The Horror!

[The Wizard]

Oh my god, I just found a big historical mistake in the Res Romanae.


Quote[/b] ]12th March: Today is the Zoroastrian day of Marduk, the creator of the universe.

Aside from the little spelling mistake, oh my God http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Marduk Zoroaster?? There was no connection Zoroaster was the prophet of Persian monotheism, accepted by Darius, lasting until Darius III, and revived by the Sassanid Persians. He denounced all the other gods of the peoples the Persians ruled over as devils. Bel-Marduk was the chief Babylonian god, ruling over a pantheon of some 65,000 gods. He was one of the devas according to Zoroaster There is no such thing as a Zoroastranian day of celebration for Bel-Marduk

Now maybe the Babylonians under the Persian Great Kings celebrated the day, but not Zoroastranians Sorry for the fuss, but, terrible. :\



~Wiz

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Then please send CA an e-mail http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stunned.gif

They've steped on... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif

[Ludens]

IIRC quite quickly after Zoroaster's death, the Gods which Zoroaster had denounced as demons were absorbed in the Zoroastrian religion as angelic beings. For example, by the time of Darius III, Anahita (originally a fertility / love goddess) had become the deity of rivers.

My sources for this are not professional historians though, so I might be entirely wrong.

[Seven.the.Hun]

damn, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif , and i was under the impression that i shot the sherriff and then stabbed the deputy, now i am just confused...

[Spino]

Quote[/b] ]Marduk Zoroaster?? There was no connection Zoroaster was the prophet of Persian monotheism, accepted by Darius, lasting until Darius III, and revived by the Sassanid Persians. He denounced all the other gods of the peoples the Persians ruled over as devils. Bel-Marduk was the chief Babylonian god, ruling over a pantheon of some 65,000 gods. He was one of the devas according to Zoroaster There is no such thing as a Zoroastranian day of celebration for Bel-Marduk

Blasphemous pigs They shall all drown in lakes of blood... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-behead.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-hanged.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-behead2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-toilet.gif

[Nowake]

Just saw this thread. I also noticed that but I wasn't sure. Do you think that the parthians religion will be screwed up now?

[The Wizard]

Parthians did not respect Persian values and just let live all the peoples under their rule. They weren't really Persian in the real sense of the word, unlike Sassanids. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Actually Ludens, I just read up on Zoroastranism a bit, and it seems that indeed the people that believed in Zoroaster under the Achaemenids, even after Xerxes, denounced the old Aryan, Assyrian, Babylonian, etc. gods as devils.

Now under the Sassanids (the name actually comes from a Zoroastranian priest, Sassan), some prime gods such as those you mention were made into holy creatures of Ahura Mazda. Not only were they now considered holy and thus good, some were also elevated back to the position of gods



~Wiz

[Nowake]

Actually Ludens, I just read up on Zoroastranism a bit, and it seems that indeed the people that believed in Zoroaster under the Achaemenids, even after Xerxes, denounced the old Aryan, Assyrian, Babylonian, etc. gods as devils.


Aryan? I think we have a problem here. Aryans were a christian sect.

[The Wizard]

Aryans were the people that came from the north of the kaukasus millenia before Christ and established a rule over the later lands of the Achaemenid empire and also ruled over India before the Mauryan empire came in to being.



~Wiz

[Nowake]

Arians maybe. They were indo-europeans.

Aryans comes from Aryan, a heretic christian monk that spread his beliefs among many german barbarian tribes.

[The Wizard]

Then he got his name from 'Aryans', as it is spelled, like 'Arians'. Read "Creation", by Gore Vidal. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif



~Wiz

[meravelha]

@Nowake

I believe you are thinking of the Arian Heresy so-called after the followers of Arius, Presbyter of Baucalis, a district of the City of Alexandria.

The movement denied the full divinity of Christ.
It was very popular among the goths and some sections of the army late into the fourth century.


a fuller description can be googled at will :)