Which game style do you prefer?

[PseRamesses]

I rarely see you guys play GA-style, which I prefer. So what´s it gonna be, do you dominate or play strategic?

[The_Emperor]

I like domination mode the most, (I guess I just love to crush europe in my mailed fist)

But GA does have its own appeal, and I do like to do that from time to time.

[Basileus]

GA with an RPG style of play, at least its so nowdays

[Hetman_Koronny]

*bows*

GA is my favorite play. I think it's more challenging.

*bows*

[Quokka]

Quote[/b] (Basileus @ Jan. 22 2004,21:55)]GA with an RPG style of play, at least its so nowdays
The same for me. Makes it more interesting to use the character of the Faction rather than just building different troops and squashing everyone else.

I also get to build some buildings that I rarely build otherwise, the University and Cathedral.

[DeadRunner]

GA for me m8

[*Ringo*]

Domination only for me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-embarassed.gif I don't really like crusading; and the factions I like to play most don't seem to have any decent GA's to achieve http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif I've not played too many GA campaigns tho, so I may be talking rubbish? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

Regards

*Ringo*

[o_loompah_the_delayer]

GA if catholic, fighting in the desertt is a lot more challenging than beating up other catholics in Europe Two of the best campaigns I had was as France going for the Krak de Chev and as HRE trying to hang on to Italy and Rome, despite the Pope, and going east.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

GA only. Although I always achieve a naval and military domination over the other factions. But, I think GA objectives make the game more varied, interesting and less boring. In fact, for some factions (France, HRE), these GA are hard to achieve which increases the appeal of the game. If I can, I try not to eliminate too many factions. I like to keep them balanced. If one gets too strong I just raid it to weaken it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif

[makkyo]

I like GA, but once I do acieve it I always want to finish of the job. Some GA's are harder than others though... some GA's though seem a little pointless and then I'd much rather conquor the world.

[PseRamesses]

Well, I must´a been mistaken. GA´s leading by 15%. That´s a twist I didn´t expect http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif

[kawligia]

I've never played GA before. I just looked at the requirements for the first time a couple days ago and they are pretty simple for the most part. Hold on to your homelands, and conquer other provences. Some catholic factions need to launch a crusade or two.

Not too different from what you do in conquest. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

To make the game more challanging for me, I just play as the more difficult factions...right now I am the pope And no I'm not using any mods that give more income or lets me do crusades either.

[Bezalel]

Maybe, I should try this GA thing you guys are talkin' about. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-surprised.gif I'm one of those people that judges books and stuff by the title (not people though, at least I try no to). So, GA didn't sound that fun to me so I just played domination all the time. I also dont really go ror tutorial or manuals, too impatient.

[johnnybrigante]

GA's??? with most factions you'll still have to either conquer most of europe, or stop another faction from doing so. i'd rather start a roleplay-minded conquest campaign and set my own goals.

[Aelwyn]

I have played in Glorius Achievement mode, but I don't like the idea of someone else telling me what to do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I enjoy dominating, not getting points for holding land or other such things.

[PseRamesses]

It´s more of a challenge to follow the path of history I think. You can still go for conquest or have your own RPG-agenda. Unfortunately the game is not balanced enough after the first 100 years to play GA. After that it´s all about numbers that´s why I´ve a wet dream about merging Europa Universalis II and the MTW battle-engine, mmmmm

[Voigtkampf]

Total domination; it includes all achievements.

[insolent1]

To win a game in GA mode you have to conquer most of Europe so the only difference between the two is in GA mode you get some annoying objectives that interrupt your plans.
GA is fairly pointless all the objectives are easily completed & the AI still plays the same so it makes GA kinda pointless. In my current HRE campaign its 1160 & I hold over 70% of map the funny thing was I was only tryin to achieve my GA goals but I had to hurt factions that constantly attacked me for no real reason except to try & grab some poor provinces. I have to say though I enjoyed wiping out the French, hungarians, papacy, Italians, Polish & danes in about 20 turns.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]GA is fairly pointless all the objectives are easily completed
Easy?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif

Try building Le Krack des Chevaliers while playing with the French... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif

[Basileus]

Indeed thats one thing that annoys me, AI never does much to complete its GA goals, if that would be fixed in RTW it would rock for me anyway heh.

[SirGrotius]

Why are there no Glorious Achievements for the Viking Campaign? Or am I just retarded and haven't seen that option? You'd imagine that Vikings or even Scots http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif could have their glorious moments.

[Myrano]

The lack of GA in VI was the only major disappointment that I had with it. I enjoy the GAs immensely... I look at it this way: even if you don't intend on really going for them, just check the GA box anyway... you can still win by conquering

[hoom]

I play GA now.
You can still win by domination but you get to earn points along the way as well & it tends to ease the pressure to expand.
GA allows you to sit back with a comfortable size country & consolidate/develop your provinces/trade while still often winning the game.

[insolent1]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Jan. 23 2004,08:34)]
Quote[/b] ]GA is fairly pointless all the objectives are easily completed
Easy?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif

Try building Le Krack des Chevaliers while playing with the French... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink2.gif
I have built it a number of times, its not hard if you plan for it at the start. I always go for Wessex(I remove the english from mainland europe in first 4 years) & Aragon as these can be quickly teched up for barques. The egyptians build mountains of peasants so I send down mountains of highlandclansmen. Once Tripoli is secured I ship down 3 more crusades for Antioch, Palestine & Edessa & move to finish off the egyptians. I Then go for the almohads as this will mean I don't have to fight in the desert anymore & I can start building armourers. The stupid thing is when 1205 comes around the byzantines normally have more GA points just because they held their homelands & conquered some of the steps.

[PseRamesses]

I surprised to see so many GA-players. Starting this poll I thought domination would win by 8-2. But with roughly 1/3 play domina, 1/3 GA and 1/3 GA with domina in the end it´s really a credit to A.V´s implementation of a few but decisive goals that will turn your whole game style around. I do hope that A.V will keep or extend this feature of the game when they release RTW don´t you think?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]The egyptians build mountains of peasants so I send down mountains of highlandclansmen.
ROTFL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Good move... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thumbsup.gif




Quote[/b] ]Once Tripoli is secured I ship down 3 more crusades for Antioch, Palestine & Edessa & move to finish off the egyptians. I Then go for the almohads as this will mean I don't have to fight in the desert anymore & I can start building armourers. The stupid thing is when 1205 comes around the byzantines normally have more GA points just because they held their homelands & conquered some of the steps.
That's why I always like to control enemy factions power. I never try to eliminate them. I attack the most threatning. But that seems to waste me some precious time. I get defeated by time. I managed to buit it in one out of three tries, though.

[TheSilverKnight]

I play GA, but don't conquer, because I like to keep balance in Europe. It isn't fun for me anymore qhen I crush my enemies and become the ruler of Europe in 200 years. I set a goal to build a lot of trading and just to keep my state alive. I also do the glory goals for crusading and stuff, which is very fun. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Monk]

I havn't played GA since i installed MM, it messes them up iirc. But what i do is i "role play". If I'm Byzantine i will Conquer all of the Former Roman empire, and nothing more until around 1300 when i start the race to dominate everything. It can get pretty hectic since you are not taking more provinces only defending and since the last Catholic Kingdoms begin to team up on you.

or as the Turks: defeat the Byzantines and claim Constantinople, then take Egypt and nothing more. then same as above.

Any Catholic state it goes like this: be a good "Christian" and not attack others of the same faith, launch crusades, set up a Crusader Kingdom. Try not to expand until attacked first, then unleash hell. It can get pretty fun, esp if i get into character (it's surprising but if you let it you can get into it real easy)

[Fragony]

I like GA more, but there are only 2 factions that stay challenging till the end. My absolute favorite is france, building that Krak while constantly fighting of spain and most of the time hungary can be very tricky. They also have swifting homelands, at a certain point you will have to take on the byzantines, which is has a huge impact on your income. The other great GA game is as germany, but it starts out too big for my taste. GA as germany is pretty damn hard, you have to crusade despite being very weak in the beginning, and when you fail a crusade you lose half your empire because of civil wars. Add an inevitable war with the papacy and you have a tense game till the end

[PseRamesses]

I agree with Fragony that France and HRE are good thoughout the game. Personally I get pissed to see a super-faction emerge in EVERY game so I actually tried a new thing a while back.
I started a GA-game on early as the Turks, which I never played before, and when I reached high I started a new GA-game in high and so forth. Ok, I lost some of my provinces, upgrades, armies etc but now playing GA-style was actually fun ALL the way. Usually I´m only enjoying the first 100-150 years. Which is why I rarely finish a game.

[MiniKiller]

so u can play in GA mode then select domination????

[Mount Suribachi]

GAs. But like others have said, they are too lame - mostly conquest & homelands related. There are too few interesting ones, so it still becomes a game where you win by conquering more territory than everyone else http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif Sadly it appears you can't mod the GAs, cos if you could.......

[PseRamesses]

Quote[/b] (MiniKiller @ Feb. 06 2004,21:28)]so u can play in GA mode then select domination????
No, I played GA-style through all ages so I actually "lost " the games on "early" and high" but I did this because during a period of 100-150 years this game is reasonable balanced but after that there´s always some unstoppable superpowers that emerges and I don´t appreciate that. I´d love to find a way to stop factions from doing "unhistorical" things like the Egyptians going through Constantinopel aiming for the Balkans, The Almohads bursting out upon the French and Italians or the French taking over the Brittish isles and taking half of Europe. Somenoe on this forum should really look into this so that when you play GA-style the rebellions in conquered factions "heartlands" should never stop - that´s to say within a period of 30-60 years.

[Random Ronin]

I prefer to play not to win but to play the game for all it is worth.

I decide on a chosen empire to create (As French, I decided to establish my Banner in England, south to the "Spanish Alps" or Pyrannes (Spelling may not be right),east to the Oder river, and north to Denmark, leaving Italy, Poland, Scandinavia, and Spain as my neighbors), I then build up my empire totally, maintaining a massive military exclusively for the purposes of maintaining what I got, not seizing more. Once I am comfortable with the state of my empire, I then start playing politics/alliances with the other players who remain. I help the Italians in their war with Spain, I help the Byzantines kick Turkish arse, and I help the Turks kill the Byzantines when it suits my fancy. Once I have my empire established, I do not hold any territory with the intention to keep it permanently, an example being when I occupied Sicily to put the Italians on a leash, saving the Polish from being forced to use a language that didn't have a "ski" on the end of every word. In turn, the Polishski savedski theski Turkskis fromski doomski byski kickingski theski Byzantineski inski theski ass.

[Random Ronin]

I prefer to play not to win but to play the game for all it is worth.

I decide on a chosen empire to create (As French, I decided to establish my Banner in England, south to the "Spanish Alps" or Pyrannes (Spelling may not be right),east to the Oder river, and north to Denmark, leaving Italy, Poland, Scandinavia, and Spain as my neighbors), I then build up my empire totally, maintaining a massive military exclusively for the purposes of maintaining what I got, not seizing more. Once I am comfortable with the state of my empire, I then start playing politics/alliances with the other players who remain. I help the Italians in their war with Spain, I help the Byzantines kick Turkish arse, and I help the Turks kill the Byzantines when it suits my fancy. Once I have my empire established, I do not hold any territory with the intention to keep it permanently, an example being when I occupied Sicily to put the Italians on a leash, saving the Polish from being forced to use a language that didn't have a "ski" on the end of every word. In turn, the Polishski savedski theski Turkskis fromski doomski byski kickingski theski Byzantineski inski theski ass.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Playing the other players off each other is far more fun than playing to conquer them all. Besides, if all you did was conquer, then you would just be another meglomaniacal footnote in a boring history book, not a guy a who is beloved by his people for centuries to come. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Akka]

I don't see the point of playing "Conquest", as playing GA allows you to conquer anyway, and the GA victory doesn't kick in before the end of the game.

Playing Conquest just remove something without adding anything.

[PseRamesses]

Quote[/b] (Akka @ Feb. 13 2004,06:30)]Playing Conquest just remove something without adding anything.
I totally agree. You musta been like a oracle or a very wise man in an earlier life. Salutations

[gaijinalways]

I've tried both and I can't say which is better. In my current game, I may win with GA just by grabbing enough turf. As the Italians almost no one is trading with me now as just about every one is attacking me (with good reason, I almost wiped out most od th French and the Spanish with the Byz finally attacking my navy)

Garabbing territory is still important either way.

[Togakure]

Domination only so far. I will try GAs eventually. I haven't had enough time to play domination games all the way through with all of the factions yet, so I've been saving GA games for later--after I've played all of the factions in domination mode successfully.

One of the things I love about these games is the opportunity to function as the strategic commander-in-chief. Therefore, having the game set objectives (GAs) for me seems like it would be a bit annoying. But, I haven't tried it yet. Once I've had my fill of conquest from all angles "my way," the challenge will remain to conquer within GA parameters.

So many ways to enjoy these TW games ... one of the reasons why I like them so much.

[Eastside Character]

Mostly GA. Not too many options provided in the poll.

Regards,
EC

[Black Arrow]

GA can be great fun. Simply fortifying the western Med, allying the turks and the egyptians and fighting off the endless crusades is very satisfying. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif

[biguth dickuth]

i prefer the glorious achievments type of gaming because you have more options than just crushing every opposition to the last single province.
besides, in the world domination type, after you have conquered the 60 provinces, the game starts to get a little boring, unless of course a civil war breaks out.

i voted for the third option, however, because even in "glorious achievments", i don't mind whipping out the other factions, once in a while http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Sociopsychoactive]

I started my first serious GA game not long ago, after having a couple of disasterous ones. I decided on the french, after seeing posts about them being one of the more interesting, albeit harder, GA factions, and having never played them on domination (though I have completed it with most factions on domination now).

And I LOVE IT I thought the GA goals would be rather boring, homelands, conquest and crusades but the Krak required a very quick crusade, adn for the past 50 years I've been fighting off hordes of turks and egyptians (often at the same time) in tripli, while willing the keep to build fatser, then the caste and so on. THe other crusades were good and all, but with three succsefull ones I'm now leading in GA points, without actually expanding out of france, save the three crusader kingdoms.

Now I'm teching up for a cathedral in ille de france, and I think I could actually win on oints without having to expand, even to rebel held lands, and therefore won't be hated and despised by the rest of the world. Glorious Achievments is Glorious

Unfortunately, I voted in this poll a while ago, before really trying GA, so voter for domination. Chalk one more for GA only, and one less for domination if you really care that much.

[katank]

I too like the third option as though I can win through GAs alone, I can't bear not to go for ultra land grab at the very end as my navies usually encompass all of the seas and an all out amphibious attack that takes out a moderate sized faction in two turns is just fun.

I agree with some of the others on the French and HRE being the most fun in GA as building the Krak while shooting for notre dame and saint chappelle is pretty hard while the stuff like restoration of the Holy Roman Empire and Osten dracht nacht (sp?) or the crusading is cool while trying not to get excommed or getting attack by everyone.

[Seven.the.Hun]

Dominaton is the only way...

[Fortebraccio]

I strongly prefer GA campaigns to Domination ones, although GAs could have been represented far better in the game. Personally I dislike the fact that mere conquest may award up to 1 GA point per province conquered, regardless to their significance to the faction's historical interests/area of influence.

[katank]

I think there was a thread recently upon how to mod GA points for province ownership.

I think this can be very interesting IMHO. So try and do that so maybe you get a fairer GA game.

I certainly hate the GA system giving points for random conquests.

In fact, I think it should give negative points for conquests that are not your homelands beyond a certain point.

So for example you may have 10 provinces of grace before you get hit by a -2 per province or something to prevent rampant conquests in GA games.

[Mouzafphaerre]

Quote[/b] (Basileus @ Jan. 22 2004,16:55)]GA with an RPG style of play, at least its so nowdays
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That exactly GA with a preset model in my mind.
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[Crash]

GA, all the way

Actually, I find that the GA game is not that different from Domination, but it does give you more options for victory, so there's no reason not play GA instead of Domination. I like the fact that I can win without conquering 60 percent of the provinces, even though I usually end up doing that anyway before the end of the gam. Not feeling the pressure of having to conquer more and more provinces, knowing that I can still win the game even if I don't, makes the game more enjoyable for me.

[VikingHorde]

I have never played GA, maybe I should give it a try.

[oblivious maximus]

GA here. I never play with a general of more than five stars ,then trade & crusade.