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How does the the computer decide whether you die or not? is there a chance every season which gets greater and greater as you age? I only ask because I once ended a campaign with a 100+ year old, and then yesterday, takeda shingen has to go and die of an 'illness' at 64. also. why can;t heirs be adopted?. This was commonplace in feudal Japan. anyways. yesterday, i realized how much history changes in this game, and it is a lot more fun when you know about it.
ex: yesterday hojo clan died in about 1580 when in reality, hojo ujimasa and ujinao were part of the last clan to be 'united' under toyotomi hideyoshi.
well, i just realized how cool this was yestereday.
yes, i am now done rambling.
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Cowardice is born from bravery.
Weakness is born from strength.
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Anssi Hakkinen
03-05-2002, 09:06
Technically, heirs are adopted when the computer decrees it - the later Uesugi and Oda heirs are members of another clan, the Date and Toyotomi, respectively. But we still have to follow the historical sequence in this respect; the only eligible heir candidates are the ones who really were.
Personally, I find the initial daimyô a bit too long-lived to be believable... It's outright embarrassing to have a 90-year-old daimyô when you know he died at the age of 40 or so in real life. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/redface.gif
Therefore, I usually consign Takeda Nobutora into retirement in Kai by 1560 at the very latest unless he can't be spared from the front. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/cool.gif
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"A person who does not want to be struck by the enemy's arrows will have no divine protection. For a man who does not wish to be hit by the arrows of a common soldier, but rather by those of a warrior of fame, there will be the protection for which he has asked."
- Yamamoto Tsunetomo: Hagakure
I go even further. Most of my Daimyos didn't get to fight even one single battle during their entire life. I just put them in a castle guarded by a lot of ninja/shinobi.
KensaiAkechi
03-06-2002, 10:32
lol i was fighting the second to last battle of my campaign as Uesugi on hard difficulty a few months after i bought this game and my 90 year old daiymo died in battle and he had no heirs...imagine how pissed you would be
DeathOnaPaleHorse
03-06-2002, 11:58
Is it just me, or does the first Shimazu Daimyo reproduce like a rabbit?
[This message has been edited by DeathOnaPaleHorse (edited 03-06-2002).]
Sword_Monkey
03-06-2002, 13:46
Quote Originally posted by DeathOnaPaleHorse:
Is it just me, or does the first Shimazu Daimyo reproduce like a rabbit?
[This message has been edited by DeathOnaPaleHorse (edited 03-06-2002).][/QUOTE]
Hell, I've had heirs only 3 years younger than me as Shimazu. Not only is he a rabbit, he's a precocious rabbit.
Quote Originally posted by Sword_Monkey:
Hell, I've had heirs only 3 years younger than me as Shimazu. Not only is he a rabbit, he's a precocious rabbit.[/QUOTE]
Has it ever occured to your guys that those "heirs" might be his BROTHERS?
As a matter of fact, Shimazu Yoshihisa was lucky in that he had three brave younger brothers fighting by his side: Yoshihiro, Iehisa, and Toshihisa.
And yes, there father Shimazu Takahisa was well-endowed.
[This message has been edited by Gothmog (edited 03-06-2002).]
DeathOnaPaleHorse
03-06-2002, 23:11
Hmmm.... Gothmog speaks the truth... as for being well endowed, how would you know? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Sword_Monkey
03-06-2002, 23:44
Quote Originally posted by Gothmog:
Has it ever occured to your guys that those "heirs" might be his BROTHERS?
As a matter of fact, Shimazu Yoshihisa was lucky in that he had three brave younger brothers fighting by his side: Yoshihiro, Iehisa, and Toshihisa.
And yes, there father Shimazu Takahisa was well-endowed.
(edited 03-06-2002).][/QUOTE]
I had figured either they were brothers or your Daimyo's initial age was randomly determined. Either way, boy is a rabbit. I don't know when he finds the time to sire all those children with me keeping on the battlefield.
SomeYoungGuy
03-07-2002, 01:22
I would just like to report that my guy been having 4 new born baby boy in the pass 5 years or so.
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Gaxebo-sama
03-08-2002, 10:55
My Takeda Nobutora reach 112 years old. hehehe.
BTW, Gothmog, what reference you use for the Shimazu story ? Is there any web I can check ? thanks in advance
Quote Originally posted by Gaxebo-sama:
My Takeda Nobutora reach 112 years old. hehehe.
BTW, Gothmog, what reference you use for the Shimazu story ? Is there any web I can check ? thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
Check the forum of "Japanese history and cinema", you will find a lot of intesting information there.
I have never had a daimyo live past 60
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