Quick question about the Turks..

[Gambit]

Hopefully someone is able to answer my question here, as I do not at the moment have posting priveleges in the main forum (I am new here).

I'm playing as the Turks in a regular conquest game. It seems that I am only able to build one grand mosque- if this is true, does it mean that I am thus only able to make one province capable of creating Jannissaries?

If the answer to this is yes, would it work to simply destroy the grand mosque in one province, and build it in another, thus giving me access to the military academy in another? Would this be too cheap? I ask because I have never used the Turks before, and perhaps the Jannissaries are limited to production in one province because of their power.


Thanks

[The_Emperor]

Hiya, Gambit Welcome to the Org http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

I can answer your question.

Alright you can only build one Grand Mosque in the game...

However you can have as many military academy's as you wish. The trick is to build a Grand Mosque in one province (Bulgaria for example, which has a +2 valour bonus to Janissery heavy Infantry) build the military academy, and then destroy the grand mosque and build another one elsewhere, for example Georgia for its Janissery Archer Bonus.

It may take some years but it can be pulled off, but make sure you protect those military academy provinces like crazy Should those academy's get wrecked you'd have to start all over again...

And there you go multiple provinces pumping out Janisseries on command

However you could also MOD the game to allow multiple Grand Mosques to be built.

I hope this helps

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[Gambit]

Thanks so much.

Do you think that doing this is cheap, or okay? It seems all the other factions` main units are available in all provinces.


And is it easy to mod the game thus?

[The_Emperor]

Well it is a problem.

Originally in MTW the Cathedrals and Grand Mosques could be built anywhere and in any number.

But because each Cathedral and Grand Mosque gives a revenue to the player people were exploiting this by building multiple Mosques and Cathedrals everywhere and getting a massive increase in income... So in one of the early patches CA made it that you could only build one Cathedral and Grand Mosque so that the player couldn't make loads of money from this exploit.

Sadly though it did have a knock on effect for Turk Janissery Corps unit production. Whether this was intentional or not is anyone's guess.

EDIT: it is easy to MOD the Game since all the files are in .TXT format. Simply open them in Excel or some other program to edit them... I do not know what file or line you have to change but I am sure someone else does.

[MuseRulez]

You should try the Gnome-editor. Load Crusader_Unit_Prod_11, go to a Jannissary unit and delete the military academy from the building recuirments.
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[Quokka]

As the Janissaries are the only unit that require the Military Academy to be built, simply removing that requirement is a bit cheesy.

In answer to your first question The Emperor explained it well. Not too many provinces will be able to get the required buildings too quickly and the build time for the Grand Mosque means that Military Academies will come at decent intervals, so the tactic while not 100% kosher is not too unbalancing.

The Janissaries are very powerful troops, especially the JHI, and by the time that you get more than 1 province building them you will probably not need more than 1 province building them as you will be well on the way to victory.

Editing is very easy using the Gnome Editor. Remember to make backups of the originals before you do anything. After that you can make any changes you want. WARNING Modding the game can become addictive.