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HawaiianHobbit
12-31-2003, 02:25
So do you conquer 60%(or is it 80%) and claim your victory or do you play for a 100%?
For me it depends on how much time is left when I get the Lesser Victory. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/handball.gif
i aim for the 60% level, but most of the time i don`t even get that far.
i get such a lead that they will never beat me that i just start over. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
most people seem to do that.
i could go on for the full victory but the micromanagement gets tedious, and i`m such a control freak that i don`t like the computer automatically controlling my provinces. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
very very right katar. I agree completely. plus its hard to win on expert so right now i have about 20 games sitting on about 40% of landmass http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
The_Emperor
12-31-2003, 03:28
I go all the way, when your in there screwing people you have to stay in there and screw them good, screw them til the end
When I get past the 60% mark the game rapidly turns into a mopping up excercise, as such I tend to just flood provinces with my vast hordes of troops and auto-resolve the battles...
I don't like having to fight every battle when victory is near and I am advancing on all fronts (and facing close to 10-15 battles per turn).
I guess I'm a megalomaniac at heart http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I typically play all the way to the end, simply because 60% usually happens at an innoppurtune moment. I'll have finally got my troops fully upgraded, after defending myself from super-aggressive neighbors, and 60% always comes to seem 1 or 2 years after I switch from 'hold the line and tech up' mode to 'payback time' mode. And I never want to stop just as I've got 4,000 fully upgraded troops lead by nine-star generals about to go bash the heads in of those suckers who've been sinking my boats for the last 50 years.
I try to make things interesting at the end, after the point of inevitable victory (aka the steamroller horizon), I try to keep things interesting by making theme attacks. Doing odd challenges, like attacking provinces with an army of nothing but fully upgraded peasants lead by a nine-star, or nothing but cannons and handgunners.
Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-31-2003, 06:28
Always finish. Always GA. Always micromanage ALL aspects of the game.
Yeah, I know. I'm a control freak... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Voigtkampf
12-31-2003, 08:17
I go all the way, if I can make it, that is… Aiming for Total Domination…
Math Mathonwy
12-31-2003, 08:58
i nver go all the way, i get way to impatient, at the end it gets relle hectic with your huge Empire super large armies and constant rebellions, its just not fun. Except i do on the Viking campaign. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Quote[/b] ]Except i do on the Viking campaign.
i always finish the viking era, that`s the exception for me, it`s large enough to be interesting, yet small enough to manage comfortably, especially if you prefer to control everything yourself. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
The Wizard
12-31-2003, 16:59
GAH me smash, till no more things to smash
Translation: I always try to go for the big T. And the big D. Yeah...
o_loompah_the_delayer
01-01-2004, 13:28
Quote[/b] (The_Emperor @ Dec. 30 2003,20:28)]I go all the way, when your in there screwing people you have to stay in there and screw them good, screw them til the end
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screw them till there is nothing left to screw
Demequis
01-01-2004, 22:59
I go to 60 % on the first time through with a faction, I think the only games I've ever gone 100% with have been once with English, and once with Turkish.
Never played GA, I think I'll go start one now. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
(First post outside of entrance hall, whoo!http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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What an erotic topic title..
I can't seem to finish game; I just don't have the will for it. Its too much work. I usually have all of western europe, or all of the provinces around the mediterranean, and I delete my save game rashly (everytime :P).
for those that do get Total Domination, is there some cool screen with stats or anything? (I think this is the only thing that would convince me to Totally Dominate).
TheSilverKnight
01-02-2004, 04:13
I don't aim to conquer Europe. I like to have a sense of balance, so I aim to just keep my country alive by doing historical things (raising masses of peasants to defend my lands). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Michael the Great
01-03-2004, 17:49
GAH I I ALWAYS WIN
The Wizard
01-04-2004, 14:40
Quote[/b] (Cebei @ Jan. 02 2004,00:17)]What an erotic topic title..
o_ô
Basileus
01-04-2004, 14:48
I used to go all the way but nowdays i mostly play GA and try to just do my goals heh, going for world domination aint my cup of tea anymore cant keep in me intressted in the game playing like nowdays..
Mount Suribachi
01-04-2004, 19:38
The only campaign I ever completed was VI, as the mercians. I normally get about 100 years in before the game swamps me and ceases to be fun for me.
Yeah, I get bored after a while. I have one maybe twice... And several times in the Viking age.
Big King Sanctaphrax
01-04-2004, 21:40
Quote[/b] ]Do you go all the way?
It depends how much they pay me...
Togakure
01-04-2004, 22:31
95% of the time I play a TW game through to total domination of the map. Part of the challenge I set for myself is to see how quickly i can do this.
Mount Suribachi
01-04-2004, 22:31
You're too young for that kind of thing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Big King Sanctaphrax
01-04-2004, 22:58
Not in Thailand
Mount Suribachi
01-05-2004, 00:33
Trust me mate, you really don't want to be going to Thailand and doing that kind of thing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Revenant69
01-05-2004, 06:41
Since i love micromanaging my empire to its utmost i usually stop at the Lesse Victory as micromanaging the entire map can become quite tedious.
PseRamesses
01-05-2004, 12:12
If I play domination I go all the way. But if I play GA I sometimes settle for "minor victory",
HawaiianHobbit
01-05-2004, 23:14
there's a minor victory in GA?
The_Emperor
01-05-2004, 23:26
Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Jan. 04 2004,23:33)]Trust me mate, you really don't want to be going to Thailand and doing that kind of thing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
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The Cry that echoes through all castles i rule over "Victory, Or Death"
Quote[/b] (Revenant69 @ Jan. 04 2004,23:41)]Since i love micromanaging my empire to its utmost i usually stop at the Lesse Victory as micromanaging the entire map can become quite tedious.
By the time I hit 60%, every year seems to take me hours and hours to get through - so much micromanagement, so many battles - it tends to be a relief to take the minor victory and go and start up a new campaign instead http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Kelvar_Mongol
01-10-2004, 10:04
ALWAYS
Just couldn't get enough of the credits http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Lord of the morning
01-10-2004, 14:37
I usualy stop at 60%, the times that I have gone to the finnish, it hasnt really been a challenge from 60% onwards, i mean when you controll 60% of the world, whos to stop you from gaining another 40%, no nation really has the power to prevent you. Though i have to admit, it is not always that I would have time to go for 100% since i like to play my games rather slow, building gathering my armies for many years before striking out with all power.
danielrech
01-10-2004, 20:31
I am a micromanaging megalomaniac, so my big empires take forever to advance 1 year. I am even reluctant to go on with my HRE campaign as I've got something like 35 provinces, and I am spending 1-2 hours for each year.
But at the same time I think about all the time I spent to build the infrastructure for top-of-line units, so now I want to use them.
I have yet to conquer 100% of the "known" world. Not because of lack of opportunity, it's more about losing my patience with micromanaging....
I also started to play "parallel" campaigns, switching the play between them according to my will. It helps to refresh and break the monotony I guess...
I usually tend ot go all the way only if there is still a challenge to it. Usually though I build up till I get my huge technologically advanced armies and just walk through the whole world. During this rush is usually when I hit 60% and I just play through till the rush has lost it's steam and just quit then. I still consider a lesser victory.
Other times when it was so hard to get even that far, I just have to continue and dominate whole world.
Only went all the way a few times though.
I usually try to reach the greatest extent each empire has ever acheived, but once I get there I almost always lose interest and start a new game.
It happened again just the other day. I was England and I controlled the British Isles, Norway, Sweeden, Denmark, most of France (save Tolouse and Champagne), and Palestine.
I wish I didn't lose interest so quickly and abruptly, but I can't seem to find a motivation to expand beyond the greatest extents of the historic empires.
Why do you all keep going?
Count Fudgula
01-30-2004, 03:24
Quote[/b] (Servius1234 @ Jan. 10 2004,16:32)]
Why do you all keep going?
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women, of course.
Coordinating your attacks on the last remaining opposition power to take them out entirely in one fell swoop, is certainly easier when you have access to all the money, all the provinces, and all the upgrades, but this does not make it any less fun. Remember all the times earlier in the game when you were caught on the hop trying to eke out a bit of extra land with a scratched together mob of motley troops. Your ragtag bunch dive into one province, meanwhile your enormous neighbours on the other side decide that now is the time to march a huge tech-ed up army into your main capital province which is being only defended by park keepers and their trained attack ducks.
Just remember how bad that felt, and how you wished you could stand up to them somehow. Now flash forward to the present. You own everything bar a dozen or so provinces, your king has got a good thirty years left to reign, you have hundreds of thousands in the bank, you can build any amount of anything and deliver them to the frontline in two years. Total victory is, of course, inevitable, but you can choose to do it in style. You may have some terrible vengeance left to wreak, but those guys were probably the first to go when you got strong enough. Turning up with 13 units of Lancers and a few random other regular types to a battle on the steppe is a sight to behold. Possibly wasteful of resources and a little insane but great fun nonetheless.
I see the run to total domination after 60% as a kind of reward for all the tough times previous to that. I don't worry too much about micromanaging, just as long as I can keep the happiness high enough to avoid too many big rebellions/reemergences. You can make a mess of a few years because you know you can bring it all back together anyway.
Also being a megalomaniac (I know I'm in good company here) means I HAVE to see the whole map turn green when I hit the shift key
HopAlongBunny
01-30-2004, 07:23
Usually stop at 60%. Some GA's I will cruise through to the end, just to see if anything interesting happens.
The first time I got a Turkish campaign actually going somewhere, I had to play to Total Domination (Early Expert) Actually kinda proud of that game; one rebellion during the whole game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Nice change
Off topic, but terribly important: where is the regular little smiley?
all the time that i have had mtw... i have never...NEVER finished a campaign.
usually i just get bored of the game by then, spending 2-3 days on one campaign gets boring... :)
Mortal Cabbage
01-31-2004, 09:07
Rarely. The most fun and interesting part is to survive and consolidate at the beginning of the game. Setting up the money flow, fighting a few ultimate, nailbiting battles to establish a front line with natural borders (hills, rivers) and from then on the games gets pretty boring. Somehow I'm able to keep on building in every province from year to year, and to create a couple 7-9 star armies with uber-units (armour + morale) that are able to crush anything in its way.
Lately I've even been doing the most tedious micromanagement (retraining units in all provinces every year to get the army to the highest standard) and I found that that makes things even more easier. And boring.
THe only factions that remain a challenge for me, is the HRE empire in just about all era's, and the Russians on High.
I hope that RTW includes an "impossible"-mode after "expert", and that it keeps the game challenging after you've managed to consolidate and prepare for the Big Expansion.
Duke of RumpyPumpy
01-31-2004, 21:37
I go all the way.
I haven't completed a single campaign since I've started playing MTW when it came out in August of 2002, or September, I forgot. Not even 1 Viking Invasion campaign. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif I just don't have the patience. Got close once, but then I got that stupid save bug that happens sometimes when you save right before a battle. I didn't have any other savegames from that campaign as I only use 1 savegame per campaign usually. Gah http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
Total domination or death. Always. Never auto-resolve. Heavy micromanagement.
Total domination:
- Danes
- Byzantines
- Egyptians
- Vikings
- HRE
- Irish
Death:
- Byzantines (on 2nd year http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif )
It depends on how bored I become of the game. But I don't think I have ever finished it completely.
R'as al Ghul
02-02-2004, 13:50
being only defended by park keepers and their trained attack ducks.
Those sound great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Where can you train them?
"Hey you JHI Get off the lawn and stop carving your names into the benches or I'll charge my impetous attack ducks against you Mind you, they have +10 against armoured units and plus 20 when defeating their youngsters...."
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I am just bored.
Cheers
I've never finished a game. I always start in Early, and usually about 20 years after High starts I get bored. At that point I have an indominable navy, which brings in a bizzilion florins a year, I have all my troop-producing provinces upgraded to blue armor and master troop makers, I have a sturdy and efficient frontline and I own everything from Egypt up around the corner to the three Arid provinces in SE Turkey, so I can go back to my heavier troop types.
I just found that Julian end-game year disabler program. So long as that thing leaves all my other modding intact, which I'm not sure it does yet, I'll start playing Late games and will probably take it further, maybe. At the very least I'll have the most kickass troops/army when I quit :-)
mercian billman
02-02-2004, 14:59
I find that VI campaigns are easier to finish. The smaller campaign map, and less reliance on diplomacy helps alot.
I play mostly to 60%. After that it gets a bit boring.
I also do major saves every 50 years. e.g. 1100,1150,1200, ... So I can go back if a strategy fails. (Never do tho http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )
I am going to give GA a try next.
mercian billman
02-02-2004, 22:23
GA is nice as it gives you something to aim for than just world domination. I suggest playing Egypt, Almohads, or catholic factions that can crusade.
I have completed one HRE campaign, and one as the Danes. I don't think either were started on Early. I fully agree the last 10 or 20% of the map presents no challenge, really, unless you make a mistake and unleash a civil war.
The Tuffen
02-03-2004, 14:53
I usually try to get 100% but as soon as the Horde come (usually start in early so it takes a while) i lost intrest because I usually have huge armies left over so i can then send them off to take over the whats left of the map. I've since decided to start in the High peroid now to stop that happening.
Random Ronin
02-08-2004, 09:03
Never, I look to conquer just certain parts of it, as French, I like England, Germany to the river Oder, to the Mountains between France and Spain, and to the Italian border, and if I feel so inclined, I take Denmark. What the percentage is, I cannot say, but the objective of my game is to really just play the game, not win.
Quote[/b] (TogakureOjonin @ Jan. 04 2004,15:31)]95% of the time I play a TW game through to total domination of the map. Part of the challenge I set for myself is to see how quickly i can do this.
Right answer I wish I knew how to insert a screenshot I took but I'll try to get this in as few wor...what am I doing? Sorry guys but I'm new.
It's an early-expert-english game. I have the island (but not Ireland), eastern front is Flanders-Lorraine-Burgundy-Provence, I have all of Spain, Africa and the middle east, Asia Minor up to Tripoli-Rum-Syria, Sardinia, Corsica, Sicily and Naples, Norway-Sweden and Denmark. I have eight armies of 1920 men that stand as defense in most of the front provinces. All Standard fare; 40-R/Kn, 240-Chv/Kn, 360-Chv/MAA, 480-Arch, and 800-Chiv/Ser and is mostly armed with golden weapons and armor, but my 'go forth and conquer' army is mostly Cav of several old types and will recieve my Archers as I have just now started to replace the Standard armies' missiliers with Pav/Arb. I just finished off the Spanish in Rum and mostly they just ran until they couldn't run any more and then I routed them. It got to be like, "When do I get to have a battle?"
The year is 1275 and I have 2 million florins in the Bank of England.
Do ya think I could go for it? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
It'll be somone close to you, and they will be the traitor.
I'm sorry to say but you won't break any speed records doing it. I did 100% with english by 1160 and it can be done faster.
use your defense armies for offense.
use second rate troops to defend and quality stuff to kill.
enjoy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
crush them ALL *demented laughter*
Coldstream
03-15-2004, 13:07
I don't even go half way. I hardly go 10% of the way. I'm happy to murder my way across an area, burn every building to the ground and go back home for a cuppa.
gaijinalways
03-16-2004, 14:43
I enjoy the battles, but once I get to 60%, I'm ready for a beer (I know, there is a pause button but I sometimes forget about it, the beer I mean).
I've only ever finished two MTW games - and only because I inherited them as end-game reigns from the PBM forum of the Org.
The end-games can be rather tedious - you are clearly going to win, but have to micromanage a very large empire and fight many long battles to do so. I know you could just let things go in terms of building and not fight the battles manually, but it is hard to give up on those good habits built up from early games.
On the plus side, by sticking with a campaign, you can get some unexpectedly epic contests. By the end game, the AI can often field 16 decent units in a battle and so the inital contests are more challenging in terms of quality, if not quantity. You can also carry out much more bold grand strategy, almost approaching a blitzkrieg as you simultaneously over-run multiple provinces in a year.
The end-games can be rather tedious - you are clearly going to win, but have to micromanage a very large empire and fight many long battles to do so. I know you could just let things go in terms of building and not fight the battles manually, but it is hard to give up on those good habits built up from early games.
I know what you mean. After having spent so much on developing your empire, it's just annoying to let it get screwed just because of the bore.
I also have a sad tendency to ditch a campaign regularly. I usually rush the nearest two or three factions and then build up a bit and conquer some more. One I get ships and trade going, I usually quit as I just get ridiculous income and often "pretty much won".
I then start a new one as I'm bored of semi end game.
I currently have about 7 games that are unfinished. I might try and finish them. one day.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
Depends how long I have left, but like others IO dotn tend to finish many games.
VikingHorde
03-25-2004, 13:56
I never go all the way, 60% at max. I like building things, so I never get a fast victory. Gez it's the civ gamer in me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
octavian
03-25-2004, 22:25
i go all the way, always, except when i dont, which is sometimes, but aside from that, i always go all the way http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif i've only had the game for just over half a year, and i've completed many more than one campaign all the way, i sometimes play GA, but that degenerates into a slugfest with me anyways.
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