Honour?

[Kocmoc]

hi guys,

first my thank to EliteofIMPerator and EliteofBuddy, the rustys, Bronco, our wolves, tank, tenkis and all the other guys who joined mag and me...

but tonight i got pissed off!!!

well, i dont name names...

but some guys makes me ill, if they dont want to play us, coz they fear to lose theyr honour, they should say this!!!

We repect this, we respect that there are guys who play just friendlys.

but if such guys start to lie, coz they dont like us http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif...but the game before they joined us (or just 1, dunno they was undercover) ...hmmm than i miss the point...

plz enlight me, first u join, than u tell us u wont play us?!?!

well, we are not idiots! this night u lost my repect...

ur very sad kocmoc

[MagyarKhans Cham]

They just hate your Khan, Orlok Koc and there is a thin line between love and hate.

Many players suggest they have a lot of honour, but we all know which ones shows it on the battlefield and play open games and accept challenges and fight unconditionally.

Please calm down my Orlok, we have faced greater threats than a bunch of dreads.

and now you know why our Khan hates friendlies.

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[Magyar Khan]

Dear Orlok Kocmoc

thats the negative side of friendly games yes. Dareal got a phone and start opening doors for friends during the game while he pressed the attack button. I am sure he wouldnt do that when it was a comp game, his killratio was 300 vs 900, even a newbee would do better http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

but ur right it was a display of sadness as i havent seen since the hard days I had with your friend Sp00n. Respect towards each other made Sp00n a m8. And with this knowledge i have the feeling that the mentioned clan will find the right path again.

I am aware that i am rude and arrogant, but a little compassion from the ones i approached in full rudeness is appreciated. You could hardly imagine how many rubbish i have to face as a topplayer and clanleader of the community most feared clan.

And an advice to some of you all, try to convert jealousy into respect for your enemy. It will benefit u and the clan you represent in the end.

And my dearest Chammy, try to keep yourself focused on galloping mesages around and limit your own opinions http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif and expect the moderators to edit your post. Naming honourable clans is just a bad thing to do.

Good day Wolves

RUM UND ERE

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[Rath]

Cheer up Koc.

Be interesting if u were drawn to play them in the 2v2 tourney...

[Kocmoc]

we are 1 clan, they cant pick just 1 member!!

if they attack 1 they attack all, like the musketiers http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

1 for all, all for 1...

they attacked u so they attacked me as well...

i know im a bit sensibe, hmmm...but thats me...coz i never would do or say such things
im here to have fun and get the best challange we can fight and if this means we lose games....very good... i better lose pretty good battles as win easy fights...

koc

[Shoko]

These things will also happen Kocmoc http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif
U will always get those few who fire insults abuse etc.What really matters is what happens on the battle field.
So do ur talkin there http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Those who will not accept a challenge with high honor,dont accept because;
A/ They afraid of losing it? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif
B/ They know they will lose.
C/ They just want to ply ppl they know they can beat!
D/ No honor or respect for others.
Some things will never change,plzs Kocmoc keep ur head held high!And enjoy ur battles with ppl who do the same.
Forgot about E/Make a new name and fight these ppl,they may not know it u,but it may make u feel much better within urself http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
Now go and kick some BUTT!

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://pub14.ezboard.com/fclankenchikukakenchikukacouncilchamber)

[1master1Boromir]

I take deep offence at your accusations Mr. Kocmoc and I also take offence at your comments shoko, because you have just listened to Koc and not Our side of the story.

As I have said in other post (UT)
I have accepted their challenge but I, like mag and koc, I have preffered clan members to play with because I know their game play better than others.

I do not jump when Mag and Koc bark " I challenge you".

I do not sit in the foyer like many others waiting for the "big call-up" to play M+K
You challenged, I replied we were busy so not now. I accepted your challenge. I just do it when it is convenient for both of us and not just YOU.

What I feel is dishonourable is to be arrogant and big headed enough to think that when you challenge someone they automatically come like a lap-dog. Even worse is that when they dont ( Like myself and my clan for a VERY good reason) you have the god-damn nerve to post here and say that we are dishonourable.
Kocmoc, I thought you were better than that.

Oh and why do you talk to yourself Magy? (i.e magyarkhants cham says one thing and Mag replies). Have you not got the bottle to say things with your own face, or do you have to hide??
Grow up please.
Your clan also insights the most spamming online due to the need to "howl" at other so-called wolfies. These consist of three lines of incessant spamming when others want to just arrange to play a game.
We have never talked much Koc but I always respect your fighting ability. Please at least do me the same honour.

I did not join your game and leave.

I also fully expect this thread to be edited/closed or moved but I hope you understand that I have to defend my clan when false accusations are made.

I do not care, win or lose, attack defend, I will play you two if you wish. But it will be at a convenient time for all players. Is that OK?

Now let that be an end to it .

Thank you

Boromir Hojo

DreadMaster Clan

[LETRIC]

Can a thread be started for challenges and rants (one-upmanship)? Although it is mildly amusing it makes it a bit difficult to follow the topic at hand. When a legitimate topic appears in this (and other forums) it invariably degenrates into a mud-slinging match between a small population of the community. This is also spamming.

[Kocmoc]

calm down boro,

i spoke about yesterday night AND u wasnt there!!!

u speak about another day....
plz read first exact what i wrote...

and ofcourse ur not a slap-dog!!!

so i post again, from my first post, plz read it this time...

"but if such guys start to lie, coz they dont like us ...but the game before they joined us (or just 1, dunno they was undercover) ...hmmm than i miss the point..."

BTW, u posted about challanging, so i posted ...plz tell us when!!!

This means, U TELL US, WHEN U WANT TO PLAY!!!
this is real clear for me what it means, just let us know when u have time and play some battle...

at least, this was what i mean....

now i come back to the point what i mean,
ur clanmember, joined us undercover, and after that game we asked about a 2v2...but he said he wont play us, coz he dont like magy.....hmmmm....the game before he join us... sorry but plz help me here to understand it....

maybe this guy just join undercover ?!!?!?
so he cant lose his "important" honour...if its so, jeez....than this boy has a little prob...

ur post boro was complete away from my first post, u wrote about other things, plz replie to my first post and dont.

koc

[MagyarKhans Cham]

although i know it gets pointless and u have a good point where u defend your clan boro. keep doing it mate.

koc was referring to a situation online where we had a friendly, dare left during the game and the enemies won. one of the undercover names ghostwalker was a dreadmember. when we start challenging the dread clan he was happy to tell us that he beat us before and a battle between the clans was not needed, and the other dread could even tell us he didnt like our Khan and in addition asked him if he was aware that the major part of the community didnt like him.

at the same time elite was trying to arrange a 4 clan mini-tourney with the dreads involved, but it ended up unsuccesfull.

your clan does fine in picking the right opponnents for comp games and we gladly accept the compliment in the way u manage to avoid Orlok Koc and his Khan and brag upon your beating of the younger wolves.

There is more honour and u will get more respect in accepting challenges then avoiding them. Accepting challenges and joining other players games is a part of the game if you play comp games. We have had some highranked silly hattorimembers avoiding challenges of wolves and rages and i just hope we dont have to put u on teh same shelve.
we challenged your clanmembers a dozen of times and they seem to excell in hiding. I always wonder on what base you claim to rank your clan amongst the others like elite rage lrossa rusty and so on.

sofar only macajor stood up like a proud warrior. he carries your clans burden of honourability by himself so it seems. Hail him.

Good luck boro, good to see u back. A real assett for the community.

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[1master1Boromir]

If indeed I post about something else then I am sorry for the confusion.

But you still attack my clan. There is nothing I can do about it unless you mail me with the dread name and the other " secret name"
Hopefully then I can help you, and shed some light on the matter but at the moment I know nothing about this.

You quoted me saying that "I cant play now cos I'm busy" (in one post although which I cannot remember as there are many active it seems). So maybe you can understand why I was under the impression you were talking about thursday night when I was there.

Boromir

[evilc]

we might find out which clan has the best 2v2 team http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif of course, the best might not win.

[LordTed]

Kocs, right they wont even play me and Evilc on 2v2 and we are not very good at team play in comparison to our 1v1 skills.

[Shoko]

Seems i was right Boro,but u defend ur clan as u should.
Shoko means no offence by this......Hope this can be sorted out between urself and Kocmoc.But all i can say is ply Shoggy with honor etc.
May u gallop across the plains of Japan as Allies not enemies http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://pub14.ezboard.com/fclankenchikukakenchikukacouncilchamber)

[Krasturak]

Gah!

Krast hates it when his friends get arguing and angry like this.

Stop it right now.

[Kocmoc]

hi boro,


i respect u and i havnt any prob with u! i understand that u defend ur clan, i would do the same!

just sometimes some guys do mistakes, maybe my mistake was to post this, next time i will talk to u personly and dont post this...

all what i did was to post about bahavior of 1 of ur members thats all ...

in the next days i will talk to u direct so we can speak direct and im sure we will agree...

so plz let us stop this here...

thanks for ur time

mike

[1Dread1Star]

Gentlemen,

After reading the above posts, there seemed to have been some confusion from the start. Accusations and rant at the start with retaliation in the middle with apologies and compliance at the end. Bravo to Boromir for coming to the call of clan defense. Bravo also to Kocmoc for realizing that maybe he should have gone directly to Boromir first. When errors occur, one must learn from them. This is honourable. Those that do not, are plagued to fail. It seems that errors were made on both parts and yes, had Kocmoc first approached Boromir with this or any other incident, there would have been an honourable and inter-clan solution for said incident to not repeat itself. Instead, smears and accusations are posted publicly for all to see.... hhmmm....I too was taken aback at Kocmoc's first few posts as I have always had much respect for him and he's even offered me help at ANY time i wanted. All I had to do was ask. However, as I read on, I realized that there seems to have been two occurences and finally, both parties came to an honourable agreement. I have fought against both Kocmoc and Magy several times and have never backed from a fight. We've both won and lost but the fact remains that we've all had fun and relished the wins along with the anguish of loss. My Daimyo's defense is first and formost, however, as Kocmoc mentioned, should there be any further incidences, Plz. forward information to either myself or Boromir should he be available and the said member will be questioned. Every clans goal (be it honourable) is to have only the best players, the best speakers, the most polite members and the overall respect of the Shogun community. No matter how well the screening process is for recruitment, every clan has a member or two who might in the absence of their Daimyo, disrespect the clan and attack another clan member. this is when communication is needed most between clans and their Daimyo's......

Thank's Maggy for the honourable words regarding Macajor....we are proud of him too.....

*Star*

[ElmarkOFear]

Don't make me come back here and lay the Ugly on you guys again. ***ELMO REACHES FOR THE PAPER BAG COVERING HIS HEAD***

[NinjaKilla]

Biggest mistake EA made was showing Honour ratings next to players names. I don't play MI much, but I can see that the number next to the name means squat in 95% of cases. Unfortunately though people take this number far too seriously... when in actual fact most people are aware of how good / bad opponents are because of their / lack of reputation. Unfortunately, with this system it is inevitable that what Kocmoc is complaining about will happen. No offence, but I suggest that the Wolves get over it and stop whining.

http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://pub14.ezboard.com/fclankenchikukakenchikukacouncilchamber)

[1master1Boromir]

Quote Originally posted by LordTed:
Kocs, right they wont even play me and Evilc on 2v2 and we are not very good at team play in comparison to our 1v1 skills.[/QUOTE]

Um Look Back LordTed, cos I assume this was a joke. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

A game with 1dread1Boromir whooped your arse!

Here someone carries on smearing while others are trying to smooth things out.

Thanks to Magy, and koc, along with star for sorting this situation out.

Boromir



[This message has been edited by 1master1Boromir (edited 02-04-2002).]

[evilc]

he's not joking, our 2v2 is pants.
reason we might have lost, testing.