Does conquest or GA changes AI objectives?

[PseRamesses]

Greetings,

Does anyone know if the AI faction´s gets an altered objective when you choose Conquest or Glory Achivements?
It seems, to me, that this is not the fact. It doesn´t matter, I think, what ever I choose the computer always goes for domination which is a pity

It would be nice though if GA is choosen the compuer faction would play more sane and things like the Egyptians/ Almohads trying to take all of Europe etc.

What do you think?

[Gregoshi]

I don't know. I'd like to think the AI plays a little differently in GA, but maybe that is just wishful thinking.

[Jxrc]

No idea regarding whether GA has an impact on the way the AI acts since I always play GA.
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Nevertheless one can spot several behaviour by the AI between GA games with the same faction.

Played GA early with the HRE many times, a few times I got attacked by the Poles and the French after 5 years only and once I was not attacked (and there was even no war at all) until 1190 Most of the time, I get after 20/30 years.



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[Eastside Character]

I don't know whether the AI acts different when you choose playing for GA, but I play different when I choose a GA game, so my style affects the way the AI behaves, so I think it is fair to say that when I choose to play GA, the AI plays different too (but I don't know whether because it also wants to score GA points or maybe just in a reaction to what I am doing)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif I think it is a big question. Hmm.....
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[Quokka]

Without being 100% certain I think there is a difference.


The GA game is goal orientated and as such I have noticed much less warmongering and a greater tendency for the AI to improve its provinces. I have also been able to get ceasefires during GA games that I have great difficulty getting in the Domination game. I find it a much more enjoyable option than Domination where once the wars start they rarely stop.

[PseRamesses]

Well guys,
It´s clear that no sure answer is obtained or maybee it is. Maybee the whole game difference is the way you play and the AI´s response to that???
I always plays GA-games nowdays. In Shogun domination is the only option so when I bought MTW I started to play only domination style. Then I found that GA-games appealed more to my strategic play-style.
When playing GA you only go for certain goles, like certain provinces, crusades, building etc so the AI maybee more relaxed during thoose types of games. But when I play domination-style the AI always have one humongus opponet and one or two more large ones to counter your play. I have also noticed that when I play in the left upper corner the opposing low right corner faction gets big and when I play a right upper faction the low left faction on the map goes empire-style. (Eng/Fra/Dan vs Egy/Tur/Byz or Rus/Pol/Hun vs Alm/Spa etc)
Have you got the same tendencies?

[Sun Tzui]

I've noticed some diferences, and as stated before, in GA the AI tends to achieve goals first and conquer provinces after, in Global Domination he just goes for all out conquest. Yes I think there are some small diferences yet they exist. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Eastside Character]

So what about when you play as a faction that is located right in a middle - HRE??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

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[PseRamesses]

Quote[/b] (Eastside Character @ Dec. 30 2003,09:14)]So what about when you play as a faction that is located right in a middle - HRE??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

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It´s really easy (I think) to play HRE. Firstly I must say that I only play GA-games and never, even if I have the oppurtunity, go for domination. Everyone of your neighbours will attack you at some point which gives you a reason to take a quick (2 years) nibble to take one or more provinces from them. For each you take you grow stronger and they will weaken. A really good thing is that in your Glory Achivements you are supposed to take a good chunk of Italy and the Italians gets excommunicated a lot so just walse in and take a pick. This is what I usually do:
1. Take Pom/Pru/Lit/Liv which later on will force Rus/Pol to expand east and south-east which will be a nice buffer-zone for you when the mongols arrive.
2. Make peace with all neighbours while building upgrades. You already have Bur/Swa/Swi as good troopbuilding provs. To theese I add Fra/Bav and the rest of the provs I just build cash-generating things and ship-builders in Fri/Sax/Pom/Pru (I don´t expect/ plan to keep Lit/Liv.
3. Eventually you will be attacked by your neighbours so just start to kick ass. You can´t protect all your borders so I usually keep ALL my troops in my center-provinces Bur/Swa/Swi/Fra/Bav/Bra and leave the rest with good def troops so you should try to get atleast a keep in theese low-protected areas.
I have never had any probs taking out the Pol/Hun/Ital/Fre/Dan with this approach within the first 100 years of gameplay. That´s why I don´t play the HRE anymore.
One warning though; If you get a multiple war like getting attacked by 3-4 of your neighbours you will probably have a hell of a time to keep your provs but that´s a challenge too right?