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Marshal Murat
08-28-2004, 02:24
Hello almost three weeks!!!
Were is the mod?
Don't worry. nearly there now. We had a bit of trouble with our techtree but DJs sorted it.
Duke John
08-28-2004, 16:07
We have 2 seperate castle lines, one for good factions and one for evil factions. We thought this could be easily modded, but that wasn't the case. It took me quite a few days of debugging and some tricks to make it work. Now I'm finishing up, but guess what, M:TW refuses to start :wall:
Duke John
08-31-2004, 20:53
I'm modding Hoggy's unitgraphics into the game, and it's looking beautifull, so I just had to post some screenshots:
Easterlings
http://chronicles.metw.net/images/screens/screen_01_01.jpg
Elves
http://chronicles.metw.net/images/screens/screen_01_elves.jpg
http://chronicles.metw.net/images/screens/screen_01_orcs_elves.jpg
Orcs
http://chronicles.metw.net/images/screens/screen_01_orcs.jpg
Cheers, Duke John
The Blind King of Bohemia
08-31-2004, 21:12
Jesus wept, when is this beauty able for beta testing DJ?
beautiful unit graphics, are they a lot more detailed than the standard M:TW units?
Duke John
09-01-2004, 07:41
BKB
I don't know when we can beta test and I don't want to estimate anymore. Over the last few weeks I had so many setbacks moddingwise, and real life interfered also alot. Although I've tackled most of the problems there still are some things that need to be done before a beta.
Peregrine
The resolution is the same, or sometimes even less because we need to put alot of animations in the BIF. But the 3D models made by Hoggy that were used to render the graphics were more detailed, so it does appear as if the resolution/detail is better. Still the same amount of pixels.
your models look 10x better. :)
Frodo Lives
09-03-2004, 22:50
MY GOD IN HEAVEN!! ~:eek:
Great looking screenshots.
Marshal Murat
09-04-2004, 13:45
So what are the problems your having, maybe we can help!?
this mod looks beautiful
keep us updated please
yeah, keep working on the mod! I love tolkien and I am going to love this mod.
~:cheers:
Radier.
Is there anyone with knowledge with modding txt files in mtw to help us for finishing the mod (custom battle mod) ?
A lot of work is already done but the mod has stalled, thus, do not hesitate 1 second if you have the knowledge..., it could be never released...
maximus decimus meridius
11-09-2004, 14:44
I have some experience in MTW modding, now i have just release my Fall of Rome 3.0 mod and i've a few time before i'll start working on Fall of Rome 3.1 addon.
Only one question, what exactly you need?
Max
A working interface for unit selection without bugs is the most important for a custom battle mod, i will pm you a link of the current version of metw ,so you can have a look.
Thx.
Cheers ~:cheers:
-Icare
PittBull260
11-15-2004, 19:57
MAN!!! THIS MOD IS OFF THE MUTHAFUNKING HOOK!!!
i just downloaded the beta version, OH..MY..GOD!! This mod is soo good it should be sold as an expansion pack (i'm serious)
CONGRATS!!
KyodaiSteeleye
11-27-2004, 19:45
Just by way of encouragement - this mod looks great, and you must be nearly there with it - just one last push and you'll have a great game that you can be really proud of, and i'm sure will get played a lot (i for one am not going down the battle for middle earth route).
Span.
Pericles
12-10-2004, 02:15
This is excellent. I will be looking forward to playing this gem.
I love the Lord of the Rings.
BTW, the extended version of The Return of the King will be available on Dec 14, 2004. It will have an additional 50 minutes of film added to the original theatrical release.
I have the extended versions of the first two films and they are worth it.
Will this version have a campaign mode?
Keep up the great work, fellas.
MTW has a bright future. . . :charge:
hi all this is a damn nice expancien i whase wondering where cane i download this and is it a self distrect map or do you have to cut and past it and is it a compleet expancien or do you have to download every thing seprettly i really loveto have it ~:) ~:)
give the masses a progress update............ :)
Will this version have a campaign mode?
Yes.
A custom battle map mod will be released before, then the campmap version.
Max is doing the work for a working mod, i am working graphic elements for the campmap and sounds, finally Ronin is finishing the campmap texture.
hi all this is a damn nice expancien i whase wondering where cane i download this and is it a self distrect map or do you have to cut and past it and is it a compleet expancien or do you have to download every thing seprettly i really loveto have it
It will be out soon, and you will have a setup program that will automatically install files and convert every large files (like the campmap texture or the sounds).
I hope it will be out around christmas (2 weeks)*
i will drop a link here when done ~;)
Pericles
12-10-2004, 18:55
Playing this mod while watching the LoTR movies will be a treat :charge:
All fans are looking forward to this.
We appreciate your efforts, fellas ~:cheers:
Yes.
A custom battle map mod will be released before, then the campmap version.
Max is doing the work for a working mod, i am working graphic elements for the campmap and sounds, finally Ronin is finishing the campmap texture.
It will be out soon, and you will have a setup program that will automatically install files and convert every large files (like the campmap texture or the sounds).
I hope it will be out around christmas (2 weeks)*
i will drop a link here when done ~;)
ace, cheers.
thx i will be waithing for it i find it a verry nice expancien for what i have seen at screen shots i love it all ready
i have the HTW also its fantastic what you all do , i find you all real artists
thx :duel: ~:cheers:
The Blind King of Bohemia
12-13-2004, 22:26
Will the Mordor and Dwarven units be in the christmas release. I'm waiting for this release with much anticipation ~D
When i say
A custom battle map mod will be released before It means that most of the units and major battlemaps will be included. (Gondor, Mordor, Harad, Dwarves, Mount Gundabad, Elves, Rohan and Isengard)
The campmap version will have: a map and a background for the campaign, new graphics (infopics, portraits, icons, pieces).
Moreover, i began to add new sfx and musics.
We will do our best in order to finish the custom battle mod around christmas.
Modding metw now :computer:
Pericles
12-17-2004, 22:06
I can't wait to see this Mod.
I watched all three of the extended LoTR movies this week. Almost 12 hours of movie goodness.
What an epic - Peter Jackson deserves only the highest praise.
Being able to play this mod will be a true delight.
Cheers!
Mudshovel
12-19-2004, 06:38
mmmm i cant wait to play this mod , but i have a kuestion , units of the battle of the last alliance can be used in the battlefield???? heroes like gandalf , sauron , or the mumakils or something ( you now , the elephants of the easterlings )can be used too??
and can give me a exactly release date of the mod??? ~:handball:
NagatsukaShumi
12-19-2004, 19:13
I can answer one of your questions.
There are no heroes so no Gandalf, Aragorn, Frodo etc, it would have caused the team too much legal hassle had the lawyers from any Tolkiens related enterprise gotten their eyes on it.
Pericles
01-05-2005, 21:21
I just wanted to pass the word on that according to the ME:TW development forum this mod is still being developed :charge:
Yay ~:cheers:
Yes and ill still be here waithing ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: :balloon2: :juggle2: :knight: :knight: :knight: :knight: :knight:
me too.................... ~:handball:
Does anyone know what is up with the metw.net? I had been working on the unit descriptions and now the website has been inaccessible for the past few days... :(
I hope they've put up the Mod and that that's the reason why their Bandwith is exceeded. ~:)
i hope so too, but there would have been an announcement either here or the totalwarcentre
Check my pm Myrano ~:) cheers.
Pericles
02-03-2005, 18:36
Don't worry folks - this mod is still in development.
ME:TW is nearing completion.
More info here:
http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=359
Pericles
02-03-2005, 18:42
Here is some info from the ME:TW development forum:
ME:TW - Viking Invasion Frequently Asked Questions
Last Updated: 13-Jun-2004
Answers to frequently asked questions about the mod, and some other important information can be found here.
If you have another question, try the Question & Answer thread. If your question is still not answered, post it there and we'll try to answer it as best we can. Answers from the Q&A thread will be added here as appropriate.
If you have a suggestion to make rather than a question, please head over to the Suggestion Box.
If you need help getting something in the mod to work, try the Support forum.
If you think you might be able to help with the mod, show us what you can do in The Pits of Orthanc.
General Questions
Q: What version of Medieval: Total War is the mod being made for?
A: Whilst initially (the 0.1-0.3 betas) being developed for MTW v1.1, the mod is now being developed for the Viking Invasion expansion (v2.0 and 2.1 of VI are both fine).
Q: When will the mod be released?
A: Unfortunately we can't give an estimate of this. We're all volunteers, and there is a lot of work in a lot of areas for this mod, especially since we want to do the best job of it that we can. If you want an idea of how the mod is progressing, check out this thread.
Q: Will anymore betas be released to the public prior to the release of the full version?
A: It is unlikely. When we began to move the mod to VI and develop the campaign, our working process changed from faction-by-faction to aspect-by-aspect (with all factions being developed concurrently). This was to ensure compatability, consistency, and balance between all the factions, and it is also significantly less complicated to use this method when developing the campaign.
As a result, we do not have another "completed" (or at least fully functional) faction that we could release as a beta. Instead we have a lot of partially-completed factions, and they are all going to be finished at pretty much the same time - and there's the final release. So you'll just have to sit tight. Smile
Q: Where can I download the mod from?
A: Go to the Downloads thread in the Official News Updates forum. You can find all the downloads there.
Q: Is the mod dead? There hasn't been any news in a while, can you give us something?
A: No the mod is definately not dead! The Dev Team is hard at work making this mod, and it is progressing nicely. We understand that everyone is eager for news, but we can only release stuff when it is complete. When we do have something, rest assured that we'll let you all know!
Q: Do you need any help? I'm willing to help.
A: We have a good team and at the moment it looks like we've got most bases covered. But we're always happy to get new talented members. If you think you can help, show us what you can do in The Pits of Orthanc.
Q: Why doesn't it look like the movies?
A: This mod is based on the works of Tolkien, not Peter Jackson. The movies are 'one group of fans interpretation of the books', and the mod is another. There will be similarities between the two interpretations, and there will be differences.
Q: Will the music from the movies be used in the mod?
A: No. The mod is based on the books not the movies, plus the music is subject to copyright. If you own the soundtracks and want to listen to them while you play, that's your perogative (and perfectly legal), but we won't be distributing or supporting the distribution of Howard Shore's music.
Factions
Q: What playable factions will there be?
A: There will be 8 Major (playable) factions in ME:TW. They are:
The Eldar (Elves)
Erebor (Dwarves)
Gondor
Harad
Isengard
Mordor (including Easterlings)
Mount Gundabad (Misty Mountains Goblins/Orcs)
Rohan
Q: What will the faction leaders and royal units be?
A: This is still to be finalised, but how it stands currently is:
Faction - Leader - Royal Unit
Eldar - Lord of the Eldar - Noldor Swords
Erebor - King under the Mountain - Dwarrow Guard
Gondor - Steward of Gondor - Guard of the Citadel
Harad - Emperor of the Haradwaith - Red Serpent Guard
Isengard - Chief of Orthanc - Uruk-hai Beserkers
Mordor - Lieutenant of Barad-dur - Black Numenorean Guard
Gundabad - Great Goblin - Great Goblin Guard
Rohan - King of the Mark - Rohan Royal Guard
Q: Will there be neato titles unique to each province on the camp. map like in MTW? And what about Offices like High Warden of the Tower, Lieutenant of Morgul, or Marshal of the Riddermark?
A: Yes there will be Titles for each province, and Offices (like the examples given in the question) for the various factions as well.
Units
Q: Will the Nazgul be in the game? How good will they be? Will they be on flying fell beasts?
A: Yes there will be Nazgul. They will be in 3 units of 3 Nazgul each, and will be 'unbuildable' (although it will be possible to retrain them to recover their losses, provided an entire unit doesn't get wiped out). They will be excellent generals, and cause fear in most troops. However they will have very weak attack and low personal morale, to hopefully keep them out of direct combat. Unfortunately MTW doesn't cater too well for flying units, so the Nazgul will be on horseback.
Q: Will there be Ents, Trolls, Mumakil (Oliphants), Dragons, Balrogs, Huorns, or the Army of the Dead?
A: Mordor will have an Olog-hai unit (trolls), but that's it for 'exotic' creatures.
Q: Will there be siege engines? Will there be Grond?
A: Yes there will be siege engines - most likely just catapults. Grond will unfortunately not be included.
Campaign
Q: I can't get the campaign to work!
A: That's because there is no campaign at the moment! The betas that have been released only enable custom battles to be played. The final release will however have a campaign, so be patient!
Q: Will there be special castles for places like Minas Tirith, Edoras, Barad-dur, etc?
A: Yes. There are some unofficial maps like these in The Pits of Orthanc, which we may well end up using in the game.
Q: What will the general battle maps be like?
A: We are developing battle maps to suit every border crossing in the game, and these will have a Middle-Earth feel.
Q: Will we be able to play as Frodo/Gandalf/other notable character from the books and will there be events such as The Quest for the Ring/The Return of the King/etc.
A: No. This is a Middle Earth: Total War mod, not a Lord of the Rings RPG. This is for both gameplay and legal reasons.
Q: What year will the campaign start in?
A: The campaign will being in Third Age 2954, the year that Mount Doom bursts into flame again. To place it in context, here are some notable events from around that time:
2941 - Events of The Hobbit take place.
2951 - Sauron declares himself openly and returns to Mordor.
2953 - Saruman takes Isengard as his own and fortifies it.
3018-9 - Events of The Lord of the Rings take place. (Although of course, they will not be a part of the game. Everything that happens after 2954 is up to the players!)
Enjoy the mod!
- The ME:TW Team
http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185
^ Seems like we're both eagerly waiting for the same thing huh? ~:)
UPDATE:
I think ME: TWVI is going to be out TOMOROW. Look in this thread, here: [here] (http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=380&start=36) if you go to the last post on page four of the topic you will see one of the modders mention that they will upload it tomorow (the seventh.) CHEERS!
"Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:05 am Post subject:
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Ok guys, the mod is almost finished.
We are adding the deadpage (the bodies for the battlefield) and if everything go fine, i will upload it tomorrow."
Beta 7.0 released :
http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=414
The Blind King of Bohemia
03-12-2005, 00:29
Is there any way to get this mod without joining bit torrent?
Yes http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4386#4386
If someone can hosting it somewhere else, that would be great.
ace, d/l'ing as soon as i can find a single non-torrent d/l.
You can d/l via http with the 2nd link
Trajen the 1st
03-14-2005, 02:18
Icare, you da man! So now the that done with when can we expect a campiagn realease? soon i hope! ~D
that's what i'm waiting for. :charge:
Hi folks
I have done some testings on Beta 7.0 and I have found a one explanation of the frequent CTD
It relates to one infamous ennemy of modders: The FACSHIELDS
Now with the symptoms:
Gondorian Winged Guards and Swan Knights systematically CTD
Sindarin units sometimes CTD and sometimes don't
These units have all in common that they are currently placed in Bif folders where other unrelated units have a facshield
As we know from the Org, this is a cause for quite random CTD
My solution: We need to avoid using these Bif folders if we can as the current knowledge at the .org was that you couldn't add more units in facshields folders
I will check to see if this solve all problems
PS: Units likely to create a CTD
Gondor
Winged Guard
Swan Knight
Elves
Sindarin (all 3 units)
Harad
Harad Infantry
METWMenCav
PS: I played a game with all the factions and all new units except the ones above and I didn't get any CTD.
PYJ99
The Blind King of Bohemia
04-07-2005, 20:52
The mod you have made thus far is amazing. Though I think the evil factions especially Morder need their morale a little higher as men, Dwarves and especially the Elves totally destroy them! Not even mass numbers make a difference ~D
Oh and whoever made the battle maps is a genius, they are truely amazing as are the units. Well lads, spledid work
More units we can't use at the moment (all because they are sharing a bif folder with a facshield unit)
Harad skirm
HaradSpears
EreborGuard (aka golden dwarf)
PYJ
all download links at ME-TW forum are non-functional,
the Demonoid/torrent site is refusing new registrations
please advise where to grab a copy
we can put it into the Org's downloads for you
(that way there is ALWAYS going to be a functional download available for you)
cheers,
B.
GeneralTildor
05-19-2005, 14:01
I was wondering, since I am new to the org and a big fand of LOTR where I can download ME: TW at.
General TIldor.
a current copy resides in the large file upload directory here
we cannot download from that directory
i will be moving it (this coming weekend) to somewhere we can download it from
cheers,
B.
A patch for the beta 7.0 is out:
http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=615
Trajen the 1st
07-05-2005, 13:45
A patch for the beta 7.0 is out:
http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=615
Nice, so when can we expect a campiagn version? Ive been dying to conquor Middle Earth since i was dissapionted by the medicore BFME by EA. Please get it out soon. ~:)
Nice, so when can we expect a campiagn version? Ive been dying to conquor Middle Earth since i was dissapionted by the medicore BFME by EA. Please get it out soon. ~:)
Most of the stuff for the campaign is ready for a beta(map, pieces, interface, sounds and musics,portraits,pictures for buildings, descriptions for units, buildings and campaign, and many other things...).
We are currently making the techtree for each factions, then i suppose we will release a new beta with the campaign. ~:cheers:
Cheers to that!
~:cheers:
Trajen the 1st
07-06-2005, 01:49
Most of the stuff for the campaign is ready for a beta(map, pieces, interface, sounds and musics,portraits,pictures for buildings, descriptions for units, buildings and campaign, and many other things...).
We are currently making the techtree for each factions, then i suppose we will release a new beta with the campaign. ~:cheers:
Cool! Hope to see it soon. Take care. ~:)
Advo-san
07-14-2005, 13:42
To the creators of METW:
You are Eru's gift to this world, the light of the Two Trees surely shines within you! Thank you for creating this mod, which I was dreaming for ! And please keep expanding it!! :bow: :afro:
Lord Sefros
07-18-2005, 23:39
i downloaded this mod yesterday and i have to say wow its given me a whole new reason to play mtw so thx guys hope the SP is done soon i cant wit to kick some isengard ass :duel: :charge:
Advo-san
07-20-2005, 13:11
I can't get the mod to work... Is it because I have already installed XL? METW must be installed only over MTW:VI?
Please help, I want to try it!! :help: :help:
A clean install of Medieval total war + Viking Invasion is required before installing metw.
Lord Sefros
07-22-2005, 06:24
um how come the rtw guys get a campaign and mtw doesnt ~:confused: ~:mecry: im just wondering im not trying to be pushy i know these things take time im really just being nosy
The campaign in mtw in fact is ready, but many pics for building are missing and a specific techtree for every faction is missing.
If you are looking for informations about the progress, i can give you a link for an early stage of the campaign beta, but don't expect to play a lot with it.
If you look carefully, the campaign for rome is far from being perfect (even if it is already awesome) and complete, encaitar is working hard on it.
The campaign map could have been completed sooner with more people (it is sad when important members can't stick anymore with a project) or if i had spent my time on it rather than the battlemaps and units animations. A matter of choice and priority.
Lord Sefros
07-23-2005, 09:51
thx for the info i guess i just got a little jealous sine i cant play rtw on my pc p4 1.5 nvidia geforce 2 64 mb 256 ram so yah i suck i no oh well i have about another $75 to go before i can upgrade my card and then get the game :bigcry: :computer: :sad:
Advo-san
07-26-2005, 11:16
:help: pleaseee..........
I can't get the mod to work.... I do a fresh install of MTW:VI, I then install beta 7.1 but I get a "cannot read" message.... What am I dong wrong?
Last Release of metw http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=825
Trajen the 1st
11-27-2005, 03:46
Last Release of metw http://www.metw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=825
LAST release of metw? I hope you dont mean what i think you mean and that the mod is bieng closed.~:confused:
Aenarion
11-27-2005, 12:10
I guess Icare83 meant latest release ...
Aurelian
11-27-2005, 16:34
The message he has on the METW forum (linked above) suggests that the mod is done for the moment. He said that he's lost interest and may or may not pick it up again later. So, this really could be the last release if nobody comes back to it. He did say that if anybody wanted to work on it further they could get in touch with him if they needed his help. See the link above for the whole message.
So it would seem, though it is a shame, I´ve not seen such beautiful units before, from what I´ve seen so far, they even look better than the vanilla ones, their weapons and shields don´t seem hover in front of them. And am I wrong or are they really depicted from eight angles instead of only four?
By the way, even though I´ve downloaded the campaign 0.7 I can´t start it, it won´t show in the campaign selection screen. It seems strange, since for custom battles an option saying 3rd age appears.
For installing metw:
1- Medieval Total war & Viking invasion addon.
2- Metw 7.0 -> MetwBeta7.0.exe
3- (Campaign) Metw 7.0a -> Metw Campmap beta7.0a.exe
4- Patch to 7.1a -> Metw patch 7.0 to 7.1a (medieval).exe
5- The compressed files -> metw2.rar
6- Some more files in your mtw root folder -> metw.rar
Indeed this release is the latest release, and maybe it is the last release (well before, i was absolutely sure that it would be the last one because i thought first that not many people were still interested about this mod.)
Finally, i can see there is still some people who are interested about this mod, i don't think i will play the mod once finished (if it get finished) but i could help to finish the campaign and make a big install (the current one is a bit tricky :/ i guess i was lazy).
Maximus (from fall of rome mod) did a good job so far, first it was decided to make only the beta7.0 (custom battle) and finally we continued with the campaign and now i think it would not be fair to ask him more help again.
I got some pm's from people proposing their help, i will be glad to continue this mod with fellow modders !
Cheers - Icare
I got the campaign to work, though the last files in metw.rar are still missing, the download in the metw forum didn´t work. Now they work, I´ll still have to install them. Thank you for updating the DL link. The size of 27kb is correct? The campaign map is truly beautiful, though it´s kind of hard to play, completely without descriptions of what building does what and lacking diplomats and princesses to spy the land.
In fact wizards will be acting like priest, they will be able to bring alliance, spy and the preaching thing will act as bringing corruption or not.
Pericles
12-02-2005, 18:36
A lot of people care about this mod.
The unit art is amazing....
Please, I hope that this mod can be worked on some more...
And one single large, self-installer for the mod would be very, very helpful...
Cheers!
Indeed, they look even better than the vanilla units. I´d kill for having the artistic talent to make those.
I noticed some problems with Isengard, however. Sometimes custom battles will ctd when Isengard units take part and there´s something wrong with the pike unit, once they move they don´t resume their formation but run wildly all over the place.
I just love this mod Icare. It will stay with me for many many years if fully developed. ~:cheers:
Icare,
The work you and your team have done so far is simply amazing! I think I'm like a lot of people who would be thrilled if the mod could be even more fully realized, but unfortunately don't have the modding skills themselves to actually do the work. I'm not sure what we could do to help- Play-balancing? Beta Testing? Tweaking things on the campaign map? Maybe it would help if you spell out, just generally, what still needs to be done.
It would be a shame to leave such incredible work unfinished, but I completely understand your position; 2 plus years is quite a time commitment to anything, much less a game (for instance it's longer than I lasted in college ~:) )
Thank you for the brilliant work you have done so far, and for offering to help others who could guide it towards completion.
I for one will be hoping for that eventual day with great anticipation !!!!!! This mod has such tremendous potential !!!!!
maximus decimus meridius
12-09-2005, 01:46
Icare.
Hi mate, hoe are you, sorry but i was very busy with my job in the last period ...
anyway now i'm developing a Fall of Rome mod for RTW, but i think that i'll have some free time to help you in january, if you want to continue to develope METW ......
let me know what do you think ..
bye
max
~:)
Hi max ! Good to see you again ~:cheers: .
No need to apologize, you gave a lot of your personal time to the metw mod already ~:) and by the way, i was busy myself, so...
Two guys are currently finishing the mod (Jack and cegorach) i will continue metw with them. Your help will be more than welcome in january.
Cheers - Icare
P.s: I am looking forward to your mod Fall of Rome for RTW as i was a bit disappointed with B.I .
Pericles
12-09-2005, 15:29
Good news.
I have been looking forward to playing this mod for some time.
A METW mod that is a bit more polished and balanced will be very welcome.
Cheers!
AmbrosiusAurelianus
08-24-2006, 17:28
Was the campaign for this mod ever finished? I read the post by Icare83 supplying a link to the last release, but the download link isn't working: metw.net seems to be offline.
Can anyone provide a download link or give any further information? I know I am probably dredging up a very old project, but I'd like to see how far you guys got. I always fancied this mod for MTW rather RTW. Cheers for any help!
I would also like to find out if there is a download for this mod, and who - if any - are working on it.
There was one on METW.net, but I suppose it went down with the rest of the site. I don´t know whether or not the MTW version will still be supported by the new METW forum team (the link´s in the RTW forge threat).
AmbrosiusAurelianus
08-25-2006, 10:40
Thanks for the info, Ciaran! I'll have a look in the forge.
Edit: I found this link in the forge, if anyone is interested.
http://www.lotrtw.com/download.html
It contains a fan-made "Movie Edition" that apparently merges the old METW with LOTR units. I think I'll have a deek!
I believe that is ME:TW for RTW, not for MTW.
Well, the most recent work for metw has been lost via some email problems, then metw.net...
Metw for mtw is hosted at 3ddownloads:
http://www.3ddownloads.com/totalwar/Hosted%20Mods/METW%20-%20Middle%20Earth%20Total%20War
http://metw.free.fr/Campmap/Metw%20Campmap%20beta7.0a.exe **
Anyway, i have an old version of metw for the campaign (Nov2005):
http://idinfo66.free.fr/metw.rar
http://idinfo66.free.fr/metw2.rar
It is still very buggy.
Install :
METW_for_MedievalVI_Beta7.0.zip
Metw Campmap beta7.0a **
Metw patch 7.0 to 7.1a medieval.zip
metw.rar
metw2.rar
** = Edited
AmbrosiusAurelianus
08-26-2006, 13:19
I believe that is ME:TW for RTW, not for MTW.
You are right. My mistake, sorry!
Thank you, Icare83, for the link. It's good to see that some of your work is still available.
A link was missing, i edited my last post.
The Blind King of Bohemia
08-27-2006, 10:46
I installed the mod a few months back and had a problem with the campaign map. It was like the medieval map but with LOTR province names. The map was that of eastern europe and north africa. It happening again when i installed it again. Is the map fully workable?
The image for the map is large, if you tick the box at the end of the installation(Metw Campmap beta7.0a), it should run an app that will convert the textures for the map to TGA.
You can still run the app by launching some runme.bat files inside the installation.
It was done very quickly and for internal use for the mod team only, so the installation is very tricky, sorry.
Revenant
08-28-2006, 08:43
Hi Icare,
I am very glad that somebody from METW development team shows here and especially you :2thumbsup:
I just want to know if somebody is still working on METW campaign for MTW, such as Christoff, but I somewhat suppose it is not the case :(
You suppose right. The dev stopped a few weeks before metw.net went down.
Christof sent me an email with txt files, i answered the email but i didn't look inside the files immediatly. Later, when i checked the files, they were empty !
I asked several times for the files, he said he would send the files again, but he never did so and became somewhat upset with me i think.
Revenant
08-28-2006, 14:28
That is bad. I can try to do something with the campaign, but my aim will probably be to make functional campaign with METW units, but with standard MTW buildings (simplified building tree) and other stuff, because i am not artist and I am just not able to make nice graphics.
And I have to say that I have never fully understood what were your intentions with good and evil forts... So I will try to make some simple campaign and then we can to do some work with it...
Well, that was not my intention, i joined metw team as a battlemap maker first, the campaign was secondary for me.
You can grab some graphics for units ready for use here (you will have to rename them):
http://idinfo66.free.fr/30InfoPics.rar
If you can make a version more stable, i am ready to make a single install more simple with your work.
Revenant
08-28-2006, 22:46
That are very nice pictures.... it is shame the mod with so much potential is left unfinished :/
If someone would like to work on a stable campaign release (with the permission of Icare, etc, of course), I can offer them hosting (public and dev. forums). I would hate to see this mod without a (stable) campaign after all the hard work put into it by so many great modders.
with the permission of Icare, etc, of course
I didn't think my permission was needed. Anyway, anyone can try to mod the campaign, he got my permission and i think the other members of the team would agree with me.
There is no need to give me updates etc and so on, just tell me when you think you have something that could make the campaign game playable and i will help with the install and hosting.
Has anyone decided to work on a stable campaign?
I'm willing to help now that the school holidays in Australia are in. I've been working with the unit stats to make it more Rock-Paper-Scissors sort of gameplay. It's coming along ok. I noticed that the evil factions are severely under-powered. So I'm working on that.
So do you want my help?
Hi all
I hope somme one still is working on the campain for this mod i think this would be a verry good mod i hope somme mod makers will help.
i dont now how to mod but i think i got the first beta version on cd rom sommewhere from the beginning if you need it??
Maybe the silmarllion mod makers could help i think they stopt making the silmarllion mod and i think thats to bad.
It would be great do to have Lord of the rings based on the medieval total war 1 version.
Sadly, I do not think anyone is working on this version anymore. There are, however, some talented guys working on a Middle Earth: Total War for RTW, and they should have a new release out in not too long a time - you can check out their forum here (http://www.chamber-of-records.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17).
Hi apoc
yes mate i now about the Middle Earth: Total War for RTW, i got all series of total war but medieval total war is just my favorite i think this is the best game ever made.
And i wos hoping they would give silmarllion/METW a other change there are so many good mod makers this would be a really great mod i think, there a 2 mods based on silmarllion/METW so maybe they cane make one big one they are almost the same i think? well mate i hope somme one will
but thanks any way mate:2thumbsup:
I have my doubts on whether such a "merger" would work - they are just too different; besides, they've both already done most of the units, and that's just about the only thing they would have in common (sort of). Also, I think that there is no 'METW Team' at the moment, so it would just be the STW Team. I hope someone will take up the task of getting out stable, playable versions of both METW and STW, and I would offer any aid I can (in the form of public & dev. forums, hosting for releases/beta versions, etc).
ye mate me to i hope so to
Just a heads up:
METW_for_MedievalVI_Beta7.0.zip
Metw patch 7.0 to 7.1a medieval.zip
Don't exist on 3D Downloads. You get a message saying:
File Not Found TeleFragged
We're sorry, but the file or directory you requested could not be found.
Chances are that the URL you used to get to 3D Downloads was incorrect or old, and that the file you wanted has moved or was deleted.
Aenarion
01-04-2007, 09:40
Yeah it's been a long while since any info or updates were given out. Hope nothing is going wrong with this mod just like our mod.
Fingers crossed!
Wel mate i got my fingers crossed and i hope they will make silmarllion and ME tw and i think i speak for a lot of players mate:2thumbsup:
Aenarion
01-07-2007, 10:27
Wel mate i got my fingers crossed and i hope they will make silmarllion and ME tw and i think i speak for a lot of players mate:2thumbsup:
Yeah I hope so too mate. Hehe .... we'll see ...
i hope the team comes together and finish this project.
their should be a law in mod making and talking about on forums if oyu begin it you should finish it. and don't just abandon it.
thats just me.
YOU PPL need to finish what you start. but thats just me.
im gonna see if i can't get some modders together to help finish this project. i got the beta 7.0 the patch 7.0a and the 7.1a---
im asking my friends over in stw for mtw. to help i also got my friend Lars ounce i get ahold of him.. and see if he is willing ot help. since he is doing a prject byhimself. for rtm.
im sure mtw for him will be no biggie and he is a lotr fan..
i just wanted to say that. i might have found sombdoy to do the description's
he is the admin and the one over at . samuari warlords mod. he has asked me for the links of the middle earth files.
i am atm take care of the unit-building-income balancing.
and possibly unit size if the support cost is to much.
if sombdoy is high knowledgeable in lord of the rings middle earth talking names of the region-units-races-history i welcome you to join. as brocca may need your info in filling out the description of everything... and seeing how brocca and ra's ghul were the creators of the samuri warlord mod. you can expect a swift and final resolution to this mod. and there being a completion and new hosted mod..
(for thoes whos till have faith i thank you and welcome you back)
ok i finished editing the unit.txt for metw.
its balanced and the support cost works.
now onto the balancing of the farm income production. after i balance that out i will need sombdoy to begin work on the building's them self as what they look like when trained or training..
all they have for this is 3 types of buildings and in a hury they just had all the same buidlings look alike.. so it hard to figure out in game which ones you need to train cause if oyu try to right click them to read them you either CTD or get an Error.
i will also edit the years it takes to make these buidlngs. the tech tree is finished i just need to balance out the buidlgins and there cost to build.
im still lookin for sombody who wants to do the graphics of the buildings portaits.
Hi Bonfire
would be great to see this mod working :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
thanks axel the mod itself is about 80% done you can still play custom battle with all the factions are done and the units.
but in campaign is not finished and it was put together in hury
my part in finishing this mode is balancing the units cost support and unit size for defualt settings along with editing the era description-unit descriptions and editing the names of the officers and kings.
but when it comes to graphics im totaly clueless. if you want axel see if oyu can find sombdoy who can do that. i jsut sepnt the last 24 hours reading up on LOTR history on wikpedia. i do have all the books i jsut didn't wanna sit here reading the books one after another for the next 3 mths..
anyways.. i finished gathering info on the factions and the era.
im gonna work tommorrow on the unit descripitons.
update progress.
unit_prod.txt finished editing and balance
building_prod will not touch tell we have better portraights and working campaing culture thingy. with descriptions and it stops erroring.. i'll do the decriptions but need sombdoy to make and add a few buildings i have in mind.
Description.txt as far as the % on this i'd say abou 70% i gotta rename the name area so when you right click the regions instead of land_reg_## you get the atual name of the region or when you conquer the region istead of wessex has ben conuer you actualy get the region name in the conquerer message.
faction and era descriptions i havr it completly on another peace of paper/txt copy...
just getting to display what is there is the part that is baffleing me. and since iim runnin on DR Pepper and Mug root beer for cafeine. i got nothing left im gonna go to bed and finish tommorrow.
im gonna be needing buildings of the following things. to be intergrated into the mod..
im gonna need dif pics for these buidlgins in this mod. perferbaly with their own files with them to go into there correct paths.
the buidlings are already in the game but there pics of buidlgins descriptions.
i jsut need either the buidlgin pic or a square pic in the right size and format for the mod these are the names of the type of builds or pics im lookin for.
Mordor-Isenguard-Gunbad Farming pic needs plus modded into game.
"rat hunters, Rat Breeders, Rat Breeding pit"
farming for harad is.
"Aqueducts, Farming, Farm Complex"
for rohan and gondor.
"Farmland 20%, Farmland 60%, Legendary Farms"
Elves
"elvish bread, Elvish Trade, Elvish Trading Network"
for the other building for mordor-isenguard-gunbad-and harrad
"plantir seaing stone, lidless eye"
"mordor Assassins, Rouge Training, Outlandish Training"
"Dark Gathering, Dark gathering 2, Dark gathering 3"
"Statue of Melkor, Satue of Morgoth, Statue of Saruon"
for gondor and rohan
"gondorian towers, Rohirm netowork"
"Gondorian Tavern, Gondorain Tavern hall, Gondorian tavern Facility"
"Embasy of light, Embasy of light 2, Embasy of light 3"
"Statue of Elendil, Garden, Planting of the White Tree"
Elves
"tree Top fort, tree top building"
"Rouge Elf Recruits, Better Tie Relations of Rouge Elfs, huge Elf Network"
"Matramonial Cout, Court of Law, Court of History"
"Slab of History Containting War of Wrath, Statue of Isildur and Sauron, Statue of Gil Galad"
Dwarves
"stone tower, stone fort"
"Dwarven hubble, Dwarven hall, Dwarven facility"
"Mead Hall, Mead Hall2, Mead Hall3"
"Head Statue of Durin the I, Quaote of Dwarves with AXE's Dwavres are abon you, Mytheril state of Durin I"
thats pretty much it as far as what is needed in the building tech tree.. portraits.
im gonan try and make the buildgins avaible to all relgion/cultres butint he unit and buildgins tech only certain cultures cna build certain things.
Hi mate
so you are really going to finnish the campain of this mod :yes: :yes:
i cant mod but is there sommething i cane do to help?
anything realy. wether it be gathering info. and posting here. that would be great.
i know that my friend Brocca has deced to help finish. im not sure which he is gonna help take care but im assuming by this long absent from the forums is that he is over looking everything.
i myself. have pretty much finished everything there is for me to do . beside building descriptions.
the biggest probelm is is figureigout how to get around the errors that keap happening.as my knowledge of graphic and file source moding is barly none.
but text altering or editing i can do.
i think for the time being im gonna give the mod the basic building of the viking campaign and do the tech tree that way so there is no error when building things.
until i get an experiance campain modder recruited i will do a temporary patch jost for the current status of the game.
---------------
you will still have the camp map that was given in the 3 installs of the game.
but i will upload a smaller patch that will convert the units and the buildings to being MTW building tech tree.
the images of the units and the allegiance will remain but the future progress of this mod is in the hands of an experiance campaign modder.
maps and land brdige are already avaible.
so to sum up what im gonan do tell either i get better at moding or a experiance modder picks up the torch. is
the patch will include.
METW_BUILD_PROD.txt
which will be the viking build production.
and new description file that will give descriptions of the middle earth units.
and i will see if i can't convert the names of the regions to the names on the campmap background.
and thats all im probably gonna do.. but for now im gonna go to sleep. and get back at it tomorrow with a refresh morale.
god damn it.. no matter what i do. how i do it. the game jsut will not accept any of my editing of the building production for this mod. but any other editing on any other mod it will.
im beggin to realy hate this mod. and am beggin to think it isn't worth it.
maybe a brand new mod in the possible future copying the units of this mod but transfering them other a brand new mod.. maybe..but right now i don't know how they made what they had as far as campaign moding...
Hi mate
Maybe you the silmarlillion team cane help you mate, or give a mail to ME tw team to help or give you the info or things you need. both of the mods stopt maybe you cane finnish it of mate, it would be great and i think a lot of MTW players think the same way and i think both of the mods are a bit simler:2thumbsup:
the problem with that mate is that they all went to their big project with rome total war.. all the members are workin on the smil and middle earth for rtw.
and they stoped talkin on there forums. but moved to the chasmber of secrets.
but axel i can guide you on how to get the three downloads so ou can play the custom battles.
its simple.
first hit back a couple pages on this forum and look for icareu84 ..
the top two links still work. the first one is 7.0a the second one is link to the download page. hit the second one.
grab .
7.0beta
campmap.7.0a
then there smaller patch 7.1a
this will set you up just for custom battles after all three are installed.
you can play the camp map but i would suggest turning off.
tool tips- and all the tick boxes that give pop up messages for buidling production..
never right click any of the buildings. the units are fine but there not translate meaning they havn't been added to the description text in.
loc/english/descriptions
other then that you can still play the campaign that way
until i get a reply from barocca or my friend lars gets online msn.
i don't think i will be able to get a smaller patch...
axel and anybody else that wants to play custom battles as middle earth mod.
http://www.3ddownloads.com/totalwar/Hosted%20Mods/METW%20-%20Middle%20Earth%20Total%20War
ignore the for rome total war ..
get the 7.0
7.0a
and the 7.1a
to play the campaign when you start a faciton.
go to the arrow at the top of the screen bring out the menu that says tool tips tidy up units.
un check all the box that would hav ea progress report of a building complete.
while playing the campaign don't right click any of the map building or tech tree.
you cna still left click any of the buildings to build..
as for mordor-isenguard-any others that isn't catholic culter. i don't recomend you training crusades.
later all
Hi mate
do you meen you cane play the campain??? and is this a beta version mate???
they are what i hav ebeen trying ot work on.
i was attempting ot make a patch.rar that would include land descriptions-unit descriptions. and the building production would be that of viking campaign but the units of METW...and the camp map of the orignal.
but alas any attempt i ever did failed. the hard coaded text of the era start pros is so confushing to me. there was no way i could figur eoit out.
my knowledge of editing txt is vast but thats just altering or editing. not creating.
so basicly i faild.
the three exes in that link i gave oyu is the instlation up until they left. there are two files missing there links are dead. but that is as far as they got as to what is left.
just follow my instrucitons on how to play the campaign
don't right rlick the buildings of the castle on the map. you can right click the units and the regions just not he buidlgins.
also click the show tool tips-faciton anoucments any box governing a event parmachy displying a pic of a buidlign being built.
with that all being done you shouldn't have any trouble playign the camppaign.
Thx mate
its to bad you cant fix the mod mate.
Maybe you cane help or fix the silmarlillion team they did nt quit the mod they just put the mod on hold:idea2: i think if you mail on there post on forum maybe they want to get up the mod again:yes:
from what i know why modders gave up MTW for RTW is that
seige battles and calvary and ambushes.
although when it comes to computer using ambushes its so damn rare.. there is no strategy on there part and very easy evne on the hardest diffaculty for RTW egine
but the probably the number reaosn why i could be wrong but im pretty sure is the graphics feature and population feature of civilization.
(i personly) hate this feature in the game cause it make sit hard to train new units after taking somehting. but anyways thats th reason why they droped there projects on MTW for RTW is mostly the graphics feature and the ability to get up close to the battles and see the unit detail.
which is 70% of the time the reason for mods anyway to capture the players feel for the game.. the idea for more young gamers is not enough they need imagery .
Oh drat, this one was looking cool... :shrug:
christof139
06-30-2007, 21:43
You suppose right. The dev stopped a few weeks before metw.net went down.
Christof sent me an email with txt files, i answered the email but i didn't look inside the files immediatly. Later, when i checked the files, they were empty !
I asked several times for the files, he said he would send the files again, but he never did so and became somewhat upset with me i think.
Hi Icare, No, I was never angry at you and I did send the text files to you again!!!
I got tired because no one else was doing anything.
I had the campaign running great!!! With Naval fully functioning, land units adjuted for movement and defense and attack statistics etc. Also, I had the Castle build sequence with the correct icons working flawlessly for the Campaign Map.
I will see if I can find all these files, as I think I may have tme saved on disk, but they may be not the latest files I made. I can figure ourt the castle build sequence again for the Campaign Map I think, and with the correct icons.
I can look into this over the next week or so.
I had the game running nearly flawlessly, and there were only some bugs on certain battle maps and only with certain units sometimes, but usually the units performed fine. I made the units smaller, adjusted heights etc.
If I find the files and get the game running good, I can send the whole thing to you by airmail copied on a disk. Might be easier
First I have to find the files and get the game going. I stopped at the point where I was making icons for your Dwarven Mine, remember?? Also, you sent me all the Parchment files for the units you had made, the Orcks etc. Remember?? I was integrating those into the game, but also using vanilla and modified METW files.
I don't know if I have the LBM etc. photo tool saved or not, and I have forgotten how to convert graphics/icon files, have forgotten the sequence of tools to use etc. :dizzy2:
I have forgotten how to mod this game, but I will quickly relearn and remember after looking at the files and installing the game and mod.:wall:
I will try and help you and your friends with the info. I have saved, and I do believe I saved stuff, but it wasn't the latest version of what I did. I had a hard drive crash and etc. and then had another one, so I rebuilt my old computer and also have a newer computer that I built.
Hope things have been good with you. :beam:
Your friend, Chris in Detroit
PS: Here is my email: christof139hotmail.com
christof139
07-01-2007, 01:07
Icare,
Also, I changed many descriptions of the troops types, and added more buildings and review panel icons etc. I did a large amount of work. I have to look for all this on disk, and as Isaid, I do not know if I saved my latest version and therefore will have to load the vanilla METW and Viking Invasion, get the patches for them, and then find the mod files, put them in and see if I can get it all working.
Will take some time.
Chris
So...Thier might be a working campaign of this soon? That would be great! I loved it before, but with a working campaign, that would just be completely wunderbar!
christof139
07-01-2007, 13:17
So...Thier might be a working campaign of this soon? That would be great! I loved it before, but with a working campaign, that would just be completely wunderbar!
Hi, Another problem I ran into was the Names file, the file where certai Personalities and Heroes appear at certain times. I could not get this to work as it required yet more time and experimentation and I was doing everything else that needed to be done. I could get no help what-so-ever with the Names file concerning Personality and Hero name changes.
For the Portraits of Generals, I simply used altered portraits of Mongols for the Orcs and Easterlings (added fangs and red eyes and chamged skin coor slightly for he Orcs) and I used Arabs and Turks for the Haradrim. For Rohan and Gondor I used vanilla and altered Vikings and Europeans. Icare and the originators of the mod had some portraits of Elves if I am not mistaken. So, this basically worked fine.
I had changed Parchment and Tooltip Descriptions of Buildings and Units but I was not quite finished.
Today is Sunday, and later today I may load METW-VI and see if I can get the files for the mod off of a disk where I hopefully saved them, but they are slightly outdated files.
I don't and didn't intend on doing everything myself, and any help and cooperation would be appreciated. It is aggravating to have people suggesting and only suggesting and prodding and being pesky and pesty yet these same people offer no help what-so-ever except to run their stupid mouhts continuously.
If Cegorach and others are working on this, then that is good.
A main problem with the mod was that the castle build icons did not show up properly on the Campaign Map, and I finally came up with the correct Castle Build Sequence and had the correct icons that I modded from the original mod icons, and I als used the vanilla Fort and/or Motte and Bailey for early constuctions of the Castles.
The original mod also only had one generic Evil and good building for use with all the other buildings in the game, such as blacksmiths, stables, etc., and I changed this and added the vanilla ancilliary buildings and some modded building icons of my own for the Review Panel and the Parchments.
So, hopefully, I can find the files, especially the castle build sequence, and I can send those to Cegorach and Icare, either on disk by mail or over the inet. I can upload the larger files and perhaps Zip the whole thing into one file, but have not used Winzip or RAR in a long time and some simple help in directions and some cooperation would be nice to have at times, otherwise mods never get finished.
The mod was great to play, and the battles worked very smoothly. There was a problem with the nagul in that they ran aimlessly all over the screen/battlefield, and I had that corrected at about 80% efficiency, smae for the Uruk-hai and Dunlending Wildmen but those Saurmanic units were functioning properly at 100% efficiency.
It was fun!!!
I am glad to have found icare again, and that Cegorach et al are doing some work on this.
Chris
christof139
07-01-2007, 15:42
Icare,
I did not copy the files to a disk, as my old 40GB Hard Drive crashed, so I do not have any files anymore. None, nada, nichts.
I can take my old hard drive to a computer shop and see if any info. is capable of being recovered. It may be possible.
Your mod, with my alterations worked good, and the battles were smooth, as was the campaign.
All your sprites are great, and with smaller units of Orcs and other troop types the battles were balanced. I lowered Orcs to about 40 to 60 trops per unit I think, except perhaps the Mordor rabble who may have had 20 or so more troops per unit. The Morgul Orcs worked great and were tough t beat, as were the Uruk-hai.
All the good troops had their stats lessened, but they were still more powerful than the Evil units, but the Evil side definitely could win battles.
So, I guess I have to start from scratch, and I guess i could get the castle Build sequence working for the campaign. i can try again maybe.
Chris
cegorach
07-02-2007, 07:20
Christof
I rememeber you from the old Middleearth forum. At that time I was keen on the project, but never received any files with your work from Icare and later the forum side crashed.
Currently I have no time to continue with my support, but I wish someone would finally make it work on campaign level.:2thumbsup:
christof139
07-02-2007, 16:12
Cegorach,
I have another 80GB hard drive I am going to look at and see if I have any METW-VI-ME files on it. I actually don't know/remember but it seems I copied the whole game somewhere, maybe not.
The main problem with the Campaign was the Castle Build Sequence.
In the tactical battles the units did not fuction well because their reaction radius/diameter and sizes were off, and that is why the Nazgul and Uruk-hai and Dunlendings wandered all over the screen.
I have to relearn the system in order to do anything with it, but I do remember quite a bit.
I had campaigns running on my old computer that were working fine, with naval units and weapons and armor upgrades for the troops, farms, and other tech. buildings. I just used vanilla farms and tech. buildings, and made some simple modifications to them and to the Mod Buildings that came with the mod. It was all wotking smoothly, except I could not get the Names etc. files working for the Leaders.
So, I may/will try and get the basic Campaign working again.
Now, I have to find that 80GB hard drive and connect it to see if any files are on it.
Too bad this Mod never worked as released and people abandonded it, but I had it working fine.
Nice to meet you, and I have seen your immense and good work with the Pike and Musket mods., and appreciate your knowledge of history. I too am of Polish ancestory, 50%, my better half. :charge:
ZT's is a subjective know-it-all fairy-tale place BTW. I imagine the ?great, reincarnated 'kniaz'? still lies about people and facts, and misconstrues and makes a farce of actual history.
This Hyborian Age mod here also looks interesting. Never liked the RTW engine and screen graphics and I imagine METW2 is the same, but I will load them and try them again. METW 1 is better IMHO.
Now, where did I put that old 80GB hard drive, as it is not next to my old and defunct 40GB hard drive.
Stolat!! Chris
PS: Czarni piwo (sp?), dark beer is delicious, and Wawel Honey Mead from Poland (another item ZT's had not any knowledge of) is also good, too bad I do not imbibe of these miraculous beverages anymore.
christof139
07-22-2007, 23:21
Icare, the other person that has a working set of my Text files for METW-VI is Jack from the old forum, and Jack is now at the Chamber of Lore at the RTW-BI METW site.
Here is a link to Jack's public profile at METW:
http://www.chamber-of-records.com/forum/member.php?u=95
I had METW-VI working flawlessly with the correct ME Campaign Map (have to check the box on the mos installation and patch it to 7.1). I used a lot of vanilla buildings and the few buildings provided with the mod, and also altered the Camp. Map buildings. I was adding portraits, infopics. etc.
The game will not run without my files, so check with Jack.
I have not looked on my old 80BG HD yet for the files and mod and hope they are there.
I cannot break into my crashed 40GB HD that has the files and mod, although I will try again.
The mod was running fine, with Naval units etc., and I had several test campaigns going without any glitches except for missing infopics, portraits, and names. I could never get the Names file to work and I needed help with it, and when I asked for help at the old forum I was rudely snubbed in that I recieved no offer of assistance.
So, the heck with it. It was insulting to try and get help and deal with some of the moronic idiots that didn't do anything to help and only harrassed me.
What a joke. If I find the files and mod on one of my HD's and get it going again, I would be interested in finishing the mod, but I needed help with the names and the infopics. I used moddified vanilla infopics for some units and they were OK, along with the infopics you sent me. I have downladed Ultrapaint to work with the LBM's but have to relearn how to do all this and that would only take a short while (time).
So, please ask Jack for my files, and I think I may also do so, plus I have to check my 80GB HD and try and get in the 40GB HD again.
I find it rather strange the METW RTW-BI has not released any updates to that RTW mod, but I guess that is because it has been ported to BI. I look forward to this mod when it is finished, as I finally installed RTW again and also BI. I like BI but cannot stand the historical inaccuracy of vanilla RTW.
I presently have installed on my computer the Extended Greek Mod (XGM), End of days (great mod!!), and will also install RTR 7.0 Platinum for BI, and for the old MTW-VI have to install the GREAT XL Mod, SPQR, etc.
If I had gotten some help and cooperation then METW-VI would be finished or at least playable, since as it was released the mod was completely unplayble in campaign mode but I made the campaign run flawlessly except for the Names and more Portriats and Infopics that were needed. I also wrote some excellent Unit and Building descriptions and Tooltips, much better than the garbage that was in the mod release, and it was garbage to a large degree, very 'flowery', confusing, and childish language and writing style used for the Descriptions and Tooltips. My writing style is vasyly superior and to the point and without the silly Warhammer style of writing. IOTW, I wrote the descriptions with directness, accuracy, brevity as much as could be done, and with a good historical knowledge of Ancient and Medieval warfare.
Example: Who in their right mind would write a description of a horde of Morgul Orc Spearmen that contains a phrase such as 'spearpoints POKING out above them' or some such nonsense. Usage of the word 'Poking' in this respect is more applicable to use in a children's book!!! Warhammmer Bull Sh-t style of writing. 'Thrusting' or 'bristling' are much more appropriate words to use in place of 'Poking'.
Most sincerely, Chris in Detroit
Sorry Chris, i haven't been here for a while.
I guess "hotmail" screwed everything then, that's too bad.
I can't be of any help as i have lost everything with my old hdd and have forgotten how to mod mtw:vi. (i am getting old ^^ ).
I wish you could finnish this mod as well, but there is no obligation, i would understand if you let this mod unfinished as the game is quite old now (it was a great experience for me to mod/work with a fellow modder like you anyway).
My msn and email is still the same btw: Icare83@hotmail.com .
Sincerely, Icare.
christof139
07-30-2007, 01:45
Hi Icare,
I still have to look and see if it is on my 80GB HD. No luck trying to get into my crashed 40GB HD that had the game data on it. I think I may hve copied it to the 80GB HD, but don't know until I look.
I gave some earlier version files to Jack, the Jack fellow here in this thread, and he may have them, but he was doing some minor twesking himself and I don't think he actually realized that I got the campaign going and fixed the issue with the Nazgul Uruk-hai Pikes, Trolls, and Dunlanders wandeing all over the screen in a disorganized fashion. I don't think he knew how and simply didn't install my text files.
The game ran near flawlessy, except for a couple of very minor issues still left with the battles, and I mean very, very minor, unnoticebale almost, mainly with the Nazgul. The campaign I had running flawlessly, and the only thing that had stopped it from running good was the castle Build Sequence for the Campmap, which I finally fixed with much work, and I used the early Motte and Bailey for the original Campmap Fort for all factions, then I used the Campmap Fort Icons you provided in the game and used vanilla Fortresses and Citadels modded a bit to look like good and Evil castles. I modded the Review Panel Pics too, as well as the Info Pics, and it was passable. Same for many other buildings. Plus I had most of the Info Pic descriptions and Tooltips done for all these building. I also had a Jihad working for the Evil side and a Crusade working for the Good side, with Chapter Houses etc. and this worked well. All the Naval was about done, and I had Good and Evil fleets sailing all over, but I simply used the vanilla icons mainly for both Good and Evil with the longships and western European ships for the Good side, and Arabic Dhows etc. for the Evil side, plus I modified costs, battle stats, and speed for all of the ships and this worked very well, very balanced.
Check here every now and then to see if I have found the files on my 80GB HD, and if I find them, the text files (I know you do graphics so you will have to do all the buildings yourself for the game to work, and maybe I might be able to zip the building pic files and Portraits files, if I find them) at least.
I needed help with the Names file etc. for the Characters. Too much work for me alone.
Chris
christof139
07-30-2007, 01:53
Sorry Chris, i haven't been here for a while.
I guess "hotmail" screwed everything then, that's too bad.
I can't be of any help as i have lost everything with my old hdd and have forgotten how to mod mtw:vi. (i am getting old ^^ ).
I wish you could finnish this mod as well, but there is no obligation, i would understand if you let this mod unfinished as the game is quite old now (it was a great experience for me to mod/work with a fellow modder like you anyway).
My msn and email is still the same btw: Icare83@hotmail.com .
Sincerely, Icare.
OK, I still have to look on my 80GB HD for the mod. It was working GREAT!!! Naval, descriptions of units and building including both Info. Pics and Tooltips, etc. The Uruk-hai, Dunlanders, Trolls, and especially the nazgul in the tactical battles were not wandering all over the screen and were functioning as normal vanilla troops. I even had the all the cavalry able to dismount before battles using the appropriate foot troops.
It was great, and fun.
Yes, you helped a lot with initially explaining the file system to me and I couldn't have done anything without your help AND all the very informative and helpful instructions posted at the Org. and TWC. :2thumbsup:
Chris
PS: Seems I had what amounts to a double post. Sorry about that, but my previous post to this didn't show-up and now it does.
christof139
08-14-2007, 03:52
Icare,
Unfortunately the 80Gb HD I once had the files on was reformatted by me a few months back, so the files are on my crashed and inaccessible 40Gb HD. IOTW, we are sh*t out of luck, no files, all gone.
All we needed was some help with the Names file, writing a few more new Info Pic and Tooltip descriptions, and a few other things.
The campaign was working very well, very smooth, I had played all the factions and the campaign gave some good battles to play.
Yeah, it's rather sad, as MTW-VI is still played by a lot of people.
Chris
Do you mind if I use some of the unit skins in METW for DATW? I sent you a PM, but you haven't responded yet. I don't remember which specificly, but I especially like the "eastern" ones.
Hi isnt there any way to give the METW files to Aenarion to help make MEtw and silmarillion mod complete please????
OK, could someone please recap on all that has happened to this mod over the last 6 months? It really needs some help. :yes:
Uhtred Ragnarson
02-12-2008, 23:57
Hi everybody,
This is my first post here. I from Brasil and buy MTW a few months ago, I found this mod (middle earth) and download. But ever that I will play, in the loading screen enter this screen "Error loading screen", and the game crash.
Only in the Middle Earth campaing (custom battles works ok).
I get:
METW_for_MedievalVI_Beta7.0.zip
Metw patch 7.0 to 7.1a medieval.zip
I have to download another file ? Here ?
Thank you e sorry for my english.
I don't think this mod was ever finished, Ragnarson, thus it is not playable.
christof139
02-15-2008, 09:35
This mod unfortuantely died whn everyone switched over to mod RTW-BI and I don't think the RTW-BI version was ever finished either.
Icare helped me a bit but I got the mod working including the campaign flawlessy but I don't have the files anymore.
I hope Icare or someone gives permission to the Silmillarion Mod in order that SM can use the units that were used in METW-VI-ME. The units were great, and Icare has some good unit infopics.
Chris
christof139
05-27-2008, 14:47
Hi Icare and everyone else such as Burns etc.,
Remember me from the old METW Forum?? christof139 with the Orc avatar?? The fellow that got the MTW1
METW campaign up and running but lost all the text and infopic and UI and etc. files on a crashed
hardrive, no on two crashed hard drives, and that sent the files to Icare (Renaud) but he also lost them??
Well, I found MOST of the text files and will email them to whoever wants them to test them. ALL building and text descriptions are done, including ships, and the naval aspect of the game worked fine using Long Ships as Elven Swan Ships, various Galleys as Gondorian ships, and Muslim ships as Hardrim and Corsair ships.
I never finished the names text for the leaders and generals and neither did the guy that worked on it before me, so that is incomplete.
Also, the references and descriptions of some of the buildings won't work because you have to have the info pics and strat map models for them named as they are in the text I wrote for them, but with a little work you can make this work or use your own files and graphics files.
Anyway, these text files are for anyone that wants them and I am sure much of what I did can be used.
Also, ALL the regions are named and the Tooltips for them and descriptions are done so the region text may work.
I had all this working with the 7.0 Release and the small patch for it, only that will goof this up now is that there aren't any info pics etc. named for many of the unique buildings so you will info pic etc. errors.
Also again, I switched Crusade and Jihad around, that is I gave the Good Guys the Jihad but in the descriptions it says Crusader Army or whatever since a Jihad behaved differntly than a Crusade in the game engine and a Jihad is more defensive in nature and can only be used to recapture provinces such as North or South Ithilien or what ever that have been captured by The Enemy, and a Crusade in the game engine is aggressive and more like Mordor and Friends' behavior and can be launched at any foreign province. So, IOTW, the Good Guys have Crusades (I used the name Crusade for convenience) that act as Jihads and the Bad Guys or The Enemy have Great Raids (instead of being called Crusades) that act as aggressive Crusades acoording to the game engine. This was tested and worked fine
through several campaigns I played.
The text files I am missing are the Troops Statistics and Characteristics files, all the numerical stuff needed to get the game balanced in tactical battles, have cavalry be able to dismount before a battle and have the correct in game Infantry model assigned to it so it looks like a dismounted Cavalry unit, the Higth and Spacing values I changed to stop the Uruk Pikes, Dunlanders, Trolls and Nazgul from wandering all over the screen in an incoherent fashion and I had them working great so they held formation, tweaks to manpower strengths in units and weapons and armor and attack values such as lowering the effectiveness of Elves and Dwarves but they were still very hard to kill and defeat, etc.
Missing all the Building Stats files, too.
Anyway, I am soon going to reload these text files into a new copy of MTW with METW 7.0 and patch installed in it, and then all I have to do is create/rename info pics and UI scrolls etc. to get the game working. troop cards in the battle screen may have been done already in the released mod, I
forget, but I know the description scrolls were only partially done so I had copied and renamed some of those for troops without them. Leaders Portrait pics were easy, as I just used Viking pics for Dwarves and Rohirrim and European pics for Gondorians and mongols pics for the Bad Guys, although I
did simple alterations to these pics and gave some Mongols red eyes and white/yellowish fangs to and blemished grayish skin to represent Orcs, but all the graphics files are gone. I sent all this to Icare but he says he lost them in the email, and I found these text files in my Hotmail as attachments to emails I sent to Icare. So, now I will try to find the graphics files in Hotmail or
on one of my hard drives that didn't crash, but I think all the graphics files are gone.
Chris
yes say yes get this mod running please :2thumbsup:
would be very cool to get this mod up and running!!!
veery much agreed, what news...........?
If you are interested in this mod, please, check this thread. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?133244-Middle-Earth-campaign-map&p=2053281659#post2053281659)
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