No Mercy Virtues?

[The_Emperor]

Hey guys, I just noticed something the other day...

There I was playing my campaign as usual when I took over a great many rebel provinces, each time I released them all showing great mercy.

Did I get any 'Mercy V&Vs', nope I released hundreds of them from four different provinces... But not one benefit for my kindness.

So I went the other way and decided to execute them all, and after I sacked my second rebel province and killed everyone, and right on cue I got my first 'Tyrannical V&V'.

In fact I don't remember my King ever getting a Mercy vice since before VI came out. Is it just me or is this the case?

[Eastside Character]

I think you can gain Mercy V&V faster if you deal with rebellions in your provinces, and not with the rebels captured in a newly conquered region.

Anyway I got many times Merciful virtue, so it is possible. Maybe your monarch had a high dread. Could that affect the situation? Im not sure, but I think it is could.

Regards,
EC

[Basileus]

After the VI patch its been hard to get it, i noticed it aswell.

[Atilla1]

You got the Tyrant trait (+3 dread, minus 2 happiness)from killing rebels?

You should be getting Swift Justice--->secret Rought Justice--->rough justice--->tough justice--->secret random justice--->random justice.


Tyrant comes from authoritarian--->autocrat--->secret tyrant---> tyrant--->despot

So far only the game creators know how to get this trait--I havent run accross anyone who has gotten it on a non-historical character or anyone who knows what to do to trigger it.

[kawligia]

Quote[/b] (Atilla1 @ Feb. 25 2004,19:31)]So far only the game creators know how to get this trait--
These game creators need to give up the funk...I'm so sick of everything about this game being a secret.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif shhhh, don't tell them how the game works. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-curtain.gif

[The_Emperor]

Quote[/b] (Atilla1 @ Feb. 26 2004,01:31)]You got the Tyrant trait (+3 dread, minus 2 happiness)from killing rebels?

You should be getting Swift Justice--->secret Rought Justice--->rough justice--->tough justice--->secret random justice--->random justice.
Sorry I did actually mean the first 'Swift Justice' one. My point was I got my first 'Rebel executing V&V' from sacking just two provinces, yet I conquered many more and still didn't see one 'Merciful Virtue'.

Maybe I'd be better off just killing them all anyway (or at least executing the ringleaders)


Quote[/b] ]nyway I got many times Merciful virtue, so it is possible. Maybe your monarch had a high dread. Could that affect the situation? Im not sure, but I think it is could

No he was a low dread weak monarch (hence a couple of rebellions) the rest of the rebels I conquered by sacking Ireland, Norway and Sweden (and the surrounding area)