mongol cav

[DeadRunner]

sometimes i have the sense that mongol heavy cav is better then the others heavy cav.
mongol Light cav is superior then the other archers cav ??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yes the mongol cavalry is vastly superior to the japanese cavalry.

[Oaty]

Shinano has it right and IMHO the mongol infantry suck

[Orda Khan]

Mongol Cav is superior to Japanese, yes but Oaty, do you really think the Korean auxiliaries are that bad?
Do you refer to Multi/Custom battles or SP?
If you mean MP then I suspect you spend your koku unwisely. The Mongol units are expensive and koku for koku you cannot upgrade them like you can the Japanese units.........But their cav is much better, right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ......So spend your koku on your infantry http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
In single play I would not agree with your statement. Used well, the Skirmishers can be devastating....ask Tosa to demonstrate their ability http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif . Heh, Thunder Bombers...not a lot you can say about these guys. Some can use them well, mine always have suicidal tendencies and they also like to take some friends with them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif
Another very important factor is the stats you use. On v1.02 you get 48 men in Mongol cav units. If you use 103 or 105 mods they are 60. In 103 you will have a hard time winning with Mongols ( it can be done http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) and then there's 105, a mod made by Toda intended to make Mongol v Japanese a more popular game choice. 105 Mongols are very nasty but the Japanese have had a few tweaks as well...Riotous fun
I've never understood why Mongol battles are not hosted more....silly me of course I understand.....NO GUNS

........Orda

[Togakure]

Hmmm ... hadn't considered that: no damn gaijin guns in the Mongol era. Look's like I'm gonna hafta give v1.05 a look.

Yes, those nasty little skirmishers, indeed. Take THAT, you nasty cav rushers ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Orda Khan]

Yep....I've seen them rout Cavalry in seconds. Be careful of that 105 Mod...Thunder Bombers have 40 men instead of 20. I used them against Jochi's Japanese a few nights back.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif My Korean spear unit nearby was reduced to 8 men and promptly ran away http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

....Orda

[Wavesword]

Where can I find this mysterious patch 1.05? I haven't seen it in the org's download section.

[DeadRunner]

i have bad luck when using thunder bombers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif many times i see they killing foe and friends http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

[Orda Khan]

Home of the Masterless have the statswapper and 105 Mod available for download

.........Orda

[Wavesword]

Thank you