:05
Arr, now that be a good idea if I ever heard one, laddie. I be likin' it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
YARRGH
Quote[/b] (Intrepid Sidekick @ Oct. 13 2003,10:21)]Yup there are pirate ships.
They will effect trade routes and try to sink shipping.
You will need to build a navy to deal with them.
Intrepid Sidekick
~ Ca Staff ~
Thanks Intrepid Sidekick
Dwimmerlaik
10-22-2003, 13:07
Heeeheee... "I have a sinking feeling"....glubglubglub... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Orda Khan
10-22-2003, 20:18
We have rebels, why not pirates as well.....
.....Orda
Exzactly Orda this will greatly inhance the game for me I mean i like chanlenges In my game
The Wizard
10-24-2003, 13:34
But can we play as pirates? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Sjakihata
10-25-2003, 16:33
anyone played EU2 ? there's pirates, you can hire them to attack your enemies without to DoW him.
Quote[/b] (Sjakihata @ Oct. 25 2003,18:33)]anyone played EU2 ? there's pirates, you can hire them to attack your enemies without to DoW him.
Btw, Crusader Kings is coming out http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I'm gonna do some battle.
Voigtkampf
12-22-2003, 22:28
I suspected as much; CA will make this one go all the way. Thanks, Intrepid Sidekick, for confirming this beauty. Though I don't believe one should add the possibilities of building privateers, due to the danger that no one will build regular ships anymore and keep avoiding war by attacking with these "irregular" ships. If allowed to build then the player should be able to build only a rather small class of privateers, all for the sake of the game balance.
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ Dec. 22 2003,22:28)]I suspected as much; CA will make this one go all the way. Thanks, Intrepid Sidekick, for confirming this beauty. Though I don't believe one should add the possibilities of building privateers, due to the danger that no one will build regular ships anymore and keep avoiding war by attacking with these "irregular" ships. If allowed to build then the player should be able to build only a rather small class of privateers, all for the sake of the game balance.
Agreed. The should be only a limited amount of pirates, and they shouldn't be that effective. Remember, ships are expenisve, so pirates prefered to use small boats to enter ships that weren't really a danger. The only pirates that were really dangerous were those of "military" ships of which the crew had rebbeled.
You only want to become pirate if it is the only option: you lose your (political) career, unless you are very lucky it doesn't gain you much and there is a very real risk of being killed.
Somebody Else
12-23-2003, 19:40
Sextus Pompey - son of Magnus - was piratical - he and his not inconsiderable fleet caused problems with Rome's grain supply. Of course, I don't think he ever got to be powerful within Rome. I think he was killed by Julius, though I'm not sure. But he tried for power.
Quote[/b] (bhutavarna @ Oct. 09 2003,15:15)]i like pirates. it reminds me of those from asterix.
rofl http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
im pretty sure the people in asterix were gauls ^^
Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-27-2003, 01:06
Quote[/b] ]im pretty sure the people in asterix were gauls ^^
Who always encountered the same pirates on their voyages across the English Channel and Mediterranean... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
ahhh it all makes sense now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
bighairyman
12-29-2003, 23:08
Whenever a faction gets killed. all thier troops turn rebels but thier ships disappear http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
i think those ships should turn into pirates. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/handball.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/handball.gif
Voigtkampf
12-30-2003, 09:02
Quote[/b] ]i think those ships should turn into pirates.
Or mercenaries.
The Wizard
12-30-2003, 14:02
I think we should have a pirate faction. Arr, me mateys Shiver me timbers, let's go a-raidin' Har har har http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
GAH Where Jack Sparrow goes, Sinan shall shadow, like a CURSE GAH
The Wizard
01-01-2004, 00:54
Do we get ghost ships as well? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Quote[/b] (Wizzy @ Dec. 31 2003,17:54)]Do we get ghost ships as well? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-joker.gif
GAH
Only if pilated by the undead. So if Vanya is your captain, then ghost ship it be, matey
GAH
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