View Full Version : Do you love the Total War time???
By this I mean that part that happens in every conquest game when it's you against the whole world. It may happen when someone attacks you and you lose all your alliances. That time is what I call Total War
It's my favourite time of the game.
I don't. Its is difficult enough for me to work out a long term strategy, and I'd like to keep wars small and easily followed. If everyone is agianst me, that usually messes up my already feeble strategy.
But perhaps this is just because I'm a bad general http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif .
Ludens
Jacque Schtrapp
12-13-2003, 01:03
No. I long for diplomacy. I've been searching for the Total Diplomacy website, but I can't seem to find it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Thus I keep finding myself wandering back here... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Voigtkampf
12-13-2003, 08:38
YEAH, bring them on http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
It doesn't get real cosy untill the whole world is after you. As soon as I get excommed, I launch a Total War, since almost every time I'm attacked I actually get abandoned by almost all of my allies.
Quote[/b] ]No. I long for diplomacy. I've been searching for the Total Diplomacy website, but I can't seem to find it. Thus I keep finding myself wandering back here...
Good luck searching, Monsieur Schtrapp, but since there is no diplomacy in M:TW, there will hardly be any sites about it too...
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For me, how much I enjoy it depends a lot on the timing of it. If I'm ready for it, sure, I enjoy it. For some reason though, they seem to love launching those big attacks just as I'm swapping out my older line units for my fully upgraded modern ones, or while I've got my good generals being retrained with upgrades.
That, and I especially hate it when total war starts with a giant naval attack on all my ships (as it so often does). Disrupts my troops movements and trade, but mostly it just annoys me because it takes me a while to figure out exactly who the sucker is who just attacked my boats. They really should tell you who's attacking you in those naval reports.
On the other hand, if I'm in good shape when it breaks out, then I think it's grand. Nothing is as much fun as taking 1,000 prisioners while losing only 51 of your own guys. Except maybe hitting the 'kill all prisioners' button right before the battle ends.
Of course -for me- its a very exciting time, but there must be some alliances too. No alliances no commerse, no money, no army etc...
Cruelsader
12-13-2003, 13:54
Total war part is the last real challenge and therefore it is kind of fun. However, I would also prefer more rational and dependable diplomacy. I would also like to have other options to end the game: it is really boring to conquer the last 50 provinces because at this time the final outcome is almost never in doubt. The alternative could be being chosen by remaining AI factions as the high King, crowning as Roman emperor etc when it is clear that AI factions are doomed.
Most interesting part of the game are the first 25 years. I almost always start campaign very aggressively with my resources spread thin and this means that each battle may decide the fate of my kingdom.
Ikken Hisatsu
12-13-2003, 14:23
yeah the first years are the best imo. once you get to the total war stage it just becomes a fairly boring steamroller exercise, grinding to a painfully slow campaign once you start getting into territories that arent of your religion. they really need to figure something out for this because it was the same in shogun- once you own half the map, or even a third, the other half is a cakewalk. and the diplomacy is a joke, while I realise alliances were made and broken often in medieaval europe, it was usually for a reason, not just because sicily doesnt like the look of your ships. especially when sicily has a whole 4 provinces and 3 ships, while I have thousands of hardened warriors and a massive fleet.
The_Emperor
12-13-2003, 15:24
I love the World War scenario where you get far too big for your boots and everyone wants to take a chunk out of you
This is the problem with wanting to take over the world... Sooner or later everyone will make a Last Alliance and stand against you and your ambitions of conquest, of course that just means more enemies to the slaughter
Great fun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-13-2003, 16:31
The last all-out attack by the AI is really the only thing that keeps the gamer interested. It's really no challenge for my survival, but at least it keeps myself alerted.
It would be better if the game had a more realistic feel, just like BKB's SuperMOD or WesW's MedMOD with it's homelands concept. Great empires would prove to be a lot more challenging to build. In the middle and later parts of the game it would be quite difficult to hold on against the assault of the AI factions. So overall it would be much more fun and not a boring steam-roller process. Then diplomacy would be very important in order to keep any chance of survival...
I wouldn't actually mind the sudden grip of complete and total unreasoning insanity that strikes every single other faction once you've got enough provinces if it weren't for two things. The way naval transport and loyalty is handled, and the sometimes absolutely stupid attacks they start it with. I kind of expect some kind of desperate lash out, but still...
The former is probably well known to everyone. It aggravates the heck out of me when a former ally decides it's total war time, and attacks my boats in every single ocean they can find. But I'd expect that. However, the whole 'the boat chain is broken' effect on loyalty is a little bit over the top, I think. It's amazingly aggrivating to have one link in a boat chain break, and suddenly have seven rebellions, even in provinces that have castles, border forts, and a garisson large enough to be the third marine division.
The second...well, maybe this is just me, but for some reason the attack that starts the final war is always something completely nuts. This last game I was playing, for reasons I simply cannot fathom, Novgorod attacked one of my provinces - which had a huge garrison of fully upgraded, modern troops - with seventeen men. But then, the war starts, and I get four Since you're now at war with our allies, we're cancelling our alliance, and oh yeah, attacking all your boats on sight messages.
AI behavior like that probably explains why all my generals end up with blood-lover vices. A few incidents like these, and I get really happy with the 'kill em all' button.
HawaiianHobbit
12-13-2003, 19:51
I like it's fun but it's really hard.
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Yes, its the best time.
I'm out to conquer the world. They're out to conquer the world.
Let's be honest about it, quit hiding our true intentions behind diplomats, and Get It On
ichi
Fianóglach
12-13-2003, 21:59
I rather enjoy going up against everyone, even if it means temporarily going completely insane, and shouting various incoherent commands to my Generals. I usually start from the very first turn preparing strategies to crush everyone near me, and move on. Sucessful or not, always fun to give your empire the ultimate test. Now if I could only get my men to Ireland http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Voigtkampf
12-14-2003, 09:54
Quote[/b] (ichi @ Dec. 13 2003,14:55)]Let's be honest about it, quit hiding our true intentions behind diplomats, and Get It On
ichi
Right so http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
After all, the name of this game is Medieval: Total war, not Medieval: Total Diplomacy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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