View Full Version : A lil help or insight please
Galestrum
01-16-2004, 02:56
Ok so I am finally happy with my mod and i start playtesting it, everything seems fine and then usually around 20 years into it i hit the end turn button and the game freezes and i have to restart my computer. I have realoaded and restarted, even went back a few years and yet when the game hits 1107 the game freezes when i hit end turn.
Ive never had this happen before so im not sure if this is my computer being wierd or because of my mod - any idea what would cause this or anything similar happen to people when they designed thier mods?
Duke John
01-16-2004, 08:04
That's a tough one to get when you think you're all set and done. However to get some good help you really should explain what you have done. It makes a big difference if you have only changed units, or if have added another faction.
Cheers, Duke John
ShadesWolf
01-16-2004, 08:24
Urm.... Sorry to tell you this Galestrum But I have in the past had the same problem..... and I could not find out what the answer was.
So I had to restart my mod from scratch.
The only thing I can say is somethng you have changed does not work, either you have the wrong faction flag number somewhere etc.....
One problem I found was I had a faction siting in a province, and it took me about 10 turns to meet them, what I didnt notice was every time a ship/ princess, diplomat etc went towards there province the game crashed.... What the problem was I had a spelling mistake in the flag name and the game couldnt find it so it crashed...
I am sorry to say that finding the problem could be like looking for a needle in a haystack http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-disappointed.gif
Galestrum
01-16-2004, 19:00
heh yeah i have been working on this mod off and on for 6 months or so when i could find the time and never have i had this sort of thing happen. Well here is what i have done in brief.
Running MTW:VI patched
I have modded the stats of many units, but the crash hasnt resulted during a battle or anything nor has MTW failed to load which is what usually happens in a unit related problem so i dont think this is it. Also some building modification (crus 11 & 13)
I modified the names files for certain unit(s) and faction(s) and they have all worked fine too.
Campmap has been exhaustively changed, new trade, province ownership, cultural changes, buidling etc etc etc.
I made all factions playable and added the Burgundians and the Russians to early and made them the Flemish and Cumans respectively. I also used the color coding for territories and flags for the Mongols and gave it to the Russians so there wasnt just a blue mass on the steppes.
I am guessing that it has something to do with either the of the (2) "new factions" but i find it odd they work fine for the first 20 years and then poof.
I also did some minor modification of the heroes file, basically just switching around el cid to the spanish and tancred and bohemund to the sicilians.
I know earlier in the week i got past 1107 but i cant recall any major thing i have modded since then, i figured i was finally done and now here comes some piddly lil poop stain of a mod-buggy to ruin my day http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-cry.gif
I was hoping this was a "known" thing even though i had never encountered it, im so disgusted right now im prby just gonna pout for a few more days before getting back at it hehe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif
Lord Of Storms
01-17-2004, 03:07
When reading your post and thinking about your troubles, something hit me when I saw this line http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-idea2.gif
Quote[/b] ]I also did some minor modification of the heroes file, basically just switching around el cid to the spanish and tancred and bohemund to the sicilians.
The thing about heroes is they take 20 years to spawn, so say you create a hero and the apearance date in the file is set at 1087 that means he will show in the province designated in 1107
so there may be something wrong with one of your heroes that is causing the problem Name, Portrait ,culture difference whatever, I would try to restore the original Heroes file and run your mod and see if it does indeed make a difference...LOS
Galestrum
01-17-2004, 05:03
Thanks guys for your help, particularly Lord of Storms - i checked the heroes file and el cid was set to spawn in Valencia, which i had given to the moors, while making him a spanish general. I switched the spawn point from valencia and switched it to limbo, and tested afterwards by just clicking thru the years, i got all the way to the mid 1120s which is FAR farther than I had gotten before and decided that i think the problem is solved so now ill give it a real go http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-party2.gif
Thank you sooo much, it is always the small lil things when modding that you never think about that trips me up, hopefully my problem is solved http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-balloon.gif and thanks so much, other then a few more refinements and questions i need answering my mod(s) should be ready to roll out http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-happy2.gif
The only other things i really need to learn is why when i add entirely new heroes does the names of ALL the factions leaders turn into numerals AND how exactly i change the build probabilities. The latter is i really wanna tweak the AI into building more "elite" armies instead of all spear/missile armies.
Anyways, for now ill be playtesting http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-computer.gif and hopefully no more issues, yet again THANK YOU so much Storm, i would never have though that this simple thing of valencia vs. limbo would cause the problem. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thumbsup.gif
If i learn how to add "new" heroes to the hero file i will make a "lord of storms" hero, what faction and date do you wanna appear? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-shocked.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-tongue2.gif
Galestrum
01-17-2004, 05:06
Btw, i just noticed that you are from Florida. I am from Daytona beach http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-happy2.gif whereabouts is paisley?
Lord Of Storms
01-17-2004, 05:16
Glad to help mate, like you said it seems alsways the simplest things trip us up, Daytona I am only 1 hr away from there Paisley is Near the Lake County, Volusia County border I live Near the Ocala National Forest off state rd 42 , During Bike week all the bikers take 42 into deland through to Daytona so its just a hop away, small world eh, anyway glad your trouble is solved, as for adding Heroes see my topic on the subject in the Repository, the Dungeons FAQ thread last page, I posted a few bits about additions to VI, New trade goods, Heroes etc. if I can be of any more assitance let me know, cheers mate http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thumbsup.gif ...LOS
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