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can calvary archers fire WHILE moving?
and can a horse get killed in battle but the soldior gets back up and continues to fight?
will the colors of the horse be the same? (clones)
Mithrandir
02-12-2004, 00:04
maybe,
no,
no
maybe -> I dont know, hope so http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
no, it'd be too complicated.
no, check the screenshots released so far http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
Horse archers should be able to shoot while moving. The Parthian shot and Cantabrian circle should be part of the game IIRC
CBR
Both have been mentioned so far, so yes cavalry archers should be able to fire on the move.
Kongamato
02-12-2004, 01:28
Cal·va·ry
A sculptured depiction of the Crucifixion.
calvary: A great ordeal.
There is a word called calvary??? Never knew that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
RisingSun
02-12-2004, 01:37
Isn't it also a city? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Yes, horse archers can fire on the move.
No, men cannot be seperated from their horses.
I'm not sure if the horsies will be clone-colors...
Quote[/b] (RisingSun @ Feb. 11 2004,18:37)]Isn't it also a city? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Isn't that Calgery?
Calgary :)
Canada if I remember correctly.
Im pretty sure I can answer these questions -
can calvary archers fire WHILE moving?
Yes, CA have said that they CAN And they can fire backwards - or at least the Parthians can.
and can a horse get killed in battle but the soldior gets back up and continues to fight?
As far as we are aware, there are no plans for this, but theres been a LOT of discussion about it (search feature)
will the colors of the horse be the same?
This is a new question to me. theres been a lot of debate over animations but hmm, I don't think it would be hard to give at least 2-3 different skins for horses, but no official word on this that im aware of.
Hope that helped :)
Dead Moroz
02-12-2004, 09:03
Calvary archers? What a heresy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif
Quote[/b] (Ashen @ Feb. 11 2004,19:51)]and can a horse get killed in battle but the soldior gets back up and continues to fight?
As far as we are aware, there are no plans for this, but theres been a LOT of discussion about it (search feature)
This is the topic (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=19;t=13824) with that discussion.
Quote[/b] (CBR @ Feb. 11 2004,17:11)]Horse archers should be able to shoot while moving. The Parthian shot and Cantabrian circle should be part of the game IIRC
What is Cantabrian circle?
Quote[/b] (Dead Moroz @ Feb. 12 2004,09:03)]What is Cantabrian circle?
A cavalry formation forms up in a circle (close to the enemy). The riders keeps moving clockwise (to the right) so their shield is facing the enemy and then throws their javelin at the enemy.
The advantage of this formation is that the rider, when they are closest to the enemy, is covered by the shield as well as not being in close contact with the enemy for very long. The missile power is also focused on a small spot against the enemy formation to maximise the chance of disordering/disrupting the enemy infantry.
CBR
Dead Moroz
02-12-2004, 13:38
Quote[/b] (CBR @ Feb. 12 2004,06:02)]
Quote[/b] (Dead Moroz @ Feb. 12 2004,09:03)]What is Cantabrian circle?
A cavalry formation forms up in a circle (close to the enemy). The riders keeps moving clockwise (to the right) so their shield is facing the enemy and then throws their javelin at the enemy.
The advantage of this formation is that the rider, when they are closest to the enemy, is covered by the shield as well as not being in close contact with the enemy for very long. The missile power is also focused on a small spot against the enemy formation to maximise the chance of disordering/disrupting the enemy infantry.
CBR
Are you sure that Cantabrian circle will be included in RTW? It seems to me that it's hard to realize this group action in Total War engine.
But they managed to handle their "parthian shot", so it would not be a surprise.
Knight Keimo
02-12-2004, 14:14
Quote[/b] (makkyo @ Feb. 11 2004,16:47)]can calvary archers fire WHILE moving?
Probably, because even famous "Parthian shot" will be in game.
The RTW engine is clearly more advanced than the STW/MTW engine. There are several special formations as the testudo and an old hoplite description mentioned a square formation IIRC
So from what I understand its possible to make all kinds of special formations. I do hope they dont limit themselves but make as many as possible, even if its only variations, to make units of different qualities to make better and more "deep" tactics.
The RTW engine looks great so far and its about time that the TW series will get as detailed (if not more as we have the computer to help us) as many of the miniature wargames out there. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
CBR
Barkhorn1x
02-12-2004, 14:42
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ Feb. 11 2004,18:28)]Cal·va·ry
A sculptured depiction of the Crucifixion.
calvary: A great ordeal.
Calvary was the name of the hill that Jesus was crucified on.
(and yes I noticed the dangling participle - but I don't care)
Barkhorn.
biguth dickuth
02-12-2004, 17:22
Quote[/b] ]and can a horse get killed in battle but the soldior gets back up and continues to fight?
as others have already mentioned, probably not. i suppose that in a future TW game, when our graphic cards will be able to handle with a lot more, it could be taken in as it would be a reaaally nice feature...
i (and most of you, i suppose) have also noticed some other minor drawbacks of the current engine in the so far published screenshots and vids, although they are just "aestheticaly" inaccurate:
e.g. all the horse-tails are moving at the exactly same pace and direction, some horses seem to gallop while standing still when they have engaged the enemy formation, all the horses, the clothes and the faces in the same unit are identical etc.
i suppose all these are to save valuable resources so i just get over it, but still, in the great depths where lies the hidden pool of my desires ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif ), i long for more variety....
biguth dickuth
02-12-2004, 17:28
Quote[/b] ]Calvary was the name of the hill that Jesus was crucified on.
in my country people call it "golgothas" so i suppose it has a different name in some languages.
Of course not. Golghota was the name of the hill, Calvar means a great ordeal, that's all.
Barkhorn1x
02-12-2004, 18:24
Quote[/b] (Nowake @ Feb. 12 2004,10:59)]Of course not. Golghota was the name of the hill, Calvar means a great ordeal, that's all.
You may be right there - I haven't been a Christian in a long while. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif
Barkhorn.
Hey CBR http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
The circle wasn't formed outside the enemy, the horse archers (well actually mounted javelineers could perform it too) would ride towards the enemy in either a column or stop some distance away then send in one HA at a time right after each other. The result would be that when the last HA began his approach the first would be on his rear after circling back. So the circle was a result, not really an intention (though later it might have become that).
Well I might have formulated it wrong. They dont form a circle and then start throwing javelins. They would start more or less in a line facing the enemy and then one after another rides forward and the end result would be this circle.
Ann Hyland: "Training the Roman cavalry" describes it nicely.. with graphics too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
CBR
Thoros of Myr
02-13-2004, 12:06
Just to clear up any confusion...
"calvary
\Cal"va*ry\ (k[a^]l"v[.a]*r[y^]), n. [L. calvaria a bare skull, fr. calva the scalp without hair. fr. calvus bald; cf. F. calvaire.] 1. The place where Christ was crucified, on a small hill outside of Jerusalem. --Luke xxiii. 33.
Note: The Latin calvaria is a translation of the Greek krani`on of the Evangelists, which is an interpretation of the Hebrew Golgotha. --Dr. W. Smith."
from dictionary.com
Many christian churches have "Calvary" in thier name.
Barkhorn1x
02-13-2004, 14:44
Thank you Thoros.
I now take back my Ooops
Barkhorn.
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