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Ikken Hisatsu
01-15-2004, 12:48
anyone ever actually use them? I mean they take so long to get that it hardly seems worth the effort given their fairly bad stats... cavalry are generally used as shock troops but their charge sucks, they dont have armour pierce like teutons, their armour is good but slows them down so they arent fast flankers either.... they dont have the numbers of a unit of swordsmen... I just cant see any use for them at all.

torsoboy
01-15-2004, 12:58
Well, you could try and have them destroyed like dirty french frogs.

DeadRunner
01-15-2004, 13:07
hmmm about gendarmes i dot know nothing about them

try use the lancers

Ikken Hisatsu
01-15-2004, 14:04
well i would but my games dont often get to late, and even the comp doesnt seem to use them ;)

MuseRulez
01-15-2004, 14:06
Hey Torsboy What do you mean with dirty french frogs? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-huh2.gif

.:vVv:.Monkey
01-15-2004, 16:56
Quote[/b] (MuseRulez @ Jan. 15 2004,08:06)]Hey Torsboy What do you mean with dirty french frogs? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-huh2.gif
lol, at least he didn't say cheese eating surrender monkeys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Basileus
01-15-2004, 17:06
With the cavalary that you´ll have at the time gendearms are preety worthless. Thats my opinion of course, i tend to use Chivalric cav. I used to build Gendarms mostly because i thought they looked good they didnt pack a punch though

Gregoshi
01-15-2004, 21:58
Quote[/b] (MuseRulez @ Jan. 15 2004,07:06)]Hey Torsboy What do you mean with dirty french frogs? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-huh2.gif
Look under Ikken's avatar (picture) on the left where one puts ones location. That is what torsoboy is referring to.

BTW, welcome to the Org MuseRulez and .:vVv:.Monkey. Er, Monkey, I think you get the award for name that is the biggest pain in the butt to type in. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif

Funky Phantom
01-15-2004, 21:58
All 3 factions that can get them have better alternative Knights. The French have +1 valor Chiv Knights in Toulouse, the Italians have Gothic Knights and the Spanish have Lancers.

From this, its very hard to see the point to them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

Dillinger
01-15-2004, 22:28
Besides being an elite militian unit and looking completely bad (Meaning, of course cool), there is little point to them. I have modded it for lower build requirements and availability in high, so they now serve a purpose.

.:vVv:.Monkey
01-15-2004, 22:32
Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ Jan. 15 2004,15:58)]
Quote[/b] (MuseRulez @ Jan. 15 2004,07:06)]
BTW, welcome to the Org MuseRulez and .:vVv:.Monkey. Er, Monkey, I think you get the award for name that is the biggest pain in the butt to type in. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-beam.gif What a great award Thanks for the welcome, much appreciated. I am registered on dozens of UT2003 forums with this name so I didn't want to change it. Makes it easier to keep track of my username and passwords http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-rolleyes.gif

Just call me monkey heheh http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

-monkey

Duerfian
01-16-2004, 03:32
I haven't really found much use for them. Sometimes I have them in my armies just for variety. By the time you get access to them few battles are do-or-die-type anyway.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-16-2004, 03:51
Well, their only advantage is training and support cost. They really aren't Knights, they're armoured horsemen of not noble lineage... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif

I'm seriously thinking about modding their melee and their requirements. If not, I agree, they aren't worth the bother... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-no.gif

BTW, welcome to the ORG, .:vVv:.Monkey http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

bighairyman
01-16-2004, 05:12
i don't usually use them, i mean, u have feduale knights and chavril knights.BTW, i'm taking french class, doesn't gendarmes mean police in french or something? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

Brutal DLX
01-16-2004, 10:17
I think they are a flavour unit like some others in the game. They are cheaper than Chiv Knights, have a lesser charge but about the same melee capability. Usually they are a byproduct when I tech up for pikemen, then you only need a master swordsmith and you can train good cavalry.
Generally speaking, I tend to use all units that are available to the faction I'm playing as.

Fragony
01-16-2004, 11:14
My favorite unit Why you ask? When you reach the late era you want pikemen. You have probably reached the requirements to build them in most provinces. Now just add a master swordsmith and what do you have? LOADS and LOADS of superheavy cavalry. Most factions have only a few provinces for cavalryproduction at that stage, gendarmes are great. Viva la france

Kaboom
01-16-2004, 11:31
yes gendarm is better than feudal knight and comparable to chivaric knight but less charge and less armor. The charge bonus don't last long and don't different much. Someone I think have discount on them, so build them

Wes made them useful in his mod