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Is 5 the highest rating an assasin can become? I hate using them once they've got that high because they usually die for some stupid little general when I had a 97% chance of succeding but I save them for the pope. In my current game I've been excommunicated twice and each time, (once I've finished taking out the christians http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) I assasinate the pope and bingo, no more crusades come at me. However, my assain was a 5 rating before he went for them. He's still level 5. Has anyone had higher or is it like that purposefully to prevent armies of assasins annihilating entire factions?
NewJeffCT
10-21-2003, 20:13
I'm not sure, but I *think* I have seen a 6 star assassin... I know I have seen 6 star spies that get built up just hanging around in Scotland or Norway.
Snowhobbit
10-22-2003, 11:10
My best is five stars, and thats with a hero
I think that they can get as high as nine stars, but thats just my two cents.
I have had several inquisitors with seven stars.
I guess the maximum is the same for assassins but much difficult to reach since for them failure means death.
Skidrowpunk
10-22-2003, 14:07
If you take Syria and build a Tavern you get two stars assassins when you create one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif. Upgrade all the way to a Rookery (Fortress required) you get five stars http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.
Imagine if you have one assissin running around the world killing everyone you see. A 9 star uberkiller is a scary thought. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
Snowhobbit
10-22-2003, 14:38
Your wrong, in syria you can get a four star assasin... not five
Quote[/b] ]I guess the maximum is the same for assassins but much difficult to reach since for them failure means death.
Good point. It's early on in the game yet though, I'll see what I can do to find out [where's an evil emot when you need one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ]
Revenant69
10-22-2003, 23:20
Personally ihave had many 7 star assassins. The key to having such specialist agents of ddoom is of course Syria. By fully upgrading teh facilities there you can get 5 star assassins (not four as people say here) coming out from training.
Through the years some of your assassins will survive and achieve 7 stars. Simple as that.
I wonder if it is possible to get an 8 star assassin or 9, for that matter, as it is the max for generals.
Cheers,
Rev
in my current game as sicilians, year 1166, i have an 8-star assasin. took quite a while to get there but i made it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif BUWAHAHAHAHA
the trick is to train em REALLY EARLY, go after emmissaries(sp?) then eventually 1star generals then 2,3,4, etc http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif never go above what your assasin is... ie: if you have a 3star assasin never go above 3 star generals.
sadly i dont have much luck with inquisitors http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif too much work, the highest i got with inquisitors is being spanish and having a 5 star one.
Rocket_Boy
10-23-2003, 10:10
[QUOTE}Your wrong, in syria you can get a four star assasin... not five[/QUOTE]
Nope, definately 5-stars, Syria appears to give a 2 star bonus to assassins. Very much worth taking for this fact alone, although it can get a little bit cheap.
It may actually have some basis in history as there was a region of the Middle East that produced legendary assassins who were controlled by a guy known as 'the old man of the mountain'. Don't know if it fell in the MTW timescale though. Can anyone comment further about this?
el_slapper
10-23-2003, 15:09
It took me ages to raise an assassin to level 7, once. Remember that each new star requires the DOUBLE amount of work before happening.
True. What I hadn't remembered was that the emmissary I annihilated to get to 5 stars was 4 stars and the two popes I killed since were 1 and 0 star. I guess I've still got about 8 popes to kill then http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Kristaps
10-23-2003, 19:29
don't border forts now kill the high star assassins as effectively as no-star assassins? i.e., i've seen border forts kill 3 star spies and assassins in hordes...
so what's the point of training a high-star assassin if he's doomed the first time he runs after somebody into a province with border forts.
heh, thats why i send an emissary 1st to check the area http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
or send in multiple assasins. that way the lowest ranking assasin will get caught.
btw: yes there is an "old man in the mountain" event in mtv, cant remember the specific date but it happens
The word ‘Assassin’ is understood to be a corruption of the Arabic term ‘hashshashin’ -- the name given to the breakaway Isma’eli cult from orthodox shia. ‘Hashish is an ‘Arabic word for grass or weed and thus ‘Hashishin’ means ‘users of hashish’. I think they broke away at disgust with the murder of six Imams in Shiah Iran (Isma’el being one of the imams murdered by the ‘Arab rulers of that time)
Marco Polo in his book “Travels in Asia” writes the following words: “Their leader, ‘The Old Man of the Mountain’, dwelled in a most noble valley shut in between two very high mountains where he had made the largest garden and the most beautiful that was ever seen in this world. There were set to dwell ladies and damsels that were the most beautiful. Their duty was to furnish the young men who were put there with all delights and pleasures. And into this garden entered no man except only those base men of evil life whom he wished to make satellites and Assassins.” It is believed that it was Marco Polo who introduced the word “assassin” to Italian word for professional killers, a concept that preceded the concept of mafia.
Derived from the ‘Arabic word for hashish, the ‘Hashishin were originally an order established by Hassan Sabah, named the 'Old Man of the Mountain', who belonged to a branch of Shi’ah Islam called Nizari Isma’eli. He chose the fortress of Alamut in 1090 as his base for a revolt against the ‘Arab Turkic Seljuq rulers of Persia.
The way the ‘Hashishin were recruited was very extraordinarily. They were reportedly drugged with hashish, then taken into a paradisal garden where they ate plenteous fruits and were serenaded by beautiful women. After having seen the head of a man displayed on a plate on the ground, and then later, by some magical trickery, this “beheaded” man would join them, they would thus be easily convinced -- once the drug's effects had worn off, and they had woken up from a long deep sleep -- that they had indeed been to paradise, and witnessed the resurrection of the dead. When told that what they had tasted on this occasion would be theirs for eternity in heaven should they die in the course of one of their deadly missions, they, thus as expected, showed no fear of death. “So loyal were his followers”, writes the 13th century bishop of Acre, James of Vitry, that they would, on command, perform the ‘death-leap’ from the castle walls and shatter their skulls below.” Marco Polo, similarly, claims that Hassan Sabah drugged his would-be apprentice hit-men, transported them into a beautiful garden and exquisite women that posed as Paradise and promised them everlasting bliss on completion of their mission.
Although thier citadel of Alamut were ravaged by the mongols in 1250 odd- today the Isma'ili's still exist under the guidance of their spirital leader the Aga Khan (who i think lives in Paris). What's interesting though is that today the Isma'eli's beliefs are totally the opposite of the sparse monastic almost fanatic lifestyles of their pre-decesssors.
dr_no
Quote[/b] ]The way the ‘Hashishin were recruited was very extraordinarily. They were reportedly drugged with hashish, then taken into a paradisal garden where they ate plenteous fruits and were serenaded by beautiful women. After having seen the head of a man displayed on a plate on the ground, and then later, by some magical trickery, this “beheaded” man would join them, they would thus be easily convinced -- once the drug's effects had worn off, and they had woken up from a long deep sleep -- that they had indeed been to paradise, and witnessed the resurrection of the dead. When told that what they had tasted on this occasion would be theirs for eternity in heaven should they die in the course of one of their deadly missions, they, thus as expected, showed no fear of death.Devious stuff http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
A very interesting read but some of those words were giving me trouble http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif How are you supposed to pronounce Seljuq http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
easy really
seljuq-- 'Sell Juk'
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remember seeing a mod where you could play as them
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