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it becomes harder and harder to play a game... noone will join sometimes there are 10 guys not in game and they dont join....
sometimes there are more "free" and they dont join!!
hmmm, maybe i miss the point but what i do wrong?
i host 1v1 i host 2v2 3v3 and 4v4 some comps, some friendly... anyway i just want a game and some fun, but in last time i waster 3 hours or 4 and play just 2 or 3 games...
thats stupid in my eyes... im bored of this game....
koc
Gregoshi
03-08-2002, 22:55
koc, have you tried inviting a specific player into one of your games? I ask because I know when I used to play online, there seemed to be groups of friends that would play each other. Being a little on the shy side, I'd stay out of many games because I felt like I'd be intruding into their little gaming group. However, I would play if someone invited me personally into a game.
Maybe some of these people you are seeing are just shy and need a little encouragement. Another thought is that they are newbies who aren't sure how the whole online thing works.
Or maybe your legendary reputation scares them off. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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[This message has been edited by Gregoshi (edited 03-08-2002).]
Toda Nebuchadnezzar
03-08-2002, 23:11
Don't gorget also that some players may not have all the maps that you do, and so will not be able to join some of your games.
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GAH! The perennial nightmare online, this is. I, as koc, have noticed the same phenomenon.
And I doubt these peeps are true newbies. I think they are intimidated by the games up.
That or they see a pile of hosted games all on 'ironing board' and they find it dull and they just wait for somebody to throw up a 'Vanya' map for some real fun in the sun...
hmmm, i asked in the room... wich map?
koku?...2v2?....
some sadi host totomi... i did, but they didnt joined...
i offerd them to defend a hilly map...
damn...thats a bit annoying
koc
Sad news m8,hope ur feeling better now!I will fight and join in ur games Mike http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Of coarse i not have as much skill as u yet,but its the takin part that matters.Maybe many are afraid of u http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gifLOL
Well i will fight u as many times as u like,just maybe a can get another lucky win versus u again! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/cool.gifTreasured that moment!When ur units ran.
Well nice ur back and feeling better m8,but plzs dont get bored the community needs guys like u.
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FastCub
It IS the honour points syndrome.
Putting that number beside names was a big mistake.
Some people on the server are just morons and care only about their honour point rating. They don't give a DANG of how they achieve their honour points.
Obviously, these guys consider themselves as vets and the newbies take their example. Bad Bad Bad. I'm fainting.
Now - in COMP GAMES people see Kocmoc has a high honour rating - NO-ONE plays Koc because they fear to lose and hence lose honour points.
In FRIENDLES, people see Kocmoc has a high honour rating - NO-ONE plays him because if they lose they will not be considered anymore the BEST players.
This bad attitude not only destroyed most of the community but also destroyed myself ; I don't play MP anymore.
It seems what the Honour Society had feared has materialised.
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Konnichiwa,
In STW people were afk to check honor on website and bothered everyone with: 'What's your honor?'The honor next to nicks isn't responsible for the Online problems.
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Yagyu Jubei
03-09-2002, 02:13
I agree Tosainu...the whole honor system and people greed/fear are what's to blame
i have noticed many more new players on recently, being nice to them and helping them will give the community a boost (puting up with them as well, some are annyoing http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif)
Speaking about the whole 'honor' thing... It has happenned to me a lot where I join somebody's game, and sit and wait... and wait... but no 'READY' appears. Then, after ages of waiting, a message comes from the host -- usually after I just exitted from the waiting foyer -- that my honor is TOO LOW!!! ROFLMAO
I have now decided to go on a quest... a great quest... a quest I hope all y'all will join me on... a quest to acheive the greatest honor rating of them all... a quest to acheive HONOR ZERO!
This way, I too will be much feared by vets AND newbies alike! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
[This message has been edited by Vanya (edited 03-08-2002).]
Toda Nebuchadnezzar
03-09-2002, 02:50
Vanya mate would love to join you but I don't play MP anymore for many reasons.
1) I can never get past loggin on anyway
2) People are too concerned about their honour
3) All the newbies claim they are amazing and dont respect us vets in anyway
4) Hardly anyone plays online anymore anyway.
But hopefully Monsta's tourney and my campaign will boost the player count a bit.
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Quote Originally posted by evilc:
i have noticed many more new players on recently, being nice to them and helping them will give the community a boost (puting up with them as well, some are annyoing http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif)[/QUOTE]Be this me, u speak of http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gifLOL
Well if u dont ask u dont become FasT! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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YagyuKamiizumi
03-09-2002, 03:45
I don't play comps and alot of the time I am waiting for a clanmate to show for a "battle appointment". That is usually the only time I am in MP lobby. I have resolved to myself that I will start playing more people outside my clan. The reason I don't play comps is not because I am obsessed with honor but because the concept of the friendly game seems conducive to a more relaxed and less egocentrical interaction. Look for my lastest article in 'Psychology Today' entitled: "Spears, Jeers, and Tears; Honour as a Phallic Compensation" http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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hmm...when I played online - I always went immediatly for the highest honour person availible, just because there is a chance I could win - people with higher honour than me have more to loose by loosing so if they have the courage to put up a game then I'll damn well have the courage to play the beggars!!!!!!
I have yet to play online. One problem is finding the time. Another is that in past online experiences you run into so many people with childish attitudes. Those who contribute here dont strike me as being that way. But again, its finding the time.
Another possible issue is that it appears many of you are in Europe. While thats a totally cool place to live it means that even if I could play online it would be in the middle of the night your time.
Another issue, I need to get a modem for my gaming system... but need money for that... yeah they are cheap but lost job so no money now...
I would like to try MP with some of you grizzled old vets so keep up the faith, maybe I will get online sometime and maybe even provide a challenge, assuming you let me pick the map and let me play sit on the hill in the forest defense http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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"To fight is to live"
I've basically stopped playing multi now.
What Koc said is right...it's so frustrating when noone joins your game. At the time i can get on most conveniently the server is horribly filled with newb punks who think they are so hard...it's got no friendly atmosphere anymore like it did from when i started in sept '00, and hasn't since about July '01.
Also the battles now rely too heavily on missile units, something which every patch has failed to fix.
In short the old server had better battles, better people and better atmosphere.
But i still manage to fight interesting battles with ham, yuuki, krast, RW, rusties, many others etc. Just gotta logon at the right time http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Tankdogg123
03-09-2002, 17:55
I can't even download the patch to be able to play on-line that needs to be fixed soon.
Konnichiwa,
You can't download the patch? http://www.totalwar.org/maps/Patches/ShogunWv1.02_Euro.exe (WE)
http://www.totalwar.org/maps/Patches/ShogunMv1.02_Euro.exe (MI)
What's going wrong? Need segmented files?
DeathOnaPaleHorse
03-10-2002, 10:34
I'm a n00b... the reason I don't play against guys like KocMoc is that a lot of times we try to join a game and are told that it is a private game, even though no password was used. Or we get the old, "I'm playing against a new-b?" sarcasm, or worse, I don't want a newbie on my team." I know that not all veteran players do that, but a couple of times is discouraging enough that guys like me will only play against other
You are definately right Deathonapalehorse ... too many of the vets can be like that although i'm sure kocmoc is not one of them (me either hehe). It's actually fun teaming with someone less experienced as long as u dont care too much if u lose, coz when u win it means more and thats usually how u meet peeps online anyway.
I think the problem with a lot of more experienced players is that they are afraid to lose, which is kinda sad really, and can make them disrespect honourable newbs.
thats it - I'm going to see if I can get playing in Japan, maybe I can save multiplayer shogun single-handedly!
or at least have a good time http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
[This message has been edited by Whitey (edited 03-10-2002).]
AggonyAce
03-10-2002, 16:05
well an opinion from a newbie is that a while ago i was a bit worried for my honour and when i see people like koc host a comp i would be discouraged from joining his game but if he hosted a friendly i'd jump on it to learn so i really don't know why people wouldn't join your game when you host a friendly but now i not really worried bout honour so you host a 1v1 and i'll fill the spot in koc http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
ElmarkOFear
03-10-2002, 16:47
Yup koc, ace isn't kidding. If he would play with me more than once, then he would surely play with you!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif Of course, he made me wear a bag over my head, but i am used to that!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
death, i play with newbies too! sometimes its a bit hard if they dont hear to u and tell u what u have to do, but mostly its fun
...and its a good chance to help them...learning by doin...
koc
Not being afraid to lose is the first step to winning. Although I am yet to play a multiplayer game, I hope people will want to play with us newbies. I think thats the kind of thing that build better communities.
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Toda Nebuchadnezzar
03-11-2002, 03:51
I'm a newbie...honest!
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif No-one will play with me http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif Oh wait thats cuz I can never get past loggin on. It never logs me on! BASTARD SHOGUN!!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Quote Originally posted by Kocmoc:
it becomes harder and harder to play a game... noone will join sometimes there are 10 guys not in game and they dont join....
sometimes there are more "free" and they dont join!!
hmmm, maybe i miss the point but what i do wrong?
i host 1v1 i host 2v2 3v3 and 4v4 some comps, some friendly... anyway i just want a game and some fun, but in last time i waster 3 hours or 4 and play just 2 or 3 games...
thats stupid in my eyes... im bored of this game....
koc[/QUOTE]
Koc, I seem to remember that this is the point I was trying to make a little while ago and we ended up having a "discussion" over it.
I think you made the point maybe better than I did, more straight forward anyway.
Competition is good though, gives people an aim but it should not be to the detriment of the game as a whole.
Boromir...
The only difference between a newbie and a vet is the vet got shot at once... and survived. The newbie has never been under fire.
Another infamous definition: "A brave man is but a coward that runs forward."
Quote Originally posted by Vanya:
Another infamous definition: "A brave man is but a coward that runs forward."[/QUOTE]
Oh man I love this quote! cos I'm so brave http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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LOL tottee
Online gamin rules i never ply SP only to do tests in custom http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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MagyarKhans Cham
03-18-2002, 07:32
hmmm dear Orlok Koc
just after 1 day your Khan left you are already bored with the game....
I can tell you he is back http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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