MetalSmiths: Problem

[Gauthijm]

As my description says, I am playing the Almohads, and we are now in 1160 AD

I have all the Iberian provinces with IRON resources, I think that is about 4 of them...

I have Castles (Level 3 ) in all of these provinces as well, and they are fairly well-developped anyway.

I even have Blacksniths in all of these provinces, mostly of the Level 1 variety (1 is level 2 blacksmith)

I still do not get the choice to build my MetalSmiths in these 4 provinces...

What am I missing ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Is there a date where it starts ? I am , as I said earlier, in 1160 or so, close to 80 years of development in the Game.

As the Almohads, I won all of Iberia, the North Africa, Egypt, the Turcish lands and all of the Byzantine Empire + Khazar/Lithuania/Livonia...

Can someone fill me ?

save Game available upon request

thx
Jean

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]I even have Blacksniths in all of these provinces, mostly of the Level 1 variety (1 is level 2 blacksmith)

I still do not get the choice to build my MetalSmiths in these 4 provinces...
OK, let me get this straight. You have 3 Level 1 and 1 Level 2 blacksmiths... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ...huuuuummmm... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ...tell me, what's a blacksmith in the game?

[NewJeffCT]

A fort and a keep do not allow you to build a metalsmith. You need a castle for the lowest level metalsmith (the castle that takes 12 years and 2000 florins to build). A citadel (16 years and 4000 florins) allows you to build a level 2 metalsmith, or metalsmith's workshop. While you need a fortress (20 years and 8000 florins) to build the level 3 metalsmith, or guild, as well as the big level 4 master metalsmith.

[Gauthijm]

Ok, I must have explained pretty badly what I meant...

Sigh...

I ** think ** I have all the pre-requisites such as the

Castle (level 3 Fortification)
Iron in the 4 affected provinces...

and in some cases I even have the Blacksmiths; unrelated but shows that I can built with armour upgrades; that works...

But I NEVER get the choice to build Metalsmiths.

It is in 1160 as well; is there a time that is becomes active ?

What am I doing wrong ?

jean

[Yoko Kono]

i think, but dont quote me on this, that may need the swordsmith type building as a prerequisite, the one that would give FMAA or their islamic equivalents

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Yoko Kono is right. You need a swordsmith before the option to build a metalsmith is available.

BTW, it isn't blacksmith, it's armourer... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Basileus]

heh someone has been playing shogun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

indeed you need swordsmith to be able and then upgrade to citadel to be able to upgrade your metalsmith and then fortress to get the third upgrade etc

[Gauthijm]

Bingo

I built the swordsmith and presto...

I am no able to build the metalsmith..

That is not on any tech chart no ?

Thx to all who helped out

[Revenant69]

Well, according to the chart that came with MTW, you only need a castle to build a metalsmith. This is confirmed by a more trusty source of Frogbeastegg's and Bushface's guide.

So, to put it short you only need IRON in the resource panel of the province and you need to have a castle.

Your predicament is very curious.

If your game is for VI 2.01 then send me a savegame.
xRevenant69x@hotmail.com

Hopefully this can be fixed.

Cheers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

EDIT as far as i know you DO NOT need a swordsmith, but whatever.

[Basileus]

Quote[/b] (Revenant69 @ Jan. 08 2004,09:01)]EDIT as far as i know you DO NOT need a swordsmith, but whatever.
I think its so, btu sometime you dont get metalsmith with out swordsmith which is kinda strange..

[Yoko Kono]

Revenant69 is quite correct
im using 2.01 and just tested his theory by building only a fort, a keep and then a castle in carpathia, so the province has a keep and nothing more, and the option to build a metalsmith is now present