All stand and salute the general!!!

[Count Alfred von Schlieffen]

.....thanks. At ease, people.

Hi, I am Count Alfred von Schlieffen, Chief of the German General Staff. You probably know me from the Schlieffen Plan,a strategy involving a German invasion of Belgium and a right-wheel flanking movement through Holland and then southwards, cutting off Paris from the sea.

.... well, all right, as you might have guessed, I am not really him, just a 24 student of Japanese language and Culture at the University of Leiden, the Netherlands, who finally, after buying Medieval TW (and having owned and played Shogun: TW, for a couple of years now, decided to join this forum.

So, again, a big hi to y'all please, put of with my silly questions and annoying ignorance http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif

[Hetman_Koronny]

*bows*

A noticable debut http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Well, hello http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif Count Alfred von Schlieffen and welcome to the Org

*bows*

[Scipio]

Welcome to the org Count Alfred von Schlieffen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif Im sure any questions that you might ask are surely not as ignorant as some of mine

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

*salutes*

Precursor to the Sichelschnitt of WW2? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Welcome, Count Alfred von Schlieffen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[TheSilverKnight]

Well welcome my friend Enjoy your stay here at the guild. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[HawaiianHobbit]

Hello Count Alfred von Schlieffen, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
I'm sure you can't be half as annoying or ignorant as me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Konichiwa, Schlieffen-san

Welcome to .Org, though am as fresh as Morgentau myself and probably not suited yet to speak any welcomes

Besides our affection to TW, we share also an affection for japanese language, which I began auto-teaching myself... Till now, I can curse pretty well... Uhm, well...

Good to have you here, Count http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[HopAlongBunny]

*salute*

Welcome to the Guild http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[dwarven_eagle]

Wonder how many people join this forum every day (average)
Welcome Count Alfred von Schlieffen

[Count Alfred von Schlieffen]

Thanks, lads. A very warm welcome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Okay, here comes my first show-off of 'astoundingly annoying newby ignorance'-ness:

how the heckdo I edit my post? I didn't see no link saying 'edit' after I posted.

BTW, playing Medieval TW right, am horribly addicted to it. Playing the Egyptians of 'early period', 'easy' difficulty level. Current year: 1234. All went well up until a couple of years ago: conquered Constantinople after a bloody and viscious war with the Byzantines:

And then the Mongols invaded. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]'astoundingly annoying newby ignorance'-ness
LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif



Quote[/b] ]how the heck do I edit my post?
You don'thttp://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Well, not until you've been promoted. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Chek the FAQ: New ? Please read this first


Quote[/b] ]And then the Mongols invaded. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
Yeah, they can have that effect on a person... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Count Alfred von Schlieffen]

I say, that's some interesting forum regulations....
makes me feel like I'm in the army. My username might be the name of a Prussian aristocratic general, but I am a rookie nevertheless. What an interesting forum I am delighted. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Of course, I will soon rise in the ranks of this forum, and eventually take over this forum, and make you all my obedient slav-

erm. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

Sorry. Temporary megalomania. A game of conquest such as Medieval TW does that to you. Do you also have this constant urch to look over your shoulder in case a Catholic Bishop is trying convert you? And I once walked past a mosque, and told the imam standing outside on the street that he should go a preach in the lands of Novgorod and beware of Aragonese assassins. He ran away.

This sort of talk reminds me: is there a: 'You have played too much ....TW when...'thread somewhere on this forum? If not, one should be started very soon.

[Hajduk]

Hello and welcome Count

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[Lord Of Storms]

Welcome Count, good to have another TW fanatic around here, we have lotsand you fit right in, enjoy your stay mate...LOS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Gregoshi]

Hello Count... - you are correct, there was a 'You have played too much... topic on these forums. I suspect it is in the Sword Dojo forum if anywhere, though it may not have made the jump to the new boards last year. Regardless, it was fun topic.

[taoistlumberjak]

Quote[/b] (Count Alfred von Schlieffen @ Nov. 27 2003,09:02)].....thanks. At ease, people.

Hi, I am Count Alfred von Schlieffen, Chief of the German General Staff. You probably know me from the Schlieffen Plan,a strategy involved a German invasion of Belgium and a right-wheel flanking movement through Holland and then southwards, cutting off Paris from the sea.
buuuuu *throws tomatoes*

where were you when your generals screwed the plan up? eh? eh?

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[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (taoistlumberjak @ Nov. 30 2003,01:35)]buuuuu *throws tomatoes*

where were you when your generals screwed the plan up? eh? eh?

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Lol, taoistlumberjak, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif , always good to use icons to let the people know when you are joking

But on the serious side, the Schlieffen plan is a classical approach a la Clausewitz, a standard invasion all German officers would consider first, as well as would the defenders As far as I know, that plan never got fully implemented in the Great War, and it was not used in the WW2 because Hitler embraced the idea from general Erich von Manstein who suggested the crossing over the Ardenns, a teritory deemed unfit for movement of tanks from both German and French general HQ, an approach the defenders failed to accept as possible. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

[bighairyman]

But on the serious side, the Schlieffen plan is a classical approach a la Clausewitz, a standard invasion all German officers would consider first, as well as would the defenders As far as I know, that plan never got fully implemented in the Great War, and it was not used in the WW2 because Hitler embraced the idea from general Erich von Manstein who suggested the crossing over the Ardenns, a teritory deemed unfit for movement of tanks from both German and French general HQ, an approach the defenders failed to accept as possible

welcome to the org http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

the the Schlieffen plan didn't workbecause i think there was to be 5 division invading france. but then the russian moblized too fast, so the german high command transfer a couple divisions to the east which did increibly well(battle of tannerberg), but the didvisons in the west didn't do so good, they got stuck and it transform into trench warfare.

btw, how do u do quotes again, it's been a long time.


wait, never mind, remember now, saw the quote button

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Aymar de Bois Mauri:

Quote[/b] ]Precursor to the Sichelschnitt of WW2?

voigtkampf:

Quote[/b] ]But on the serious side, the Schlieffen plan is a classical approach a la Clausewitz, a standard invasion all German officers would consider first, as well as would the defenders As far as I know, that plan never got fully implemented in the Great War, and it was not used in the WW2 because Hitler embraced the idea from general Erich von Manstein who suggested the crossing over the Ardenns, a teritory deemed unfit for movement of tanks from both German and French general HQ, an approach the defenders failed to accept as possible.

The WW2 Ardenes breaktrough wich lead to the encirclement of large parts of the French Army and of the British Expeditionary Corps in Dunkirk was named, as previously mentioned, Sichelschnitt.
I don't speak German but I believe it means Scythe Stroke.

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Nov. 30 2003,19:10)]The WW2 Ardenes breaktrough wich lead to the encirclement of large parts of the French Army and of the British Expeditionary Corps in Dunkirk was named, as previously mentioned, Sichelschnitt.
I don't speak German but I believe it means Scythe Stroke.
Yup You're right... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Once again, Lord Aymar scores http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Brutal DLX]

Well, actually it means sickle stroke. A scythe is a larger farmtool and called Sense in German. Sorry to nitpick. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]Once again, Lord Aymar scores

It's been an honour *bows*




Quote[/b] ]Well, actually it means sickle stroke. A scythe is a larger farmtool and called Sense in German. Sorry to nitpick.

No problem. You're right http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
But in Portuguese, both farming tools have almost the same name: One is called foice-rouçadoura (scythe) and the other foice (sickle). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Count Alfred von Schlieffen @ Nov. 27 2003,10:02)].....thanks. At ease, people.

Hi, I am Count Alfred von Schlieffen, Chief of the German General Staff. You probably know me from the Schlieffen Plan,a strategy involved a German invasion of Belgium and a right-wheel flanking movement through Holland and then southwards, cutting off Paris from the sea.

.... well, all right, as you might have guessed, I am not really him, just a 24 student of Japanese language and Culture at the University of Leiden, the Netherlands, who finally, after buying Medieval TW (and having owned and played Shogun: TW, for a couple of years now, decided to join this forum.

So, again, a big hi to y'all please, put of with my silly questions and annoying ignorance http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif
too bad those damn Belgians resisted and slowed your plan down, rendering it useless http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Brutal DLX @ Dec. 01 2003,02:32)]Well, actually it means sickle stroke. A scythe is a larger farmtool and called Sense in German. Sorry to nitpick. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Darn you're right http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

I completely forgot that the Germans separate the sichel and sense... Oh, boy, shame on me... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

It was brutal of you to step on my toes, Brutal DLX, but please do so everytime I run out of line... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif


PS Who works, makes mistakes as well..., said the rooster and got off the duck... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Brutal DLX]

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ Dec. 02 2003,06:30)]It was brutal of you to step on my toes, Brutal DLX, but please do so everytime I run out of line... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I didn't knew you are this sensitive though.. If you thought this was brutal... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Anyway, the English apparently separate these tools also, as they also have different terms for them, makes me wonder where you are from? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Count Alfred von Schlieffen]

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ Dec. 01 2003,10:26)]too bad those damn Belgians resisted and slowed your plan down, rendering it useless http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
Well, my plan vould never have failed if I hadn't died in 1913 So, wizzout my great and inspiring presence, my plan turned into big doodoo. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif

Now I have returned to zis vorld as a zombie http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif see vhat ze vorld has become since my untimely demise. And guess vhat? It's become ja alles ganz doodoo. GANZ DOODOO

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[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Brutal DLX @ Dec. 02 2003,03:27)]Anyway, the English apparently separate these tools also, as they also have different terms for them, makes me wonder where you are from? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Not everyone here is from England, my dear Brutal http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

In my mother langauge there is also a distinction between die Siechel and die Sense, I simply forgot that there is one in German too... Silly me...

I am a mercenary, and where I lay my head is home... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Pindar]

Quote[/b] ]Well, my plan vould never have failed if I hadn't died in 1913 So, wizzout my great and inspiring presence, my plan turned into big doodoo.

Actually, my dearboy. I think your plan was doomed from the get go. You should have stayed with Moltke the Elder's idea to move against the Slavic hordes first and forced the Frenchies to attack you against the narrow corridor between Lux. and the Swiss. Their damnable sense for elan would have been their undoing offensively.

[Brutal DLX]

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ Dec. 02 2003,16:16)]Not everyone here is from England, my dear Brutal http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

In my mother langauge there is also a distinction between die Siechel and die Sense, I simply forgot that there is one in German too... Silly me...

I am a mercenary, and where I lay my head is home... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
My good Sir, I didn't assume you are from England, I merely theorised that you could be from a country that is missing this distinction, and England as well as Germany would not qualify then.
Now that you explained you just forgot about it, you could be from England after all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif heh. But I'll take your knight's word if you say you aren't from perfidious Albion. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Cebei]

Whoa Her Schleiffen Achtung Ungem'tlich.. Wilkommen Her Schleiffen? Wo ist Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg?

Geez.. My favorites are rolling in one by one.. First Alexius Comnenus I, then Schleiffen.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Count Alfred von Schlieffen]

Ach Someone from Turkey Great people, ze Turks. Used to be very powerful, twice besieged Vienna, ja, and that thing you did to Constantinople in 1453? Marvelous Shooting down zose big valls wiz ze great Canon And was fur ein great institution, zo kill all ze brothers of ze new Sultan to prevent ze powerstruggle And may I say I just adorethose Yeni Çeri warriors? Und thanks to teach those rotten Englander at Gallipoli
Wunderbar, Ja Wunderbar

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Brutal DLX @ Dec. 03 2003,04:24)]Now that you explained you just forgot about it, you could be from England after all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif heh. But I'll take your knight's word if you say you aren't from perfidious Albion. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
My dear Lord Brutal, what a horryfing assumption It sent shievers down my spine, oh dear... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]Ach Someone from Turkey Great people, ze Turks. Used to be very powerful, twice besieged Vienna, ja, and that thing you did to Constantinople in 1453? Marvelous Shooting down zose big valls wiz ze great Canon And was fur ein great institution, zo kill all ze brothers of ze new Sultan to prevent ze powerstruggle And may I say I just adorethose Yeni Çeri warriors? Und thanks to teach those rotten Englander at Gallipoli
Wunderbar, Ja Wunderbar

Wonderfull, just wonderfull... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif




Quote[/b] ]My dear Lord Brutal, what a horryfing assumption It sent shievers down my spine, oh dear...

I second that... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Ok, ease down, fellas http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

Enough thrashing on ze English They're fine folks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Cebei]

Quote[/b] ]Ach Someone from Turkey Great people, ze Turks. Used to be very powerful, twice besieged Vienna, ja, and that thing you did to Constantinople in 1453? Marvelous Shooting down zose big valls wiz ze great Canon And was fur ein great institution, zo kill all ze brothers of ze new Sultan to prevent ze powerstruggle And may I say I just adorethose Yeni Çeri warriors? Und thanks to teach those rotten Englander at Gallipoli
Wunderbar, Ja Wunderbar

Why do everybody neglect Ottoman cultural, scientific and artistic achievements, and always emphasize on Ottoman military prowess? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

OK I didnt believe myself either http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Somebody Else]

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ Dec. 05 2003,06:19)]Ok, ease down, fellas http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

Enough thrashing on ze English They're fine folks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif
May I say, from the position of authority I hold on the subject, most of us are scum. We're too lazy to learn other languages, so we conquered a lotta the world just so everybody would learn English...

Nosey himself said that his army was composed of the scum of the Earth...

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Count Alfred von Schlieffen]

Wow, I was checking this thread to say if anyone new had posted on it, but it was only Somebody Else....

I guarantee you, you will get fed up with that username very soon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Oh, no, of course, it won't be you that will get fed up but Somebody Else

Sorry http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Sorry to make fun of you, I will now go and make fun of Somebody Else

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Oh, God, I'm killing myself....

But not Somebody Else

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[Somebody Else]

You know - you shouldn't make fun of somebody else's name - you might cause immense mental trauma.

I really hope somebody else on this forum thinks up an amusing name...

Honestly, the username's okay - a lot more amusing than some... plus - I get to make jokes about it as well...

How long before somebody else makes a joke on my name I wonder...

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]We're too lazy to learn other languages, so we conquered a lotta the world just so everybody would learn English...

ROTFL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Somebody Else @ Dec. 05 2003,06:00)]May I say, from the position of authority I hold on the subject, most of us are scum. We're too lazy to learn other languages, so we conquered a lotta the world just so everybody would learn English...

Nosey himself said that his army was composed of the scum of the Earth...

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
I don't think that you should take it upon yourself to be the supreme judge and the last instance in this matter, let somebody else say the final words... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

Quote[/b] (Somebody Else @ Dec. 05 2003,07:00)]
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ Dec. 05 2003,06:19)]Ok, ease down, fellas http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

Enough thrashing on ze English They're fine folks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif
May I say, from the position of authority I hold on the subject, most of us are scum. We're too lazy to learn other languages, so we conquered a lotta the world just so everybody would learn English...

Nosey himself said that his army was composed of the scum of the Earth...

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Hail Britannia..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif