Would you survive Survive

[Silianat]

If you were suddenly warped back to medieval times would you survive??

[Ragss]

i said 50, cause with my size i would probably have something to do...(im 6'4). Maybe a blacksmith apprentice or a ship builder ect.

[Goofball]

I'm average size, so I said 30%. I probably would have said more a few months ago, but I recently read Timeline and it made me realize how scary things were back then. Aside from not being able to speak the language, I also don't know how to swing a sword, shoot a bow, or properly fasten a codpiece.

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[The Tuffen]

I wouldn't survive long i don't think - too many medical conditions - although if i didn't have them I would prob say bout 40% and would prob be end up being an archer.

[PrinceBrobex]

I'd run like hell to the nearest Monastic establishment, Medieval customs of hospitality would likely get me in. I'd play the babbling half-wit and make a point of spending hours in front of the alter. After a few years I could supplement my high school latin enough to become semi-literate. It's a miracle The Blessed Virgin has restored my sanity and granted me the gift of speech Hey, maybe I'd make deacon. I'm sure the local lord would be interested in such a prodigy, perhaps I'd attract the attention of the local bishop.
Remember, under Feudalism, it's who you know that counts. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Basileus]

Would propably be dead after a few hours http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

[Phatose]

I'm an atheist with a big mouth. If I didn't die of exposure on the first night, I'd be barbecued long before I managed anything meaningful.

[Somebody Else]

Were I able to make myself understood, I'd hie myself off to someone important, and show him a few magic tricks... Unless I'm in Spain, in which case I'd take a cue from Monty Python... and RUN AWAY

But... if I could survive the religious nuts (tricky, I know) I reckon I could have a pretty good time of it. I'd even invent plumbing along the way. Hygiene is very important. My liege lord's court would be the cleanest in all Christendom... (not tricky, I know)

[Jacque Schtrapp]

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[Aleksandr Nevsky]

BOOMSTICK

Awesome, Jacque Schtrapp

Yeah I'd probably die. I mean despite the sicknesses, it would be dangerous too...not knowing anyone, you'd be the prime target for a bandit or highwayman or something.

[Gregoshi]

30% - my asthma would have most likely done me in as a young boy.

[discovery1]

Dead, mainly because I don't speak the languange. I might be able to intimidate a few people though(I'm 6'3 and I'm pretty sure that most would be very short due to poor nutrition). I would probably spend my final momentents kicking myself for not taking latin in high school.

[scudknight]

I'm ready - send me in. :)

[Ironside]

And none here have came up with the idea to pretend to be a foreigner from a country far, far away in the beginning? It would hopefully save your ass during the first time. And why do you think the language is so important? Most people usually don't think that an alone, unarmed, foreigner is a big threat that is needed to be killed right away. I voted 60%, I know some places you should avoid http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif. Walking alone in a forest is not recommendable for example. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif But you can always have bad luck and accidentally end up shot by a scout from an army.

[frogbeastegg]

Well I know enough to give it a very good shot, sadly there is one technical hitch that puts me on the 'dead inside of a a week' list - from what I know of medieval women and how they were expected to behave I think I'd be running for my life after an hour Hiding or blending in would be next to impossible as I would be a good few inches taller than most people, since I couldn't melt into a crowd my unusually coloured hair (dark blonde but each strand shines like a strand of pure gold wire when the light catches it correctly...strange effect really) and pale skin (medieval people were big on pale skin because it shows you don't work in the fields, basically pale skin=rich and refined) would attract even more attention. And of course there's the issue of being tied to the land, I could pretend to be rich if I had some actual well riches but since I don't that leaves me as a peasant and therefore someone's property that has strayed and needs executing.

Of course I might find some happy benefactor happy to help me out...but I think the kind of person likely to take an interest in helping a lost lady with no contacts or resources who meets quite a few medieval ideals of beauty (possession of all my teeth-check, pale skin-check, long hair-check, tall and slender-check, alive-check ) would be the kind of person who I'd hit someone tender before running Now I think about it I'm glad medieval taste is out and I am classed as boring http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

And if none of that killed me my interest in armour and weaponry would...people probably wouldn't apprechiate me turning up and poking through their armoury

[Sun Tzui]

Well...mmmmm

Scenario 1 - pretend to be the mute and join a monastery

Scenario 3 - join a religious military order

Scenario 2 - hide in woods, and rob the rich to give to the poor.

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[HawaiianHobbit]

I'd probably find some rich guy and become a servant.

[Nelson]

I would appear as very well fed at 6 feet, 200 lbs although the strange glass and metal appliance on my face through which I gaze constantly would put people off. The hope would be that the arrival of a clean, stench free male of some age(49 years) and having a mouthful of white teeth would be noteworthy enough to afford entry into the world of the HAVES. Merchant or noble, either would do. Surviving and prospering would be a matter of using brains not brawn. My acumen would be decent because I would be very good with those new Arabic numerals. Like the game says, an ability to add up the same sums repeatedly and attain the same result could be useful. I can handle long division and multiplication too. (If I could take my old high school slide rule I could really razzle dazzle them) Reading and writing would be huge as well. Someone in authority might be impressed and work would ensue.

If I could convince anyone that cholera is caused by polluted water or that vitamin C prevents scurvy I could do a lot of good. Just knowing about germs would help although I might not mention such an outrageous idea as invisible bugs.

Or I could cut myself and die of tetanus in a few days.

[Knight_Yellow]

id use my knowledge of weapons to give scotland an advantage and then own the world.



highlanders with semi automatics vs. pike men.



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[Quessa]

Well, as a tall and skinny male I'd probably appear as a threat from the medieval POV (while I'm only a bit over average length here, I'd be a giant back in Medieval). I'd hide in the woods and assassinated a royal knight passing thru. Then I'd be clad in his shining armour, travelling across the provinces without any banners or tokens and helping the poor and unhappy with a strong sword arm (who commanded them to block my route and afterall, it's better to be dead than poor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ). I'd live a long long life of 94 years (of course I brought some hi-tech medicines from my time), serving the richest in a couple of wars, slaying bandits and slaughtering poor enemy villages.
Received a middle-name Tall and The Strong-Arm (yes, Feetu the Tall... Feetu the Strong-Arm, doesn't sound too bad to me). Passed across villages and riding across the great gateways of Royal Citadels with a guard playing his great, for metres long, silver horn and peasantry shouting Look now, Feetu, Feetu the Tall, Feetu the Strong has arrived into the castle with small children running in front of me and laying flowers and royal banners on my path.

And great kings would beg for my service, massive armies marching after me to war my white, plain banner (5 square-meters) flying high. And then, after tens of years, I'd be crowned King of the Central Europe, conqueror of the lands in South, West, East and North. Named Feetu the Old and Feetu the Wise and naturally Feetu the Conqueror.
Keeping the Rule of Europe as mine for 38 years, seeding fourteen heirs, seven sons and seven daughters, to my throne. And they all have beautiful, long hair and pale skin. They are skinny, but strong. And my Line wouldn't break in 1000 years.

Yes, George Double you Bush is a fruit if my ancient line as well. But as you can see, the apple has fallen very far from the tree and my royal blood has drained from his veins, while it still maintains it's greed will to dominate all being http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .

I offer a round of beer to all who managed to read all this.
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[rasoforos]

I see that many people are concerned about THE language...well they were not speaking 'medievalian' back then :P . Greek has stayed more or less the same and i expect french and english are not too different either. I dont think latin would be that usefull since only a few people could actually speak it but the countless dialects of italy could be a problem.
Additionaly you dont need to be a huge guy to have an advantage during those years ( in the byzantine empire it would probably mean youre an easy target for a handy knife). An average , well fed and VACCINATED man who also used to brush his teath will have a tremendous advantage in avoiding serious health problems.
What i would do is go and try to get the attention of a byzantine general , supposingly i was not executed for being possesed , i would have a great carier as being able to help the army avoid past mistakes and catastrophic battles, i would also help the engineers devise steam engines, or anything else technological , yet simple enough for me to remember how it works...the future would be a bit changed...but who cares...

[kawligia]

If you played your cards right, you could invent some items without being deemed a witch. Then you would be the King's most valuable subject. He would likely make you a part of the royal family to help cement your loyaty.

P.S. Yellow Knight, I'm down with yor idea too. My family came from Scotland. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

[Teutonic Knight]

I would be what my name implies and go about crusading and conquering the heathen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_knight.gif

[Sun Tzui]

Quote[/b] ]Yes, George Double you Bush is a fruit if my ancient line as well. But as you can see, the apple has fallen very far from the tree and my royal blood has drained from his veins, while it still maintains it's greed will to dominate all being http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif


Quote[/b] ]I offer a round of beer to all who managed to read all this.
I'll take you up on that one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Duke Malcolm]

I would live in a cave, distilling my own whisky, and making Guinness, and travel the world, with a gun to steal things with.

...and do what Knight_Yellow said.

[Ludens]

It would depend on whether I could integrate into medieval society. Yes, to integrate, the key-word in the asylum seeker-policy of many European nations.

If they didn't accept me as a medieval man, I would be dead pretty soon. But if I could talk like a medieval man, clothe like a medieval man, act like a medieval man, I could make it. I could work in a guild, or perhaps the army. It is just that I have a very different skill set than the average medieval person. But if they accept me as 'one of them', I could make it.
If they don't, well...

[TheSilverKnight]

I'd usurp the throne by gaining popular support from the clergy and peasants, the nobility also, then overthrow the current horrible King and then make myself the ruler. So I voted for 90 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[sledge]

Quote[/b] (rasoforos @ Feb. 06 2004,10:14)]I see that many people are concerned about THE language...well they were not speaking 'medievalian' back then :P . Greek has stayed more or less the same and i expect french and english are not too different either. I dont think latin would be that usefull since only a few people could actually speak it.
Uh, I think you will find that English has changed a great deal since the middle ages. Go back a little to Shakespeare- understand all that? ok, go further back and read some Chaucer, easy stuff right? How about the original version of Gawain and the Green Knight? Old English is significantly different from the English we use now and it would present a problem.
Yeah, I guess latin isn't that usefull. I mean its only used by all the religious institutions, all politicians, all philosophers and scientists, all royal courts and the high ranking military.


I think I'd do ok for myself- I already own a suit of chainmail and various weapons and I know how to use them. If I didn't want to be a man-at-arms, I could be a 'natural philosopher' or a monk- I have a degree in Latin and calligraphy is one of my hobbies.

As a little aside, I've noticed that some of the latin orders that your troops say on the battlefield are wrong. They say Progredite when you order them to march; it comes from 'progredior' (I advance) and while plural imperatives usually end in 'te' it is a deponent verb, so it should be Progredimini

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[Aelwyn]

Well, since I would have unique knowledge of the future for them, I would be an invaluable resource for whomever's land I found myself in. I have thought about this many times in the past. A bit of bullet-proof body armour, as many magazines I could carry, and an automatic weapon would be useful too. I'd take down anyone who looked at me wrong, and all around would tremble at my mere presence....but I'd be nice so everyone would like me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

not the Medieval period. but I give myself a 70% for Medieval, Japan.

[motorhead]

Quote[/b] (rasoforos @ Feb. 06 2004,11:14)]I see that many people are concerned about THE language...well they were not speaking 'medievalian' back then :P . Greek has stayed more or less the same and i expect french and english are not too different either.
I'm no language scholar, but do a google search on old and middle english (old english is roughly dark ages thru early middle ages, middle english is middle ages thru 1700). Very, very different. Highly doubtful anyone from today could even be understood back then.

Try this page (http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ballc/oe/paternoster-oe.html) which has wav files of The Lord's Prayer, with side by side translation into modern english. Old English sounds like they're speaking backwards with marbles in their mouths http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

edit: middle english isn't quite as garbled, i found a site (http://www.unlv.edu/faculty/rusche/mesounds.html) with audio of the Canterbury Tales in Middle English, and I could actually pick up about every 10th word or so, no idea what he was actually saying unfortunately.

[Thoros of Myr]

I voted 50%
I'm young, (19) fairly fast & strong for my weight (161 lbs), tho I could be stronger, and fairly fit (4 years of playing soccer helps with that) with no serious health problems. With my bow hunting/target shooting experiance I could be a decent archer assuming I could find the courage to stand and fight (yikes) BUT, I'm not really the tough as nails sort and I would need glasses/contacts becuase my vision isint ecxatly 20/20 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
I would probly die tho
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[Count Fudgula]

Unfortunately, living in a modern industrial high tech society leaves you very lacking in some fundamental skills you'd need to survive back in the day. There's a whole lot of places you could go in the world today which would give you a serious challenge to stay alive using only the skills you learnt growing up in a city.

There are a lot of things you could invent using the available technology in the Medieval world, but only if you could remember how they worked. I reckon a lot of things up to the Industrial Revolution would be possible to recreate back in the 11th or 12th century given the right kind of financial backing. The real question is how much of that stuff would you know how to make. Stuff like plumbing, which was mentioned earlier, would be a good place to start. The Romans had that, and central heating for that matter, so it wouldn't be too tricky to convince people to bring it back in. Water filtering isn't that difficult either, as far as I know, using different sized rocks and sand can clear a lot of muck out of your water supply. You need a bit of money for this though. Does anyone know how to make concrete? You could become quite a handy architect with your school maths and physics. Steel and stainless steel need inventing too. Pumps, pistons, steam power and all that hydraulic stuff could be started off. Tarmac for roads would be good, needs lots of money though. As does any kind of heavy forging of components in iron or steel. Refining oil and electrical generators are a bit optimistic and should be left for people who follow you.

A lot of things would require you to inspire other (smarter) people to work on and you could kind of guide them when you think they are going astray. You could impress people with your knowledge of history, but steer clear of telling people what will happen in the future. By the time people start listening to you seriously you've probably made a dramatic change in what is to come (mentioning dinosaurs would work okay on a big nasty dragon style level). Your geographic knowledge could be seen as a bit heretical so ease in any new (round) ideas slowly. The medical stuff is a bit tricky too at that time. People had a fair idea of how to fix simple things and most of us don't know much more now really, apart from keeping things clean. Drugs and vaccines are not so easy to make without a lot of research. All you could do would be to point people in the right direction and try to hoped somebody would be able to make some sense of it.

You've gotta stay in with the powers that be, so start off with the money making ideas first, and then move on to the more good of humanity type ones.

The whole language thing would only be a problem to begin with, you'd get over it pretty quickly. The whole sanitation thing would have to be a personal habit to begin with. The smell would take a LOT of getting used to. Medieval towns smelled awful, really really awful, especially in the warm weather.

One question though, what would you do if you travelled back in time and got dumped in Kiev/Khazar around 1229?

I'm off to howstuffworks.com to try and brush up before anything unexpected happens

[Revenant69]

Hehehehe I gave myself 50/50 chance of survival. Being a scientist and an atheist I stand a good chance of being burned at the stake... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif What? The Earth is round?....Heretic.....BURN HIM LOL

The only reason I may be able to survive is if some feudal Lord decides to use my skills to further his ambitions LOL Oh, the fact taht I 'm 6' 2 may grant me a spot in the feudal army. But I guess I'd have to fake a lot of worshipping and believing in Jesus thing LOL

Rev

[Ludens]

Quote[/b] (Revenant69 @ Feb. 07 2004,06:57)]What? The Earth is round?....Heretic.....BURN HIM
It is a quite commonly made mistake, but the medieval Catholic church did NOT hold that the earth was flat. Why not? Because the Catholic church had embraced the works of Aristotle, and Aristotle said the world was round.
The idea the church held the world was flat dates back from a romanticized version of Columbus' story, in which the simple sailor Columbus has to defend his idea's against a group of Priest who were waving with Bibles and shouting the world is flat.

[Michael the Great]

Yeah I think I'll do well...

[motorhead]

Quote[/b] (Ludens @ Feb. 07 2004,05:54)]
Quote[/b] (Revenant69 @ Feb. 07 2004,06:57)]What? The Earth is round?....Heretic.....BURN HIM
It is a quite commonly made mistake, but the medieval Catholic church did NOT hold that the earth was flat. Why not? Because the Catholic church had embraced the works of Aristotle, and Aristotle said the world was round.
The idea the church held the world was flat dates back from a romanticized version of Columbus' story, in which the simple sailor Columbus has to defend his idea's against a group of Priest who were waving with Bibles and shouting the world is flat.
True enough, by the middle ages (900-1100) most people accepted that the earth was round. But go an try to claim that the earth rotates around the sun, or that the earth was not the center of the universe and you'd likely be declared a heretic. And you'd better not act appalled if the reigning pope is married when u arrive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Silianat]

Quote[/b] (Aelwyn @ Feb. 06 2004,20:28)]Well, since I would have unique knowledge of the future for them, I would be an invaluable resource for whomever's land I found myself in. I have thought about this many times in the past. A bit of bullet-proof body armour, as many magazines I could carry, and an automatic weapon would be useful too. I'd take down anyone who looked at me wrong, and all around would tremble at my mere presence....but I'd be nice so everyone would like me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif
if u openly used your 'predictions' of the future people would see you as coming from the devil and BURN YOU ALIVE even if you only used your knowledge of the future for good., which really sucks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[Random Ronin]

I would expect to not live as long as I could if I was back in my own time, but I do not think I would die immediately. The trick is to go to the Arab world, where they are more civilized, sanitary, and all around better to live around, while I use my modern knowledge to my benefit. The only hard part would be language, as English as we know it today was sort of still getting off its feet and the Arab world's only real exposure to it is in the form of crusades, where the majority of crusaders speak French and German, making it all the harder. Nonetheless, following basic guidelines, life would be decent. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-glasses2.gif

[Fojar]

If Martin Lawrence Can do it then I should be able to

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[PrinceBrobex]

not to mention Bing Crosby

[Aurelian]

Not having any social contacts and not speaking the local dialect would be a huge problem if you were dropped anywhere in the past. There were always plenty of homeless beggars wandering around, and you'd probably find yourself among them pretty quickly.

We also wouldn't have resistance to any of the local parasites in the food or water, and our immune systems might not handle the filth and various diseases very well. We might find ourselves puking our guts out in a ditch somewhere.

The church would probably be the best place to go to start. At least there, a modern person might be able to get some attention by demonstrating their literacy and mathematical ability. You could try to get a job copying manuscripts in exchange for food and shelter. If you were lucky, someone might take pity on you and help you learn the local dialect, otherwise you would just have to keep your eyes and ears open.

Of course, you could also try to become a brigand. That probably wouldn't work very well since the people who would have things worth stealing would be on the lookout for brigands, and would probably be well guarded. Since you're theoretically alone and unarmed, you'd probably be quickly killed trying that route.

I think I'd stand a reasonable chance of survival if I could get a breathing space to learn how to communicate. I studied some Latin and Spanish in school, and at least I'd have a leg up on those languages. Once I had some reasonable fluency, I might be able to make use of some of my other skills. I've studied swordsmanship and a variety of armed and unarmed combat styles, so I'd at least be able to defend myself with the available weapons. However, I'd have a hard time being taken as a medieval soldier since I don't have any equestrian skills. I do have enough medical knowledge to at least improve sanitation and decrease the mortality level of children and pregnant women, and from plagues. That would count for something if you could get anyone to actually change their habits.

I WOULD be extremely useful for anyone in power who wanted to reform their military. I have all sorts of incredibly arcane specialist knowledge about ancient, medieval, and early modern military affairs. The problem would be getting the ear of someone powerful enough who was also willing to accept the social implications of military reforms in that era. Not too many feudal knights would look kindly on training and equipping their peasants for war.

I'm not sure what my chances of survival would be, but it would certainly be tough.

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[Crazy Duke]

Wow, I wish I was born at that time. Maybe I had a life in that period??.

Scudknight, do you need a company

[Mysterium]

I dunno if anyone's read it, but the Janissaries series by Jerry Pournelle - and later Roland Green as well - does this kind of thing very well. There's a planet where aliens drop warriors from earth every 600 years to subdue the local population and grow drugs for them (it's true) so you get a very interesting mix of cultures. Romans from 200 A.D., dark ages in 800, etc. The latest crop is US mercs, and the things a well-placed anti-tank round do to a heavy cavalry division are WICKED. This would be a great mod, too. Two snipers, two LMGs and some riflemen v. 600 peasants. Good times.

Oh, but otherwise, I think the monastery is the way to go. Beer, singing, and mu-mu's. Sweet

[octavian]

i posted 80% cause while i may not be able to communicate with all the people, i'm 6'7, and very good with medieval era weapons (sword, dagger, staff, bow not so much) so the only thing would be disease and exocution as a heritic http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif

[Russian Threat]

LOL...greats posts all.

Personally, I wouldn't make it for one reason: the widespread lack and use of deoderant. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

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[Senta]

i probably wouldn't... with my size combined with natural agrassion, i'd probably make to many enemies to outlive them all... i'd either die very young, or become very famous warrior http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

[Silianat]

would anyone else survive?

[Sir Price]

I'm in pretty good health, and a good enough archer, but can't see a thing without my contacts, so..... https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasarno.gif

[Gith]

I'm 17, 145lbs, best shape I've been in so far in my life. I'm familiar with the majority of medieval weapons, not too bad with a spear, and I'm a decent archer. I speak a decent bit of spanish.

I'm 100% sure I'd be dead within a few months. Why? I'm almost positive I'd get recruited/drafted/forced into some form of army where I'll be promptly killed by someone in the opposing army.

If I could wait about 5 years, I might have a better chance. I'm JUST getting started into armouring and SCA heavy combat, not to mention in college I plan on taking quite a few martial arts.

Maybe I could just join a band of gypsies.



However, if ALL of the TW forum goers were shipped back together, I think we could form our own fringe society and do pretty well.

[IrishMike]

I would build a boat and sail to America, then united the Native Americans.

I would then sail back to Europe with the greatist army ever assymboled and then I could garentte I would servive once I conquered all who stood before me.

[mfberg]

Medical conditions would have killed me before age 12

[Jihad2Death]

I wouldn`t make it.As soon as they showed me the status of the bathroom,I`m done.I know some spanish,so if I indended up in Spain I might be ok,of course they speak a different kind of spanish there.I don`t know how many of them had seen a black person up to that point,so I for sure wouldn`t blend in.I guess I`d have to go with the story of my being an Emissary from some unknown country,to the east.Of course if you saw the Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner,you saw that a brother was able to survive(Even though it was a movie)I guess it depends on where I was dropped,I might be able to make it as an Abyssinian Guard,or a Nubian Spearmen.HeyIf Martin Lawrence can make it in Black Knight I guess I can.LOL https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif

[mdutr0]

I'm really not sure.


Let me try it and get back to you...


Thanks,

Micah

[Jihad2Death]

Quote[/b] (ColdKnight @ July 21 2004,16:32)]I would build a boat and sail to America, then united the Native Americans.

I would then sail back to Europe with the greatist army ever assymboled and then I could garentte I would servive once I conquered all who stood before me.
Very good point,if the Native American had banded together the Mayflower would have turned right back around.Think about it,they already had great archers,horse archers,spearman,and axes,give them swords,add a little armor,and you have a very powerful army.It just goes to show you what happens when people don`t stick together.

[Kenseu]

Stick together Jihad2Death? I hardly think that applied considering that estimates of East Coast Indegenous Tribal Peoples of America (ITPAs) casualties from small pox go up to 80%. 80% of the population was wiped out before the pilgrams even set up shop. Personally, I think those number are a little high, but there definately was serious diseases rampaging around ITPAs after the Europeans arrived.

As for sticking together, even heard of King Phillip's war? I'm too tired to give you details but I believe that a number of ITPA tribes tried to kick out the Europeans. Of course, a bunch of ITPAs were allied with the colonist, and everyone in the middle got killed by both sides. Got to love it, eh?

Oh, and here's a half-assed attempt at a source: Lies my Teacher Told Me. Here's thw authors web site: http://www.uvm.edu/~jloewen/
Honestly, I'd take some of it with a grain of salt, but it's still an anteresting perspective.

As for King Phillip (Or Metacomet, his real name): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Phillip%27s_War

Oh, and yes, I made up the acronym ITPA. But I plan on using it. Native American is insulting and incorrect, and Indian is insulting and confusing.

[Makuri_Dog]

I said 50-50 chance. But i think my chances would be much higher if i had the flu when i went back, kill 2/3 of population might lift my odds of survival.

Less enemies more tins of baked beans to go around. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[Maeda Toshiie]

1. Anyone read Timeline by Michael Crichton? I am not sure how accurate was his description of the medieval society then but I do think it is an interesting read. Basically its about a bunch of college guys (and a girl) being transported back in time to the Hundred Years War.

2. If born there, high infant mortality rate would have killed me.

3. Being an ethnic chinese, I would stick out like a sore thumb and probably get thrown into some dungeon in a very short order.

[Papewaio]

Well I'm Welsh/Swedish so at least I look ethnic European... but I speak modern English and even Elizabethen English is hard to understand on the go... so communication skills would be hard... a basic understanding of physics and having worked in a metalshop plus being an ex-geophysics field hand (despite mild asthma) I would do okay as a mute labourer... they might burn me at the stake if I start mentioning the earth orbiting the sun...

[Silianat]

https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasaryes.gif yes i would survive medieval life, but die in the process, it happens to a lot of people who lived in those turbulent times. would probably live out my life as a soldier dieing in some war, in the name of the Pope.


Wow 58 posts, thats a lot...

[Silianat]

Quote[/b] ]I would build a boat and sail to America, then united the Native Americans.

I would then sail back to Europe with the greatist army ever assymboled and then I could garentte I would servive once I conquered all who stood before me.

good luck finding enough ships that won't SINK on the voyage...were taking water fast https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif we are lost.....blub..blub...i drowned

[mercian billman]

I like ITPA, it sounds good, I will refer to Indians as ITPAs from now on https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

My mom has moorish ancestery and I speak OK spanish I might make it in spain.

[scooter_the_shooter]

i am part native american and i dont think indian or native american is insulting. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[massamuusi]

I would mostly be hacking trees down in the endless forests of Finland, live in a nice wooden cottage, have 12 kids (minimum) of which some 3 strongest might reach 20years of age (due to our habit of letting them play outside in -30c whilst wearing only a shirt), also I'd kill anyone trying to approch my daughters with axe. Also I would skii down and kill all tresspassers, even if they were bishops or the pope himself.
I would have couple trained wolves with whom I'd hunt bears and sell their skulls and furs to market from which they are passed on to southern europe. I wouldn't have potato field as they weren't here yet, but I'd eat meat, have cows and drink milk, and put butter on my bread.
I'd be The Man.... https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif

[Despot of the English]

I'd end up dying of a disease or dead by some other means: maybe a feudal knight comes trotting by and doesn't like the way I looked at him? *slash* that's my throat gone.

[scooter_the_shooter]

i would go live with my ancestors but i dont know which ones because i am a mutt i have

souix native american
black foot notive american
irsih
scottish
english
french
hungarian
russian
german

i would probably live with the irish https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif isolated on an island all i would have to be afraid of is the other clans

[HicRic]

My knowledge of science and maths would probably be considered advanced for the period. If I could survive for a few days, I could probably make something useful and show it off. Hopefully (wishful thinking https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) I'd end up with a job for a king making new things and helping with accounting or archetechture, things like that. I'd try and make myself useful. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Language would be a serious problem, however. I'd certainly give it a crack, though-if I couldn't make it as a scientist sort of guy, I'd go for military.

[ah_dut]

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ Feb. 05 2004,04:18)]30% - my asthma would have most likely done me in as a young boy.
similarly, except i am a young boy https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[ah_dut]

Quote[/b] (Maeda Toshiie @ July 22 2004,05:07)]Being an ethnic chinese, I would stick out like a sore thumb and probably get thrown into some dungeon in a very short order.
join the club i'm chinese and can sin g gregorian chant so i won't die, i'll just be incarcerated to the mental asylum/zoo that was the medieval monastary https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[massamuusi]

Hicric, you'd be burned at a stake by the Holy Inquisition.

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

Quote[/b] (Gith @ July 21 2004,15:13)]I'm 17, 145lbs, best shape I've been in so far in my life. I'm familiar with the majority of medieval weapons, not too bad with a spear, and I'm a decent archer. I speak a decent bit of spanish.

I'm 100% sure I'd be dead within a few months. Why? I'm almost positive I'd get recruited/drafted/forced into some form of army where I'll be promptly killed by someone in the opposing army.

If I could wait about 5 years, I might have a better chance. I'm JUST getting started into armouring and SCA heavy combat, not to mention in college I plan on taking quite a few martial arts.

Maybe I could just join a band of gypsies.



However, if ALL of the TW forum goers were shipped back together, I think we could form our own fringe society and do pretty well.
Yeah, I think if we all were sent back together, we could pull it off. First we'd find some bandits or something, kill them, take tiher weapons, steal tiher prvoisions and such. Then we could all get a caravan together, and be the first Meidevals to visit say, Japan, sinch Marco Polo took China. See, that would be the easiest way for us to pull it off. Be great warrior-explorers. In fact if oyu think about it, that would be pretty nifty eh? We'd be away from all those annoying Inquisitors Another good tihng to do, would be to profess Islam, since the Arabs seem to have een more lenient with different religions, and if we explored the far east for Islam, we could really make it for ourselves.

Send us in

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[HicRic]

Quote[/b] (massamuusi @ July 22 2004,20:56)]Hicric, you'd be burned at a stake by the Holy Inquisition.
Nah, I'd be careful. I wouldn't go around making anything miraculous or anything. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I'd use discretion-and caution.

[scooter_the_shooter]

if he tw comunity all went back we could prbably conquer them with our knowledge

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

Or we could hire ourselves out as mercs and eanr a lifetime supply of free orgies and ale

[Papewaio]

^ And what a short lifetime it would be... up until penicilan the biggest single factor in killing soldiers where the VD's and other dieseases they picked up.

[Balin son of Fundin]

i said 70%, i would show the king how to make gunpowder, them machine guns, and become an important general and strategist https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif, but if that fell through, id end up a servant

[Tomassi_Rossino]

I said 50 % because I have an ethnic background from everywhere so I could be reduced to being a slave. But heh some of that ethnicicty comes from Spain. I might not have even been born yet https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-zzz.gif

[scooter_the_shooter]

if we all went backl together where would we go i say ireland https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

[HicRic]

There's an idea-what would we do if everyone on the .org forums went back in time together? We could form our own faction (a la the Swiss) and take Europe with our combined talent and knowledge

...or all die horribly. Who knows? https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif Sounds like fun, though. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ceasaryes.gif

[Rufus]

Maybe, if I could get Lasik eye surgery first. But as much as we enjoy the medieval period, we'd all be miserable there in reality, even if we were royalty. No clean drinking water (at least not like anything our bodies would be used to), so we'd probably be in the privy all the time, at least at first. :) Then, speaking of which, no toilet paper, just leaves - which is OK for extreme camping for a few days or something but not permanently. It would take a while to get used to the way everyone would smell. We would all be held in deep suspicion by our desire to take frequent baths. Without computers, TV, movies, books, modern music, we'd get pretty bored, at least those of us not physically equipped to jump right into knighthood.

On the other hand, we may have evolved better immune systems so we may be less likely to catch diseases than medieval people. But there might be some diseases, like smallpox, long since eradicated here that some of us might not be immunized for (if you're younger than 35 or so, at least in the U.S.).

[MadKow]

I think one could do a decent peaceful living in some parts of Portugal, after the end of the Reconquista. Namely in the South where it's warm almost all year, the sea is rich, and the king is away. As a fisherman, it might no be so different than, say, 100 years ago.

One would have to keep an eye out for Muslim raiders. One would likely be taken to Algiers or Tunisia. It was common practice in those times pirates to raid the coasts of Europe to gather slaves to sell in North Africa or to ask for ransoms.

[Dark Angel]

We would probably carry enough bacteria and germs of thing like the common cold that we would kill most people we came across. In that case perhaps the proper garb would be a black hooded cloak and a scythe. I could be one horseman of the apocalypse.
It would be fun finding out.

[Assassins_Shadow]

Hmm, i'd say about 50-50 with me. I'm average height, although not yet done growing, but i'm still probably taller than alot of people back then. Knowlege in mathamatics would probably help tremendously, although I really don't want to be an accountant for the King my whole life. The countless hours of playing RTS computer games might help if I enlist in the army... although I'll probably be slaughtered long before I become elevated enough to make tactical decisions. In the end, i'll probably just be considered a religious heretic when they find out I can't pray in Latin and I'll be burned at the stake.

[The_Emperor]

I'd say around 50-50 as well... I am sure we could use our historical knowledge of the period to advantage.

Unfortunately my Latin & French are not very good so that would constitute a problem in dealing with the nobility (especially in England).

English was the language used by the commoners and peasants... So we'd best get learning if we want to climb the social ladder

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

Bah, we could all avoid the Inquisiton if we just professed Islam and ran dowm to Egypt.

[Inuyasha12]

Hell yes. I know everything that its going to happen, i know the future.

Besides random things that i have in my pocket would amaze them.
Gaze at the magic cellphone and its magical ringtones, worship my ballpoint pen

Or i'd be hanged for witchcraft

[scooter_the_shooter]

Quote[/b] (Inuyasha12 @ July 24 2004,05:03)]Hell yes. I know everything that its going to happen, i know the future.

Besides random things that i have in my pocket would amaze them.
Gaze at the magic cellphone and its magical ringtones, worship my ballpoint pen

Or i'd be hanged for witchcraft
lol thats great

[Tomassi_Rossino]

In fact, we'd all be executed. If we tried to emerge as a private clan or army then the rulers would put us down straight away. If we tell them about gunpowder or any other technologies then we would be accused of witchcraft or something or possibly be studied in the future as a group of Medieval Nostradam's. We'd alter future beyond repair - possibly like if we were transported to Constantinople and were asked to foresee the plight of the Byzantine Empire etc. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

[Clown_Killer]

I would survive, mostly because I was born without a conscience. Make sense?

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I'd move to Italy, change my name to Machivelli and write strategy books.
I'd also teach them how to play the trumpet and how to make a canolli.
Then I would be appointed as an advisor to the vatican for good deads https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Gith]

If we could go back in a group, and take equipment...then we'd have a chance https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

Oh and if we brought say, an Apache helicopter or several, some motorcycles and a jeep along with bazookas and machine guns and of course say 9 tanks...

We'd be the dominant force

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[GoldenKnightX2]

I'd survive, just stay out of forests, and maybe tell some kings the outcome of there battles or the tactics his enemy will use. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif