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avarin
01-02-2004, 04:11
Ah, Praise God for those holy men, those true sons of the Church, those Grand Inquisitors. I love it when I burn a 5+ star enemy general to charcoal for his blasphemy, even heretical kings and princes will not escape the Refiner's fire. And every knee shall bend before the mighty inquisition, making way for loyal crusaders.

Beware all Il Papa's men are coming.
Avarin

Ashen
01-02-2004, 04:20
Sounds like my old school. They used to burn troublemakers.

Hokkien
01-02-2004, 04:34
Medieval Campaign... Viking Huscarles. The Elite of the Viking Lord's Armies.

Mnnn have to love those viking huscarles.

I do like inquisitors now too. I have my Inquisitor Squads. 5 inquisitors, enemy generals, year after year = civil war.

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mercian billman
01-02-2004, 04:41
For VI I would say JomsVikings they simply dominate.

For MTW I would have to say AUM they slaughter everything. Burning a 5 star general is pretty fun too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

danielrech
01-02-2004, 04:45
In the campaign map it has to be spies. They are the best to bring chaos to that other big faction on the other side of the world, whose expansion you can't contain with your own armies.

I didn't had much success using inquisitors... I dunno why, even 4-5 star ones didn't help much.

In battles I like the arbalesters. I like to keep my hands clean... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

Ikken Hisatsu
01-02-2004, 10:09
As far as battlefiled units go, probably longbowmen. they are just so useful, dont run like little girls when someone comes close, armour piercing, longest range.... just gravy. I try not to use inquisitors because really it just makes the game way too easy, like geisha from shogun.

ichi
01-02-2004, 10:14
Any good Cav Archer - probably Byz Cav, Faris or Szeks my favorite right now, although Boyars have the best stats.

Shoot up Knights, rout archers, flank the line, chase routers . . .

too much fun

ichi

Somebody Else
01-02-2004, 10:46
On the field... Billmen - or Halberdiers if Billmen are not forthcoming... these boys just carve through everything.
On the campaign map - a giant stack of Billmen.
In Vikings - Gallowglasses, because they're nutters.

Basileus
01-02-2004, 11:23
Alan Mercenery Cavalary, fun unit fast and great to flank chase HA Archers etc..

Fragony
01-02-2004, 11:29
Gendarmes, once you hit the late period as the French you can start producing these sugarpie's in almost all your provinces. Lots and lots of superheavy cavalry, a late french army is a sight to behold.....

Demequis
01-02-2004, 20:25
Billmen all the way baby

Tempiic
01-03-2004, 00:37
All kind of light troops whether they are mounted or not

The_Emperor
01-03-2004, 02:51
Hmmm all time fave unit? Thats a tough one

For VI I would have to say Huscarls, they slice any unit into dog food in no time

In MTW I would have to say Longbows. But lately I have taken a real liking to Horse Archer units... and those unique Spanish Jinettes especially

There are so many good units http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Komutan
01-03-2004, 03:09
Royal Knights

Revenant69
01-03-2004, 07:39
Well, it is very very hard to choose the most favorite unit, instead i guess the best way of doing a survey like that ould be to list most favorite units by faction. What do you think?

Well, here are my faves for each faction that i have played so far:

Byzantines: Varangian Guard
Turks: Jannissary Heavy Infanty
Russians: Here i have a split between Boyars and Druzhyna
English: Longbows
Spanish: Spanish Jinettes
French: Turcopoles
Vikings: Viking Raider Cavalry
HRE: Swabian Swordsmen


Hehehe, I havent played many factions but i am one of those meticulous micromanagers and so campaigns take forever http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

danielrech
01-03-2004, 08:09
Quote[/b] (Revenant69 @ Jan. 02 2004,21:39)]French: Turcopoles
hmmm, aren't turcopoles available as mercenaries only? They are not a french unit... Then maybe you don't like this faction at all and just refuse to name a unit of theirs... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

cutepuppy
01-03-2004, 10:42
Quote[/b] ]hmmm, aren't turcopoles available as mercenaries only? They are not a french unit... Then maybe you don't like this faction at all and just refuse to name a unit of theirs...
No, turcopoles are buildable by catholics in Antioch, Tripoli, Syria and Edessa with a horse breeder. In reality they were mercenaries, but so frequently used by the crusader states that CA decided to make them buildable (and misprinted it on the unit chart).

Hashishin
01-03-2004, 12:04
I love all Cav units.

Heavy Cav like Templars and Chiv for the hard assault.
Here i love the Teutonic Knights most.

And for the dirty tricks Horse Archers.
Here i love the turkopoles and Skelz most.

Voigtkampf
01-03-2004, 16:22
Italian infantry. Those guys are brilliant at the very beginning, they always stood up very good for me on the battlefield.

Lord Azriel
01-03-2004, 16:38
CFK, high morale, eat up knights -- saved my bacon on many an occasion

Jomsviking
01-03-2004, 18:17
My favorite units are:

Viking invasion it's Jomsvikings, they'll defeat anything.

MTW:
Hungarians: Szekely
Byzantine: Byzantine Infantry
English: Longbows
Danes: Longboats
Italians: Italian Infantry
Egyptians: Mameluke Cavalry

Chimpyang
01-03-2004, 22:19
I havent got VI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif but my fave units in MTW are Gothic Knights or Janissary Hvy Infantry. Unfortunately these are only available more late on in the game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Eastside Character
01-04-2004, 10:37
Any cavalry archers (preferably fast), Szekely are my favorite.

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.EC.

Lord Rom
01-04-2004, 16:31
Slezskies are nasty, fast horse archers that pack a surprising punch. Great for speeding around the corner and hitting the enemy from behind. Used in packs can bait and trap heavy cav before help arrives.

Ashen
01-04-2004, 16:54
You can build Tucopoles in Antioch, possibly in other holy landish places. My personal fav is easily the longbow. Gotta fear em. But I absolutely love thing with 4 legs and a bow. or a lance. or just 4 legs. Im very much a cavalry lover ^^

-Amon-
01-05-2004, 00:50
only janissary heavy infantry..

these guys are the best and my favourite..


hail to jhi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Lord Wolfric
01-05-2004, 09:45
Teutonic Knights and Knights Templar. They're just too damn cool.

Another many may overlook... Serpentine Cannon Handy for blasting down walls or picking off would-be attackers from the high ground.

Cebei
01-08-2004, 01:20
Are swiss armored pikemen only my favorite? Nobody likes them... Dont worry swissies, you are always welcome in my army.. Dont bring the cows tho.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Dillinger
01-08-2004, 02:13
Serpentines are magical, indeed. Nothing works better on the defence than 3-4 serpentines.

I'll list them by era:

Early: Royal Knights. Available much earlier than Feudal's, they are unstoppable until the AI starts building enough Feudal Sergeants. Even after that they make excellent units for surgical style strikes. Runner up - Swabian Swordsmen.

High: Chivalric men-at-arms. Sturdy, dependable, and overall excellent unit, they can defeat virtually anything (As long as it isn't mounted ...) you can throw against them. Runner up - Cogs.

Late: Lancers. The best cavalry, period (.). Can, and will, beat anything aslong as they are handled properly. Runner up - Serpentines

chris
01-08-2004, 02:48
well that depends......i modded the beserkers making them a unit of 100, and speed of 40. They are not invincible but can now run down clavary http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

un modded? I think i like the longbows for archers, i learned to use them well in MTW. Viking HUscarles are my fav. foot

k1injuries
01-08-2004, 03:59
My favorite units are probably the peasents..
My favorite units to kill of course http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

I love when an enemy throws in peasents as a last ditch... offense Seriously, I don't know why the enemy sends peasents with its armies as a reinforcement. I just charge at them with my cavalry and watch the ensuing carnage. It's a sight to see when 100 (or 90 after my initial cavalry charge tramples 10 of em) routing peasents cause 10 other enemy units full of fresh, though disheartened (since they were sent after the decimation of their primary assault wave), reinforcements to sprint the L.A. marathon back to their edge of the map. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

danielrech
01-08-2004, 04:25
Quote[/b] (Dillinger @ Jan. 07 2004,16:13)]High: Chivalric men-at-arms. Sturdy, dependable, and overall excellent unit, they can defeat virtually anything (As long as it isn't mounted ...) you can throw against them. Runner up - Cogs.

Late: Lancers. The best cavalry, period (.). Can, and will, beat anything aslong as they are handled properly. Runner up - Serpentines
I used to build a lot of CMAA, but then found out they were too much vulnerable to armor piercing units. I don't use them as much lately. Only use them if the enemy has lots of spearmen or to trap cavalry in the trees with them.

I made some tests with custom battles, putting Lancers vs Gothic Knights, and the GK's won most of the time. I think it may be their armor piercing bonus. Of course they are slow, so maybe you could outflank them with a unit of Lancers. But in a head-to-head engagement, the GK should win if they both have the same level of valour and armor/weapon upgrades.

Morcini
01-08-2004, 06:21
JANISSARY HEAVY INFANTRY.
Good against all units. Great stats. Best infantry in the game. The only thing which brings them down, is their cost. This is ofcourse for multi, it costs a ton to build up their stats. But alas, all you must do is protect their flanks and they will do no wrong in battle.

makkyo
01-08-2004, 22:56
My favorite unit is from STW. Battlefield ninjas
They're invisible untill its too late. They can sneak behind an entire army and assasinate the enemy general
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johnnybrigante
01-09-2004, 05:12
VI: berserkers. they aren't even properly clothed and they are only 12 but man these guys can wreak some havoc

Vanilla MTW: irish dartmen (LOTS of them) on a mountain. i've once had to defend ireland (or was it scotland?) with nothing but irish dartmen against the entire danish royal family. and let me tell you what a bloody-minded peasantry these dartmen are i was expecting to be trounced by their royal cavalry, but after a few volleys from some 700 angry irishmen the danish were already wavering, and a well-timed charge sent them running back to their longboats.

Gregoshi
01-09-2004, 07:57
Greetings johnny and welcome to the Org forums. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

I don't believe I've run into the Irish dartmen yet (among other unit types). They certainly don't sound very tough but your story tells otherwise. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-09-2004, 14:01
Quote[/b] ]i modded the beserkers making them a unit of 100, and speed of 40. They are not invincible but can now run down clavary http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Talk about an ÜBER unit... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif




Quote[/b] ]I love when an enemy throws in peasents as a last ditch... offense Seriously, I don't know why the enemy sends peasents with its armies as a reinforcement. I just charge at them with my cavalry and watch the ensuing carnage. It's a sight to see when 100 (or 90 after my initial cavalry charge tramples 10 of em) routing peasents cause 10 other enemy units full of fresh, though disheartened (since they were sent after the decimation of their primary assault wave), reinforcements to sprint the L.A. marathon back to their edge of the map. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

It is a sight indeed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif




Quote[/b] ]Vanilla MTW: irish dartmen (LOTS of them) on a mountain. i've once had to defend ireland (or was it scotland?) with nothing but irish dartmen against the entire danish royal family. and let me tell you what a bloody-minded peasantry these dartmen are i was expecting to be trounced by their royal cavalry, but after a few volleys from some 700 angry irishmen the danish were already wavering, and a well-timed charge sent them running back to their longboats.
Awesome I must try them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

BTW, welcome to the ORG, johnnybrigante http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Cazbol
01-09-2004, 14:35
My favourite units are the arquebusiers. They go *bang* and the enemy runs. So sweet and simple. The fact that almost noone else seems to like them only heightens my affinity to them.

Gregoshi
01-09-2004, 17:15
Quote[/b] ]The fact that almost noone else seems to like them only heightens my affinity to them.

That is funny you say that Cazbol. I felt the same way about the arqs in STW - before they (and muskets) became the in unit to have in your army along with the super ashi's. I lost complete interest in them once they became a must-have unit.

johnnybrigante
01-09-2004, 17:55
on i side note..... maybe i am confusing irish dartmen and kerns. i'm not sure which one it is since it's been a long long time since the last time i had to defend the british isles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif but i'm sure it is one of those bloodthirsty irish peasant units http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

and might i add that organ guns (3 of them) defending a castle gate also rank up as a personal favourite - once i had a fortress in tripoli producing organ guns, with no more garrisons as i was hunting the egyptian royal family and they hadn't counterattacked in years - only to have them invading tripoli with 2 full stacks i had only 9 organs guns there, so i retreated to the castle, but since the seas were blockaded i would need 2 turns to bring reinforcements. however, the next turn, they decided to assault the castle. i deployed the organ guns next to the gates, annoyed with their ridiculously short range (i never had used them before) and, as with the irishmen, i expected to be trampled over. after a few minutes, i was once again handed an unexpected win (special thanks to their suicidal general trying to break through the second barrage of organs ).......

and thanks for the warm welcome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-09-2004, 18:28
Quote[/b] ]on i side note..... maybe i am confusing irish dartmen and kerns.
I thought you were speaking of VI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Stupid me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif
I didn't paid enough attention(Vanilla MTW and Danes) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Since you are playing plain MTW, then it's Kerns you're talking about.

Yes, if used well, in a defensive position, they can be very effective. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Lord of the morning
01-10-2004, 01:42
As for infantry Id have to say vikings, they are cheap, powerfull and plentifull. There is nothing quite like a viking hord marching out of the forrest ambusing the few foolhardy knights that dare oppose them.

Later in the game when vikings are rather outdated Id have to go with heavy cav, preferably Royal gothic knights, but otherwise most any hevy cav unit will make me happy.

thrashaholic
01-10-2004, 18:21
My favorite unit has to be longbows (especially from Wales). Considering the amount of times I've completely decimated a vastly superior French army and the amount of times they've saved me in defensive situations it has to be them.

johnnybrigante
01-10-2004, 19:20
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Jan. 09 2004,15:28)]Since you are playing plain MTW, then it's Kerns you're talking about.

Yes, if used well, in a defensive position, they can be very effective. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
i'd say more fun than effective... i wouldn't send them on a crusade to tripoli. that situation with the royal knights only happened because i thought it was easier to build these cheap peasantry-sortof than to send spies to ireland (lazy eh), and i simply forgot them there with the danish fleet around.

kerns and organ guns are useful only in very specific situations, but when they're useful, they're also fun. that's what so great about them.

most effective unit? longbowmen. but i've just finished a campaing as the english, so i guess i've had my share of longbows. maybe next time i'll play as the turkish to try the janissaries........

......and probably it is stupid us because i mixed up the names in the first place http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

Degtyarev14.5
01-10-2004, 20:11
Berber camels.

I recall a battle between my Almos and the Egyptians in Algeria (I think) where my trusty camel archers - on the offensive - tore their foes to pieces. And the enemy army was not one of those peasant armies either; in fact it was quite respectable, and I really didn't expect to win.

What made that particular battle really memorable was the combination of a particularly rugged rock desert map with an endless and rather severe dust storm. It took the greater part of an hour to resolve, and most of that comprised of maneuvering and re-maneuvering my forces until I was finally able to prise the Egyptians away from their forbidding defensive positions. Then- CHARGE http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

A.

The_678
01-10-2004, 22:21
My favourite unit has to be Heavy cavalry of any kind. I find the Early Royal Knights to be particularly useful due to their cheap building requirements and can really help an Early era army out.
I remember once I campaigned into to the russian rebels homelands, with a full 16 army of Royal knights. I took over the entire Russian rebels area with this army. Every now and then I'd bring in reinforcements of more knights when it was getting small. In that campaign I must have had about 20 battle of 2000-3000 peasants (rebellion) against my army with a victory everytime. Man that was fun. And beleive it or not it was during my first ever game of M:TW. At the end of that campaign I my 2-star general became a 9-star with every good battle thing. I wrote down his stats and saved it.

1.Blood Lover- It has become known that he kills prisoners for his own pleasure, denying his men the share of the ransom money:+3 dread -2 piety -2 morale

2.Skilled Risky Attacks- He is skilled at attacking when outnumbered. +1 to command in this situation

3.Expert Attacker- He is an expert in the art of attacking defensive positions. +2 to command when attacking

4. Butcher- He is famous for the massacre of thousands of prisoners in a single battle. Few can match the horror of this deed. +2 dread

5.Skilled Last Stand- He is skilled in battles when outnumbered 2-1.+1 to command in this situation.

6. Field Defense Speacialist- He specializes in defending the field. +3 to command in this situation.

7.Charismatic- This mans personal aura inspires great efforts from, and the confidence of everyone he commands. +10 to happiness +1 to morale

To this date it's the best general I've ever had. This was before I found out releasing prisoners is smart and just killed them every battle. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Didn't mean to make such a long post, but meh. Oh, and besides heavy cav, my favourite unit is Viking Huscarles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

The Tuffen
01-29-2004, 01:34
My favorite unit is CMAA, although I'm starting to use Longbowmen a lot more. Did mod in Khazar Royal Cav and they r well good especially with high Valour.

hoom
01-29-2004, 03:25
Late Royal Knights
Militia Sergeants
Arbalesters
8+ Culverins in a stack (are just as accurate as a serpentine but knock down castles too)
Beserkers
Gallowglasses

the_rydster
01-29-2004, 05:13
VI - Beserkers.

MTW - English longbowmen - Only played this briefly (untill my save got corrupted) but my longbows bailed me out in a bloody battle with French Knights.

I have read about some supposedly hard units in VI such as Welsh bandits and Sherwood Foresters, although I can't see the latter in the Tech tree......looking forward to trying these out

Jags
01-30-2004, 10:32
Byz Cavalry & Spanish Jinetes.

Nothing is funnier than a horde of horse archers dancing around the enemy, pouring a rain of arrows and at the critical moment... BANG Charge from all sides

Ragss
01-30-2004, 11:23
longbows and welsh bandits for sure

The Tuffen
01-30-2004, 11:27
Quote[/b] ]I have read about some supposedly hard units in VI such as Welsh bandits and Sherwood Foresters, although I can't see the latter in the Tech tree......looking forward to trying these out

The Sherwood foresters can only be bribed from rebels. I think there is a certain province that you can get them in but I can't remember which - have a look around the dungeon as thats where i found out about them. The only other way to play with them is to mod them in. Their not bad - don't think you get too many in unit, helped me in a fight against the GH. Oh also they're hidden on the battlefield.

Aleksandr Nevsky
01-30-2004, 21:52
Camels are my favourite...

But only cause I like to kill them, they make such funny noises

And missile units are the best way to kill camels in my opinion, they just get torn to shreds.

Gward
01-30-2004, 22:32
It depends from enemy's army compound.

If he have heavy cavalry then halberdies is my choice. They are the terror of Mongol heavy cavalry or similar unit. It's our national russian game - hack mongols in the forest.

If he have horse archers, then i must have foot arhers. In any event 3-4 units of archers would be not out of place.

Militia Sergeants or Druzina cav. would be a good choice everytime.

Steppe cavalry for pursue and flank's attacks.

Boyars and heavy steppe cavalry for flank's attacks and skirmish.

And in the first place - armored rus spearmen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
They gives the time for all afore-mentioned units.

Gregoshi
01-31-2004, 05:53
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif Welcome to the Org Ragss and Gward. Enjoy your visits to our forums and don't be shy.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-31-2004, 06:01
Welcome to the ORG, Ragss and Gward http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Easthaven
01-31-2004, 08:30
Although I already posted my fav, I have another. Everytime I play the Spanish I truelly love those Jinettes. These dudes can be used for it all. Classic light cavalry to harass the flanks, beat down some archers, or keep enemy cavalry busy, missile units to turn even the well armored nobles into pin cushions...they think they can escape an arrow from an archer well try stopping a 2 meter stake striking at you like a lightning bolt. And with good enough valor they can make a decent heavy cav and if not then at least a medium cav. Their charge can slice through formations if you use them right, mainly rear or flank. And the bonus is they are fast and do very nicely in hewing off the heads of those marathon runners making for the hills A good all-around cav unit if you ask me. And though not my all time favorite, they are very cool to use.