Test of Time Tournament

[Mithrandir]

Test of Time Tournament

What is it ?
It's a 1v1 Tournament for MTW VI

For who is it ?
All MTW VI players, clanned players, ronins, noobs, veterans, all are welcome.

What's different?
players will play early,high and late era rounds.
Spend your money wise for it's transferred to the next round

Any prizes ?
Eternal fame in the Total War realm
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .
I've also contacted Ritchie if he'd be willing to give the winner a copy of RTW. -no reply yet.

How many people can join ?
Up to 32 players can enter.

What are the rules ?
You can find all information here :
http://www.totalwar.org/tourney

Where can I sign up?
On the forums of The Org :
http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....00;f=18 (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=Post;CODE=00;f=18)

or if you cant post there,
On a seperate Bravenet forum here :
http://pub18.bravenet.com/forum/1532912343/

if neither works mail me :
elflands @ hotmail.com

post your questions & sign up here.

-Mithrandir http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[AggonyDuck]

I'd like to enter AggonyDuck to the tourney... :)

[Alrowan]

sign me up

Alrowan wants in

[Nigel]

Nice idea, sign me up for it.

One question on the rules:
One round constits of 2 battles. I assume you have to use the same army cobmination for both. Or can you choose a different one for attacking and defending ?


Oh, and I am in GMT, prefered times weekday evenings, if that makes matchmaking easier.

[Mithrandir]

Good to see some entries already http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

You can use different armies when attacking/defending.

Could you please post your name which you use on GS ?
I believe it's {RVN}Alrowan and just Nigel ?

thanks in advance http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

-Glorfindel

[Dionysus9]

|Prophet_Initiate|Bachus, signing up.

Can I sign up here?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[Swoosh So]

Id like to sign up too

[Kansuke]

Hi,

Sounds very good and innovative rules.

Sign me up please, (dang will have to give stw/mi a break for a while).

[ELITEofGAZOZ]

*beep beep*

let me in

btw, one faction each battle or each round?

*beep beep*

[theKyl]

I wanna play too

[Mithrandir]

14 players so far, 18 spots remaining http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

btw, one faction each battle or each round?
every faction once the whole tournament
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[BomilkarDate]

*sings in*
*corrects spelling mistake*
*signs in*
*runs*

[Mithrandir]

Just 4 spots remaining http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

For a full list of competitors check
http://www.totalwar.org/tourney http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[AMPage]

Sign me up if there's still an open spot.

[Mithrandir]

Good to have you aboard AMP http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

just 1 spot remaining

[Aleborg]

Too late?

If not pls sign me up.

Thx

[Grell]

If it is not too late I ould also like to sign in: Page_Glavias.

[spacecadet]

hmm looks like im too late - if not sign me up

SpaceCadet
Wolf_Space http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

[Mithrandir]

aargh, 8 new signups with just 1 spot left. I'll see if I can expand the tournament. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[Cheetah]

You can always have 64 entry instead of 32 (i.e. one more round). I am sure it will fil up http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Puzz3D]

You could make it 8 five player double round robins to handle 40 with an 8 player elimination after that.

[Mithrandir]

round robin ?

whats that ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I could enter 40 persons,20,10, and then have 5 remaining in round 4, where 1 would have to be eliminated to enable 2 1v1's.



Here's my proposal : enter all 40, in round 4 the one with the least money remaining or with the lowest avarave CWB score remaining is dropped from the tournament. (but this is kind of lame for the one who is dropped)


adding another round and 32 more spots is an option, but I highly doubt that we can get 24 more players to join.

Or I can stick to the orignal 32, which means 8 people who signed up (last 8) dont get to play.

I'd like to get some opinions from all who entered.

[Mithrandir]

I've added a poll on
http://www.totalwar.org/tourney

(in news)

[Cheetah]

I am sure that you can get additional 24 players. The 32 places filled up within a few days. And having 1 more round is the easiest solution.

BTW, round robin means that everyone plays everyone.

[Dionysus9]

Ok, i tell you what you do--- make these 8-9 extra guys play eachother in single elimination to earn the 1 spot. They were late and are lucky for the chance to compete (is how I see it).

[spacecadet]

I agree with Bachus not to expand the tourney - if you try to expand your tourney too much it'll become unmanageable.

[Mithrandir]

Thanks to all who have responded and voted in the poll.

I've decided to keep the original number of 32 players.
Aleborg is the last one in.

Check
http://www.totalwar.org/tourney

to see who is matched up against who.

To all who compete:
Have fun

[Cheetah]

hm, AMP vs Aleborg, not bad, not bad. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I wonder how much florins will they save on this first battle. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Mithrandir]

I tried to put players of equel calibre vs one another.

Too bad I don't know half of them from 1v1, and the other half I faced months ago, but I think it's fair now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif


Hope to receive replays&logfiles soon :).

[Znake]

So Glorfindel one question....
1) In first round do I have to use 2 faction?
(1 faction attack/1 faction def)..or can i use same?

2) Can i also use different amount of floorins in def/attack?

3) Is Artillery allowed?

[Mithrandir]

each faction can be used just once during the tournament, so 2 factions each round. People of Novgorod and the Russians are considered one and the same.


You can use whatever florins you want. you can save 1k on attack, and 2 k on defence if you want which means you'll have 3k more in the next round :).


The first battles have been played, Storm of Shields defeated TW Taiko. Taiko spend 10k each battle, but Storm used 12.5k, so he made it to the 2nd round, but with just 16fl. extra.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[Mithrandir]

3. only one rule on units : no artillery allowed.

[Mithrandir]

btw.
added the replays,endscreens and logfiles to
http://www.totalwar.org/tourney.

also added a spreadsheet which will be updated with info on the users (used factions, florins saved).

[Mithrandir]

Amp has defeated Aleborg, check out which armies he has used and how on

http://www.totalwar.org/tourney

Quit suprised to see his Byz army btw, going to view replay now :).

[Swoosh So]

I have sent u email of my files for games v RTK bedivere, Although please read my email of the discrepancy in used/unused florins :\ The logs dont show the right numbers.

[Mithrandir]

Thanks, I'll look into it tomorrow and upload the files then. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[Swoosh So]

EliteofBomilkar was victorious in both battles vs wigsomsinister. He too used Russians and Byzantines in the first round. He has saved fl.2992 for the next round

No offence but vs who? no wonder he saved nearly 3k :\ I have a feeling ill be out florined 1.5 - 2k in the second round :P

Maybe their should have been a cap on the florins saved, the thing i dont want to see is someone in the final with 5k vs someone with 8k :\

[Nigel]

I see the tournament is well on its way.

I am due to play Ex_KrooK.
Can anyone tell me how to contact him (or her) to arrange the match ?

Congrats to the winners so far,
Nigel

Edit :
ok, found his email address on bravenet.

[theKyl]

Zitat[/b] (Swoosh So @ Feb. 23 2004,11:47)]EliteofBomilkar was victorious in both battles vs wigsomsinister. He too used Russians and Byzantines in the first round. He has saved fl.2992 for the next round

No offence but vs who? no wonder he saved nearly 3k :\ I have a feeling ill be out florined 1.5 - 2k in the second round :P

Maybe their should have been a cap on the florins saved, the thing i dont want to see is someone in the final with 5k vs someone with 8k :\
I also don't like the "saving money system" too much but i'm lookin forward to playin this tourney (and not messing up like i did in that 3v3 swoosh http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif ). Let's just play and see how it works.

[Mithrandir]

Quote[/b] (Swoosh So @ Feb. 23 2004,11:47)]EliteofBomilkar was victorious in both battles vs wigsomsinister. He too used Russians and Byzantines in the first round. He has saved fl.2992 for the next round

No offence but vs who? no wonder he saved nearly 3k :\ I have a feeling ill be out florined 1.5 - 2k in the second round :P

Maybe their should have been a cap on the florins saved, the thing i dont want to see is someone in the final with 5k vs someone with 8k :\
Yes Swoosh, I know, I will however take the saved florins in account when matching up players in the next round.

I had doubts about wigsom wether or not he was an undercover player. I did my best to even things out, and will do so in round 2 as well.

[Swoosh So]

Hehe kyle dont worry about it :) wait till you see my first replay in the tourney i was flanked with ms seargent and had jst some cav to block it was like here have free flank http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

:)

Also in second game my archers were routed in 2 minutes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

I cant wait for second round hehe

[Alrowan]

tried to have my game tonight, but for some reason i cant host anymore and we couldnt find another host for us. Hopefully we can get it sorted in a day or two

[Mithrandir]

hopefully :)

try to get someone to host a 2v2,25k who will rout (and make sure both players have central positions :)).

I've uplaoded the replays&logfiles of swooshvsBedivere and the replays of bomi vs wigsom.

Also, I checked the logfiles, and to me swoosh it seems you've saved fl 8,- on your russian army and fl. 1085,- on your Byz army ?

[Swoosh So]

Alro ill host for ya im on at 9pm gmt.

[Puzz3D]

Alrowan,

Try releasing and renewing your ip address. This worked for me on two occasions recently when I mysteriously couldn't host.

[Swoosh So]

Mithrandir i think the problem is caused when you pick more than 4 of the same unit so amps 8 byz army will report more florins being saved than actually were and mines is worng i only saved 500-600. Remember on unit picking screen when i for example pick 5 byz inf the cost of all the units shows as higher although- only the 5th unit costs more florins. I wonder if that has anything to do with it . the 8 florins seems right but 900 is wrong. im sure i saved 500-600.

[CBR]

You have the logfile so you can see what units and upgrades you had. Just buy the same army in a custom battle and see what the total cost is...simple http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif


CBR

[Alrowan]

well swoosh, id say yes, but im working today and tomorrow so the times that we are meeting are about 3pm his time, i think thats about 12 GMT

[Mithrandir]

Quote[/b] (Swoosh So @ Feb. 24 2004,12:10)]Mithrandir i think the problem is caused when you pick more than 4 of the same unit so amps 8 byz army will report more florins being saved than actually were and mines is worng i only saved 500-600. Remember on unit picking screen when i for example pick 5 byz inf the cost of all the units shows as higher although- only the 5th unit costs more florins. I wonder if that has anything to do with it . the 8 florins seems right but 900 is wrong. im sure i saved 500-600.
That wouldnt explain the difference in fl. with your armies swoosh..


I've been searching these forums for Almicars&Ans logfile readers,but couldnt find anything. Could anyone please provide me with links ?

Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[AMPage]

Yup, i only save like 2,486 florins, but that's still a good amount :)

[Kansuke]

Hi guys,

In order to address the florin annomily on unit selection (ie due to more than 4 units of same kind etc)and make things easier for Mith, maybe we should all take a screen pic of unit selection page (florins used etc) for remaining matches.

Kansuke.

*looks around for Gazoz, Beep Beeeeeeeep*

[BomilkarDate]

Quote[/b] (Mithrandir @ Feb. 23 2004,13:13)]Yes Swoosh, I know, I will however take the saved florins in account when matching up players in the next round.

*Looks at Amp*
*checks own saved fl.*
*puts money into investmentfunds*

--------------------------------

Swoosh: Although I do understand your concerns, to me this is something that puts more flavour into the tourney. Of course, if we would face, I could use more fl. but if I do, I would not stand any chance in round 3. Sure it is not completely even, but I like the poker aspect of the games. You can risk a lot and maybe loose and drop out of the tourney or you can win and save more fl.

If we should meet in the tourney, I might risk a lot and even might try to save some fl. for later :P.
*hugs Swoosh*
*runs*

That much

Bom

[Dionysus9]

I think it would be better if all the brackets were set in stone-- so you could see who you would face next round if you win this round. But anyway, I dont mind the twist and I'm always up for a tourney. Good work Mith.

[Swoosh So]

Well first priority is to get the florin amounts right ill let you know if i think of anything. Ill ask magy if he knows what the problem is.

[Mithrandir]

Maybe LadyAns' /Almicars logfile readers do show the right amount ?

I still havent found them though, could someone provide me with a link please ?

Thanks,

-Glorfindel

[alioven]

http://personales.ya.com/almircar/

http://www.thiep.com/cgi-bin/ffmtw/logread12.pl

[theKyl]

hi guys,
Ithaskar and me just finished our games and (as I expect to glors great surprise http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) I won both of them. I was able to save 2398 florins and just sent replays printscreens and logs to glor.

P.S.(to Swoosh :P): I HAVE A DREAM My dream is, that, one day, on the endless plains of Kansas and on the highest summits of Himalaya, on every hill and molehill, the people will know one simple thing:

I AM KYL not KYLE

Cheers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Mithrandir]

That's a kind thing Ith has done, letting you win http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

As for the logfiles, thanks for the link Alioven, but they're no good either since neither of them takes in account the extra costs of units after the 4th :(.

I guess I have to use the logfiles of the winners and rebuild 32 armies http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Mithrandir]

ps: Congrats Kyl http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[theKyl]

thank you so mcuh glor but I cant really enjoy that victory as I now have to pay Ith 100$. Well but it was worth it :D http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif

[ELITEofGAZOZ]

*beep beep*

Congrats Kyl w/o e

Kan, u r looking 4 me? Here I am http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

I am busy at the moment, I do the forum posting from the office. I ll be online whenever it´s possible and if we meet we start playing.

Btw if I lose the first battle vs u I ll save 12,450 fl in the second battle. I ll just buy a peasant general http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Believe me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

*beep beep*

[Znake]

Hi Glor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif
Have you recieve Znake Vs Blizzard games?

result: 1-1 41,4%-41,5% victory to blizzard i think..i dont have wolves logfile program..but i thrust blizzrd.

i wanna thank blizzard for great battles and all the best further in tour..

Hail Elite
Hail MK

[Bezalel]

This may be a little premature, but are you planning on having another tournament sometime in the, hopefully, near future?

[theKyl]

glor did you receive my email with logs replays and all that stuff? when I send it gmx.de says "mail was sended successfully" but then i get a mail from "hotmail postmaster" that tells me there was an error...

[Alrowan]

Marc and I just played our battles, and well, it just goes to show that putting efort into playing in a tourney pays off...

Marc won both battles, and it refelcts the time he spent practicing, esp when i didnt prac at all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif

anyway, ill be sendning the replays, marc will send the logs. We only got the last screen though

[Dionysus9]

Quote[/b] (Mithrandir @ Feb. 25 2004,15:24)]I guess I have to use the logfiles of the winners and rebuild 32 armies http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
well, not really 32. More like 16 (only the winners). Oh yeah, and then 8 after that, then 4, then 2.

Actually, for round 2 you should make people report their florins saved and spent, and if they report the wrong amount then they are disqualified.

That would make it easier on you.

[Mithrandir]

Quote[/b] (Dionysus9 @ Feb. 28 2004,00:46)]
Quote[/b] (Mithrandir @ Feb. 25 2004,15:24)]I guess I have to use the logfiles of the winners and rebuild 32 armies http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
well, not really 32. More like 16 (only the winners). Oh yeah, and then 8 after that, then 4, then 2.

Actually, for round 2 you should make people report their florins saved and spent, and if they report the wrong amount then they are disqualified.

That would make it easier on you.
16 winning armies on defence, and 16 winning armies on offence.

I'll apply that rule for round 2. I trust everyone to report it correctly, and will occasionally check up on suspicious characters ;).

I got your mail Alro, but I didnt get yours Kyl however, Ithaskar also mailed me so I got the files I needed :).

Thanks for participating Alro,Ith & znake ,hope you had fun.
(Sorry I forced you to play ith http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

I'll upload the files asap. Been reall busy with school&work thus the lack of updates, my apologies.

-Glorfindel http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[theKyl]

ok glor :)

[Swoosh So]

Define suspicious characters http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[BomilkarDate]

I fear he is talking about llol and his/her leibling http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif.

[Dionysus9]

Here is a template for everyone to use for filing a TTT report (if Mith approves). You can lift most of this info out of the logfiles. Remember, the logfiles misreport the florins spent, so unless you kept a record of your unit selection (F2 takes a screenshot which is saved in the MTW directory "TGAs". If you forgot to take a screenshot or record youf florins saved, you may have to reconstruct your army. Ok, here it is--

TTT Tourney Battle Report

Round One: Bachus v. Fingolfin

Game 1: Steppe04, Early, Summer, Temperate

Battle Type:: INTERNET MULTIPLAYER
Date:: 02/28/04
Time:: 11:40:20
Host:: Fingolfin

Attackers:: |Prophet_Initiate|_Bachus
Faction: GERMANS (see screenshot)
Florins Saved: 498 (see screenshot)
Kills: 650 (see screenshot)
Losses: 331 (see screenshot)

Defenders:: Fingolfin
Faction: French
Florins Saved: ???
Kills: 323 (see screenshot)
Losses: 650 (see screenshot)

Victory for:: ATTACKERS (Bachus)
Game Time:: 9 mins 15 secs


Game 2: Steppe04, Early, Summer, Temperate

Battle Type:: INTERNET MULTIPLAYER
Date:: 02/28/04
Time:: 12:09:09
Host:: Fingolfin


Attackers:: Fingolfin
Faction: Byzantium
Florins Saved: ???
Kills: 657 (see screenshot)
Losses: 739 (see screenshot)

Defenders:: |Prophet_Initiate|_Bachus
Faction: HUNGARY (see screenshot)
Florins Saved: 168 (see screenshot)
Kills: 732 (see screenshot)
Losses: 667 (see screenshot)

Victory for:: ATTACKERS (Fingolfin)
Game Time:: 16 mins 5 secs

[Kansuke]

Hi Guys,

*BEEP BEEP*

Gazoz

*BEEP BEEP*


How about tonite (8PM GMT onwards) ?, I haven't trained, but what the hell, I'm only playing you, hehe, j/k

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

[alioven]

And, please, in the next edition ;) could the e-mail address of players be a requeriment to sign on? It seems that ChaosAchilles and me have different playing times or something, as we don't meet online. I checked on weekend, but only found him in grey :(

Deadline is tomorrow night, no?

[Mithrandir]

Quote[/b] (alioven @ Mar. 01 2004,08:46)]Deadline is tomorrow night, no?
I was aiming for that, but the following people still havent played :

PFJ_baby_jesus
Nigel
Wolf_Kansuke
ELITEofGAZOZ
[CorruptSilence]
ExKrooK
Storm_Of_Clips
ChaosAchilles
CeltiberoAlioven

7 battles to go
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-no.gif

[Dionysus9]

how is it possible that 9 people haven't played? SHouldn't it be an even number of people? (like 8 or 10?)

[Mithrandir]

Quote[/b] (Dionysus9 @ Mar. 01 2004,11:32)]how is it possible that 9 people haven't played? SHouldn't it be an even number of people? (like 8 or 10?)
even better question, where did the other 8 names go ?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Anyways :

PFJ_baby_jesus
Nigel
Wolf_Kansuke
ELITEofGAZOZ
[CorruptSilence]
ExKrooK
Storm_Of_Clips
ChaosAchilles
CeltiberoAlioven

[Mithrandir]

again Must be the list which messes up the copy/pasting

PFJ_baby_jesus
Nigel
Wolf_Kansuke
ELITEofGAZOZ
[CorruptSilence]
Expm_31
RTK9Palamedes
InsaneJKilla
RTK9Gaheris
Ashen

[Mithrandir]

guess this forum doesnt like some people :P.

Check
http://www.totalwar.org/tourney/html/participants.html to see who have yet to play.

[Nigel]

KrooK and I had our battles today.

Catching my English troops badly prepared http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif , KrooK won the first battle with 59% of his army intakt.
In the second battle I managed to defeat him in a hard and exciting struggle which left only 27% of my army standing.

Congratulations to KrooK for his victory http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif
and good luck in further battles.

[Dionysus9]

Wait a minute, how did I get eliminated? I crushed Fingolfin in both battles-- he barely squeeked by with a win in battle 2, but I had more kills than losses.

Hmmmm.... something wrong here-- I'm going to check the battle scores with the logfile reader.

[Dionysus9]

Bachus Attacks:
Bachs CWB Score: 33.6%

Fingol Attacks:
Fingols CWB Score: 22.3%

Hey.... this isn't right, I should have won the match.

I tried sending all logs and replays and they kept bouncing back from elflands email. I even sent an email saying "what should I do, the files keep bouncing back."

I'm sure this is just an oversight on your part, Mith... but I should be advancing.

Your attention to this matter is appreciated in advance.

[Mithrandir]

Quote[/b] (Dionysus9 @ Mar. 02 2004,01:42)]Bachus Attacks:
Bachs CWB Score: 33.6%

Fingol Attacks:
Fingols CWB Score: 22.3%

Hey.... this isn't right, I should have won the match.

I tried sending all logs and replays and they kept bouncing back from elflands email. I even sent an email saying "what should I do, the files keep bouncing back."

I'm sure this is just an oversight on your part, Mith... but I should be advancing.

Your attention to this matter is appreciated in advance.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif Stupid misenterpretation on my side http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif

Will fix it asap.

[Bezalel]

My earlier post was most likely missed in all the excitement. But, are you planning on having another tourney?

[Dionysus9]

Mith,

Thanks man, I know how hard it is to keep everything straight--esp. when you have 32 people and all sorts of technical issues to deal with. Thanks for the quick fix.


Beza,

after all this work and turmoil, I would expect
Mith to take a loooong vacation. Then he will probably do another one :)

[Mithrandir]

Not sure yet Bezalel, tis loads of work to set up, but once the files, folders, anouncements have been made tis ok :).

Ok, I've uploaded batte replays&logfiles from EX_PM 31 vs RTK9 Palamedes, EX_Krook vs Nigel, and the first battle between PFJ_Baby_Jezus vs StomofClips and the second battle between MK_Znake and EliteofBLizzard.

all available on the site.

I still need the following people to play their battles :
-Wolf_Kansuke
-ELITEofGAZOZ
-[CorruptSilence]
-InsaneJKilla
-RTK9Gaheris
-Ashen
-ChaosAchilles
-CeltiberoAlioven

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif

I'm halfway recalculating the saved florins.

[Dionysus9]

Did you get my .zip file full of my logs/screenshots/replays,etc?

I couldnt tell-- I sent it a few times but it kept bouncing back. I thought one of them made it through, but I'm not sure.

[Mithrandir]

nope http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Could you try one last time ?
I've cleaned out my entire emailbox, so there should be anough space now. Sorry I didnt reply to your email, I forgot http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-dizzy2.gif

[Kansuke]

*BEEP BEEEEEEEEEP*

How about tonight Gaz?

[Dionysus9]

Gah-- I'm at work now (and will be for 8 hours) and the zip file is on my comp at home. I hope your box is still empty by the time I can send it.

[Alrowan]

Glor, Marc emailed me telling me he couldnt send the log files to you via email, so ill send them on sometime today :)

[Kansuke]

Hi guys,

Gaz and I played our games, they were 2 great games, considering we are both not accustomed to early era games.

The result was 1 each.

Having looked at the log files, using CWB scoring, I think I pipped Gaz.

His win was 21.3%, whereas mine was 33.2%. I will send logfiles etc and Glor, can you kindly confirm it please.

I think I managed to save around 1500 over the 2 games (think Gaz used nearly all his in both games)

Ruhm und Ehre Gazoz.

Bows.

Kansuke.

[theKyl]

any news??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

[Mithrandir]

yes

[theKyl]

which news? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[BomilkarDate]

NEWS (http://www.totalwar.org/tourney)
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[theKyl]

hm i already hoped we could finally start the secound round...

[Swoosh So]

Well in my opinion this is getting too drawn out i have to train for the cwb the cwc and am starting the multiplayer campaign on the 15th.

[Dionysus9]

I think you guys should just all drop out of the tourney and concede that I'm the best.

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[Mithrandir]

I urge the following participants to play their battles and/or send the files to me as soon as possible :
Wolf_Kansuke
ELITEofGAZOZ
[CorruptSilence]
InsaneJKilla
RTK9Gaheris
Ashen
so the second round can begin.

[Kansuke]

Hi,

I sent email twice, first one with spaces, second one correctly, if not recieved iI will resend http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Mithrandir]

nope, didnt get a mail http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Kansuke]

Hi,

I re-sent the mail, third time lucky I hope, if you don't get it this time, just eliminate me Glor, maybe its just not mean't to be.

[Mithrandir]

Apologies to all who participate,
real life has prevented me from going online for over a week.

I'll finish all tourney-things today and will update the site today.

[BomilkarDate]

I love you Glor. See you online :).

RUHM und EHRE

ELITEofBomilkar

[Mithrandir]

Updated.

Rebuilt all winning armies to make sure the Fl. used is correct.

Some problems with logfiles, check http://www.totalwar.org/tourney for full info.

one battle to go :

RTK9Gaheris vs Ashen.

once that one is fought the second round will begin. (before wednesday).

[Dionysus9]

Ok, I will resend just the logs and see what happens.

In my first round, I saved: 498 and fought as Germany.
In my second round, I saved: 168 and fought as Hungary.

I have screenshots of the unit selection screen, so even if the logs are bad I can show what was spent. I've found that sometimes the logfiles go corrupt if you change their original name...which is what I think I did. I will go and see if there is a "ghost" of the original name.

[Mithrandir]

For those who havent noticed yet :

Round 2 has started.

http://www.totalwar.org/tourney

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[Dionysus9]

Ok thanks for the headsup-- I didn't know it had started.

I have a question about this:


Quote[/b] ]"The games will be set up as follows :
if player A has saved 2000 Fl. and player B has saved 1500 Fl. the florins used in the first battle will be 12000/11500 If player A has spent 11000 and player B has spent 9000 on the first battle, the second battle will be fought with 12500/11000 (offence/defence have switched sides).

I dont understand what that means. I cant tell what the rule is from the example.



Quote[/b] ]The players will tell eachother how much florins they saved. . ."

When must I tell? Is it before we begin fighting? or after the first battle? or after both battles?

[Kansuke]

Hi Bach,

I think before the start of the first (screen shot, maybe) battle, florins need to declared, then, savings from the first game are added to the default florin amount for the second game (for high era games, 10k plus savings from first game, where the first game florin amount is 10k plus savings from previous round).

Also, maybe a 4 max rule better be added, as more than 4 units messes up the florin spent etc in logfiles.

Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Kans.

[BomilkarDate]

Simplest solution in my eyes is: Host 15k and let each side picks their army. After the first game you declare how much you used, if you do not trust your opponent or forgot how much fl. your army was, check the log or the printscreen of the army selection.
Host 15k again and both will have enough room to select their armies within the limits of their savings of course but every player should be able to select an army that is not against the tourney rules.

Even more important Have fun in round two

Bom

[Kansuke]

Hi,

Well, if florins saved becomes redundant, then just host 10k games, whats the point of saving florins if they are not acounted for in subsequent rounds? as suggested for this round.

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[BomilkarDate]

The florins are important kans. My point simply is that it makes no sense to host a 12698 vs 11556 game and then recalculate and host 11224 vs 10678 for the second one.
You know how much you saved, host a 15k, stay within the limits of your savings and enjoy your two games. Of cours to assure that you stay within the limits you have to calculate the florins, but its not worth bothering with it for hosting, if you have confidence in the player you are facing.

That much

Bom

[Kansuke]

Hi Bomi,

In which case, 15k settings is to high a florin level.
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[BomilkarDate]

Enough words lost http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.

Bom

[Kansuke]

Indeed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

Kans.

[Dionysus9]

I feel like I am mentally handicapped. I'm still having trouble following this...

Also-- Swoosh-- please contact me to set up a time to battle. I left you a PM here at the .org but no reply yet.

[Mithrandir]

There seem to be some overall difficulties (mailed to me&posted)

here's a reply from a mail :

In round 2 you can use only the money saved in round 1. So you can not use money you may have saved in the first battle, in the second.That money is transferred to the next round.

In round 3, you can use any money saved in round 1&2.
Again, you cant use money saved in the first battle for the second.

[Dionysus9]

ok, I understand now, thanks.

How about this for the formal rule:

Each Round is composed of 2 battles, one attacking and one defending. After each battle the amount of florins saved is banked until the next round. You cannot use any "saved" florins (any florins in the bank) until the current round is over. At the start of the next round the florins are withdrawn from the bank and you can use them as you choose in Round 2 (either in attacking and/or defending). You cannot use florins saved from your attacking battle in your defending battle (or visa versa) in the same Round.

Kind of long winded but its pretty clear.

[Dionysus9]

still no word from Swoosh...is there someplace formal I should post my battle times?

[Swoosh So]

hi dino i can play thursday night if you wish between 20:00 and 23:00 pm gmt. Id like to play a map like carcano 10k high.

[Dionysus9]

Hi Swoosh, glad you found me. Is there a way to contact you by email? That would be easiest to schedule.

my email is: thegodofwine@yahoo.com

Those times won't work because of the time difference. I'm at GMT -8, and I work full time. 20:00 GMT = noon for me...I'm at work. 23:00 GMT = 3 p.m. for me ... :( I'm still at work. :(

I usually have pretty good luck scheduling with Euroepean players on the weekends (I could do those times on Saturday or Sunday, no problem) or in the mornings (15:30 is a good time for me, I'm still getting ready for work and can get in a game or too if I dont have any trials or out of county court appearances).

My usual playing time is 04:30 GMT - 07:30 GMT, but nobody ever wants to play me at that time-- I wonder why?

Let me know what works for you, thanks.

[Swoosh So]

Best way to contact me is at wolves forum its in ezboard format (i rarely check my emails) Im ok with playing the weekend will have to be sunday tho :) post here what time u can make it on sunday.

[Dionysus9]

Sunday we are celebrating my son's first birthday in the evening...let me think what time I could make it. Probably around 1:00 p.m my time, that makes 21:00 GMT? How does that sound?

21:00 GMT Sunday?

[Swoosh So]

Ok sounds good to me :) Btw for map id say carcano or patay what you think?

[Dionysus9]

carcano is good, I'll see you there

[Swoosh So]

I won both games ill email the logs and replays soon, well played bachus. Ive saved a total of about 19 florins http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Lets say 0 florins to save any hassel :)

[Dionysus9]

Lol, I played pretty poorly and you played very well. I wish I could have given you a better fight. I'm actually kind of embarrassed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif heheh, well done Swoosh.

Good luck in the tourney.

[Swoosh So]

Embarrased lol have you seen my first round replays i was embarrased to win the first game when i was byzantine :)

[BomilkarDate]

Hehe seems you still had fun. And don't worry Bach, I'll try to annoy Swoosh for you... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.

That much

Bom

[Kansuke]

Hi,

Suppose Blizzard and I better start arranging our battles, I know you been away for a while Blizz, so just let me know when you are ready to go, me, well I'll never be ready heh.

Cya soon Blizz.

Kans http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

[Mithrandir]

Windows crashed on me, I've lost all of my files.
Both from the tournament and files of real life ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif ).

I'll have to see what I can do to get things running again.

I'll be back online (MTW) in 2 days.