Thirty Years War mod

[Deceiver]

Yo all
After getting some "moding" experience I am going to kill my free time by making new mod - Thirty Years War in Europe. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
It will take part in Central Europe and Scandinavia, and I will make as start date 1575 and end date 1675.
I already gathered all info and unit types from that era and I just need to start, but first i would like to ask some questions before I start.

1. I am still wrestling with Lukmap, I dont get it yet.I want to make new map of Germany,Austrian Empire and Scandinavia + Spanish lands in Germany. Do I need to open and modifiy only Lukmap.lbm with new borders form existing one? Maptex doesn't have any connection with that one?

2. How to make "looks" of new units in the battle? in Maya 3D?

3. And last http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif , If you ppl have ideas of some new units and buildings pls tell me. I take advices. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I already have some unit types ( Armoured pikeman, Light pikeman, Aqrebusier, Musketeer, Jaeger, Roundshielder, Militia, Peasant irregulars, Scotish mercenaries, Livonian curassers, Swedish "commanded" musketers, Croatian Hussars, Dragoons, Heavy Curassers, Mounted aqrebusiers, Finnish light cavalry, Organ gun, Culverin, Demi-culverin, Mortar, Hungarian border infantry, Gendarmes, Swedish currasers.)Most of this units are unique to only one faction.
Playable factions will be: Swedish, Danes, Austrian Empire, Spanish, Dutch, Brandenburg, Saxony, Bavaria, Swiss.

P.S. i hope I will "really" start soon...

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[Julius Caesar]

Nice idea, can't wait to see ur mod finished.

[Ironside]

Citera[/b] ]Playable factions will be: Swedish, Danes, Austrian Empire, Spanish, Dutch, Brandenburg, Saxony, Bavaria, Swiss.


Shouldn't the French be in considering that they was at war with the Spanish and the Austrian Empire and supported the Swedes with money?

Of course you'll need only the eastern parts of France on the map.

It does sound as a very interesting mod. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thumbsup.gif

[Marshal Murat]

How about the Swedish Cannons, and Arquebisers. They should require less time to reload.
The cannons need to be moveable (ask the Lordz for help)

[Lazul]

As for sweden, all i know is that they used light cannons, as said before me... they should be moveable.
Swedish cavalry was really good as where the finish... well finns where swedes at that time... ehr, something like that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-confused.gif

Well if im not wrong the finish cavalry was called Hakkapelitas or something like that. Should be lightly armored but fanatic and brutal http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

Finnaly a mod where the swedes are the best (according to me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

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[Nomad]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif Sounds Cool,
But as your going to cover more than thirty years couldn't you make a larger map or even use the Current campaign map and make it, a Late Renaissance or Pike and musket mod. That way could have a few Vityaz clashing with Mamluks, Xebecs with Galleas etc etc etc. I know The Blind King was planning something like this, to continue from 1454 to 1575 but its not even passed through the conversation stage. Otherwise I like these mini campaigns, so look forward to what ever you finally produce.
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[wilpuri]

Lazul, you can't really call the Finns Swedes. Different language and everything http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
But yes, they were effective light cavalry, recruited from Finland because the Finnish Horse breed (effectively the same as the Russian) was bigger than the Swedish horses, so they made better horses for battle. The name Hakkapelita (or hakkapeliitta) comes from the battle cry of the Finns "hakkaa päälle" which roughly translated would be something like "hack them down".

Great idea for a mod, can't wait until I get to plunge Europe into turmoil as 'the Lion of the North' http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Ellesthyan]

Dude, that would be so cool I'd love to play with good ol' William of Orange, for example, and kick those Spanish butts myself http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-toff.gif

France really ought to be a big player, as frankly it was one of the main countries participating in the 30 years war.

I advice you to create a totally new map (or just use a smaller part of the current one) and give it a new province lay out. You'll have a load of province slots free so much more options can be filled http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif

Absolutely necessary will be implementing the protestant religion. I hope you already know how to do that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

the Dutch: they were basically just rebels of the Spanish (habsburg) empire, but used a German like army. They hired a great amount of troops (usually Germans, Swiss, or Belgians), and recruit more and more native soldiers over the era. Dutch fortifications in the 17th century were very modern and powerful, and many times a siege was lifted by breaking the dikes so that their enemies would have to fight in the water...
The navy of the Dutch was unrivaled in the 17th century, and their admirals very good. Most of the money flowing in Holland came from trade, successful trips to the east and from investments by the filthy rich patricians in Holland.
The rebels had a fair amount of good leaders:
Prince William of Orange 5 1 4 6 clever with words
*first leader of the rebellion*
Lodewijk van Nassau 2 4 5 3 good attacker
*His brother, an able general*
William Lumey 1 6 3 2 merciless
*a "geus", leader of a Dutch pirate fleet*
Prince Maurits 3 5 5 3 great warrior
*Son of William, army commander*
Johan van Oldenbarneveldt *emissary*
*handled the economics of the republic*
Prince Frederik-Hendrik 4 2 6 5 good assaulter
*a great general, and a lover of art*

Take into account that Holland was a Republic, and that the "leader" of that republic was actually nothing more than an army commander. They should be called "Stadhouder", but the prince(ss) can be called prince(ss) as usual.
their names should be something like: William, Filip, Lodewijk, Adolf, Frederik, Maurits, John, Hendrik.

Phew, I hope that'll help you creating the Dutch :) I'm sorry I can't provide you with any unit types. I figure 3 quarter of the army would have been hired anyway...

[Earl of Sandwich]

As far as the question of Dutch names, Blind King's super early mod pack contains a Dutch names list within the names text file.

[Lord Of Storms]

Moved to the new mod development forum currently called Edit3 you may follow this topic there. thanks...LOS