Hero Spies???

[Seven.the.Hun]

i have tried and failed, just wondering if anyone has done this and how, because i still dont know if its even possible,
oh well, if it is i just fudged up some text...
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what can you do???
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[Sun Tzui]

Hero spies?? mmmm

Do you mean high ranking spies?

If so (and I'm speaking only in terms of MTW, cause i haven't tried VI yet), I think the max you can get is a 5 star spy.

How do i do it? simple....always send 5 or 6 spies at a time to a certain province, and as soon as you have some higher ranking spies, make certain you send some rookie spies along with them, the rookies will probably get caught by the security forces, while the other will have a chance to warn you about an invasion, or cause a rebellion. In any case, use them in enemy border provinces, that'll give them a better chance of getting a higher rank IMHO.

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[Sun Tzui]

Also try looking at Spies...,how they do it and stuff... (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=15;t=16202), read Phatose's reply.....I didn't know but apparently spies efficiency is greatly reduced in VI.

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[Nowake]

Quote[/b] (Seven.the.Hun @ Mar. 17 2004,12:27)]i have tried and failed, just wondering if anyone has done this and how, because i still dont know if its even possible,
oh well, if it is i just fudged up some text...
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what can you do???
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Just aim a province that's usualy crossed by assasins or enemy spies, eliminate the border forts and keep the spy there. His valour will increase over time with every poor bastard he finds.

[Phatose]

Er....guys, he's not talking about just building a spy to high valour. He means Hero spies, specially named units equivalent to Strongbow Fitzgilbert or Guy of Gisborne. In VI you can mod them.


I haven't messed around with heros that much myself, so I can't say for sure that it's possible. But the text file claims it is. Maybe I'll investigate some.





Edit: It is indeed possible to have hero spies. While I simply don't know enough to advise anybody on how to add their own heroes of any type, I can confirm that hero spies are possible. I've just had Guy of Gisbourne, modded to be a 10 star spy running across Europe leaving chaos in his wake. If you mod any in, don't give them too many stars since they can get the star bonuses for advanced brothels on top of their starting. And a 10 star spy just isn't right.

[Seven.the.Hun]

yes, indeed, thanx again phatose,
i'm looking into a guy of gisbornne type, except i'd like to make a hero spy not an assassin, i tried and messed up, as the entries i made...i loaded a game to try out, and it loaded but my provinces were invisible, as in u could click on a province i had, and see what was in it, only after u did the map cheat though, and even then names of unit generals and such did not appear and i didnt even try to run a turn after this...at first upon loading with the new spy hero added into default heros file, the provinces i owned appeared as far away foreign ones, like the ones u cant see without an agent there, or a ship near, or the cheat enabled, i screwed up the text entry somehow and i didnt screw up the name, that's covered,
just wondering how and about anyone might have added a hero spy and how it was typed in, that would help,
if its viable then i just messed up something probably simple to enter in...
oh yes, i've added many heroes with no prob, just never a spy before...thanx for input here and before...
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[Qilue]

You need to add a line like this in default_heroes.txt in the faction where you want to add the hero.

Guy, of Gisbourne, 1190, 3, 2, 2, 2, 1, killer1, ASSASSIN, ID_LIMBO, -1 //Sheriff of Nottingham's sidekick

At the top of that file is kind of set of instructions for adding hero agents.

Something like this for a spy -

Mata, Hari, 1190, 3, 2, 2, 2, 1, no_v, SPY, ID_LIMBO, -1 //British agent during WW1

[Nowake]

Oh, but then he really expects to have some hero spies? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-smile.gif


Well, I can remember one very famous. Giovanni da Procida, had a big role in organising the Sicilian Vespres in 1281 ..

[Seven.the.Hun]

gah, i'm in hero SPIES, not assassins...
and Giovanni da Procida, is he a hero spy in the game???
cant look for him now as i am not at me computer???
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[Seven.the.Hun]

GAH
no one has made a hero SPY that has worked???
oh blah, suppose i'll just have to trial and error anything...
oh bother
should it be done???

[Kekvit Irae]

Maybe you should re-read Qilue's post one more time.

[Seven.the.Hun]

yeah, i know, i had just made a text error, screwed things up again, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif that damned laptop touchpad tends to get hit by the clumsy thumbs http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-oops.gif
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[Seven.the.Hun]

UGH cant make them work, creates strange problems when certain things are altered, and just name and spy and such in HEROES just means they dont show up when they should...??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
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[Plantagenet]

In the Default_Heroes.txt, it lists each unit type you can make a hero for. Generals, Spies, Assassins, Emissaries, Bishops, and even Princesses are all included. I've tried most of them and so far they've all worked.

[Lord Of Storms]

Dungeon's FAQ=How to add Heros to VI (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=26;t=10127;st=50)

Check my post on this topic in the FAQ...LOS

[Seven.the.Hun]

jolly good people...and thanx LOS, i've made it all work...
drinks all around...
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