the Black Prince
02-25-2004, 00:40
ok, rescused this post from Ithaskar, back in the repository. tried using it, but found its not completely accurate
i can't find any other definition of this, can someone help me?
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Grell the numbers after it represent how many Kings of a name have been previously. The number ties into the King names. Usually there are 8 Kings so you would get 8 numbers, except that 0's are left blank.
The third number gives the Roman numeral for the starting King because all factions use their first King name as their starting King.
*edit* Will add example to explain better.
Papal States(Early) have
FN_PAPIST 0 8 2 1 8 20 2 1 2 7
2nd number represents the number of names that the Papists use for Popes. This is also in the default_heroes.txt
3rd-10th numbers represent each of these 8 names by showing how many Popes of this name have ruled previously. So the next Pope Gregory (last Pope name) is assigned Roman Numeral 8 IIX.
When a faction just has 0 0 the factions is said to have had no previous Kings - the 0's for each name are left out.
ok, all well and good so far
now my example - the english
SetStartLeader:: FN_ENGLISH 0 7 0 2 0 0 2 1 2
now english royal forenames are
"Henry"
"Edward"
"Richard"
"John"
"William"
"Alfred"
"Edmund"
"Stephen"
so the first english king should therefore be henry - but its william. 2nd number is accurate though. william starts with william II, and the 5th number in that list is 2, so that makes sense i guess.
BUT if 0s are discarded, why are there zeros here? and how does the game know if 0s have been left out. there are 8 english names, but 7 numbers, so which number doesn't have one? is it always the last ones?
this makes sense, because if some factions have 4 numbers
0 2 0 1, but zero is discarded, the second zero isn't necessary except to push that 1 back to position two, so that the 2nd kings name has the 1.
fianlly, the english names in default heroes are suppossed to match those in names.txt aren't they?
there are no english forenames defined in changes.txt only english heroes names. so the list in names.txt and default_heroes should match, but it doesn't.
"Henry" {"Alfred"}
"Edward" {"Edward"}
"Richard" {"Edmund"}
"John" {"Edgar"}
"William" {"William"}
"Alfred" {"Henry"}
"Edmund" {"John"}
"Stephen" {"Harry"}
left is default heroes, right is names.txt
now i know that the default heroes list appears in the game, in that order but just adding names to that list doesn't work, so what gives?
as for famous kings...
name is supposed to be name in order on list, where 0 = first name and 7 = eigth name
but this doesn't work either. when that name and number comes up, the stats are all wrong.
now we know henry V is a warrior king for england
henry is first on the list we know is used, so he must be 0 in the first column for english kings
FAMOUS_KINGS:: FN_ENGLISH 12
name.no.c d p a portrait nv
4,2, 3, 7, 3, 4, -1, tyrant2
0,1, 2, 4, 4, 7, -1, lawman1
7,1, 3, 4, 3, 4, -1, vaccilator1
0,2, 3, 6, 4, 6, -1, anger1
2,1, 5, 6, 5, 2, -1, mightywarrior3
3,1, 2, 5, 2, 2, -1, secret_tyrant3
0,3, 2, 4, 4, 3, -1, charity1
1,1, 2, 3, 3, 4, -1, lawman1
1,2, 1, 2, 3, 3, -1, secret_lust1
1,3, 3, 4, 3, 3, -1, mightywarrior1
0,4, 3, 5, 3, 5, -1, secret_tyrant3
0,5, 5, 4, 4, 5, -1, fearsome3
now looking at that we have several famous henry's
now Henry V could be either 0, 4 (i.e four previous kings have used that name) or more likely based on the previous stuff in this post 0, 5
now henry 5 would be a warrior with command 5 by that score... which makes sense.
now every starting king always starts with the same stats - ever noticed that? which suggests that every starting king is a famous one, simply to set those stats
first english king is william II
william is 5th on the list, so number 4
and indeed, first famous king is a 4, 2 - william II
now calling up viking on my laptop whilst typing, i will II has the following stats
command 4 (should be 3)
piety 3 (should be 3)
dread 9 (should be 7 + 2 fro v and v)
acumen 4 (acumen 4)
tyrant 2 becomes autocrat, which is right, giving the 9 dread overall, but why is the command off? he doesn't have defender or attacker stats which might explain it.
i tried starting games on different levels,and the only difference i noticed was that normal gave his ageas 29,and expert 39, not sure if this was coincidence or not though...
so basically, how does all this link together? anyone help me?????
i can't find any other definition of this, can someone help me?
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Grell the numbers after it represent how many Kings of a name have been previously. The number ties into the King names. Usually there are 8 Kings so you would get 8 numbers, except that 0's are left blank.
The third number gives the Roman numeral for the starting King because all factions use their first King name as their starting King.
*edit* Will add example to explain better.
Papal States(Early) have
FN_PAPIST 0 8 2 1 8 20 2 1 2 7
2nd number represents the number of names that the Papists use for Popes. This is also in the default_heroes.txt
3rd-10th numbers represent each of these 8 names by showing how many Popes of this name have ruled previously. So the next Pope Gregory (last Pope name) is assigned Roman Numeral 8 IIX.
When a faction just has 0 0 the factions is said to have had no previous Kings - the 0's for each name are left out.
ok, all well and good so far
now my example - the english
SetStartLeader:: FN_ENGLISH 0 7 0 2 0 0 2 1 2
now english royal forenames are
"Henry"
"Edward"
"Richard"
"John"
"William"
"Alfred"
"Edmund"
"Stephen"
so the first english king should therefore be henry - but its william. 2nd number is accurate though. william starts with william II, and the 5th number in that list is 2, so that makes sense i guess.
BUT if 0s are discarded, why are there zeros here? and how does the game know if 0s have been left out. there are 8 english names, but 7 numbers, so which number doesn't have one? is it always the last ones?
this makes sense, because if some factions have 4 numbers
0 2 0 1, but zero is discarded, the second zero isn't necessary except to push that 1 back to position two, so that the 2nd kings name has the 1.
fianlly, the english names in default heroes are suppossed to match those in names.txt aren't they?
there are no english forenames defined in changes.txt only english heroes names. so the list in names.txt and default_heroes should match, but it doesn't.
"Henry" {"Alfred"}
"Edward" {"Edward"}
"Richard" {"Edmund"}
"John" {"Edgar"}
"William" {"William"}
"Alfred" {"Henry"}
"Edmund" {"John"}
"Stephen" {"Harry"}
left is default heroes, right is names.txt
now i know that the default heroes list appears in the game, in that order but just adding names to that list doesn't work, so what gives?
as for famous kings...
name is supposed to be name in order on list, where 0 = first name and 7 = eigth name
but this doesn't work either. when that name and number comes up, the stats are all wrong.
now we know henry V is a warrior king for england
henry is first on the list we know is used, so he must be 0 in the first column for english kings
FAMOUS_KINGS:: FN_ENGLISH 12
name.no.c d p a portrait nv
4,2, 3, 7, 3, 4, -1, tyrant2
0,1, 2, 4, 4, 7, -1, lawman1
7,1, 3, 4, 3, 4, -1, vaccilator1
0,2, 3, 6, 4, 6, -1, anger1
2,1, 5, 6, 5, 2, -1, mightywarrior3
3,1, 2, 5, 2, 2, -1, secret_tyrant3
0,3, 2, 4, 4, 3, -1, charity1
1,1, 2, 3, 3, 4, -1, lawman1
1,2, 1, 2, 3, 3, -1, secret_lust1
1,3, 3, 4, 3, 3, -1, mightywarrior1
0,4, 3, 5, 3, 5, -1, secret_tyrant3
0,5, 5, 4, 4, 5, -1, fearsome3
now looking at that we have several famous henry's
now Henry V could be either 0, 4 (i.e four previous kings have used that name) or more likely based on the previous stuff in this post 0, 5
now henry 5 would be a warrior with command 5 by that score... which makes sense.
now every starting king always starts with the same stats - ever noticed that? which suggests that every starting king is a famous one, simply to set those stats
first english king is william II
william is 5th on the list, so number 4
and indeed, first famous king is a 4, 2 - william II
now calling up viking on my laptop whilst typing, i will II has the following stats
command 4 (should be 3)
piety 3 (should be 3)
dread 9 (should be 7 + 2 fro v and v)
acumen 4 (acumen 4)
tyrant 2 becomes autocrat, which is right, giving the 9 dread overall, but why is the command off? he doesn't have defender or attacker stats which might explain it.
i tried starting games on different levels,and the only difference i noticed was that normal gave his ageas 29,and expert 39, not sure if this was coincidence or not though...
so basically, how does all this link together? anyone help me?????