Any prerequisites for a horse farmer?

[econ21]

Are there are any undocumented prerequisites for building a horse farmer? I am playing the Northumbrians and have a stables, and indeed a keep (although precious little else), but can't build a horse farmer. According to the tech tree, only a fort and a stables are required to build a horse farmer - but I can't build it. Anyone shed any light? I build one as the Welsh in a VI campaign without any trouble. thanks for any help

[Axeknight]

Bumping this up, as I want to know too Anyone? I've had provinces with no fort and a master horse breeder, and then I've got a fortress in Constantinople without any horses Its annoying

[motorhead]

Believe it or not, the techtree actually shows true info on this: you need the 20% farm upgrade to build horse buildings.

[katank]

that's true.

@ axeknight you don't have 20% in const.? that's a waste

[econ21]

Quote[/b] (motorhead @ Mar. 26 2004,17:54)]Believe it or not, the techtree actually shows true info on this: you need the 20% farm upgrade to build horse buildings.
Well, I know that's true for the main MTW tech tree but it is not for the VI tech tree (the pdf). You may be right about the 20% requirement - I'll check my old Welsh game to see if I had it then (takes an awful long time for Northumbrians to get it...).

[motorhead]

@simon: Oops, i didn't really read your first post, i was really responding to axeknight. The PDF file doesn't shows the requirements you stated, however, CA docs are notoriously incomplete. I checked the Frogbeastegg/Bushface viking techtree docs and it shows you also need the 'Forest Clearing' improvement before you can build a Horse Farmer.

[econ21]

Thanks, Motorhead - a forest clearing is a little easier for my poor Northumbrians to meet than a 20% improvement, cheers

BTW: Horsemen upgrades seem to be a big deal in VI; with a +2 to valour, they are better than mounted nobles and far cheaper - you can get both around the same time too. Get them from the province with +1 valour to horsemen and you have the potential for an insanely good unit (with all upgrades attack 9, defence 6).

[son of spam]

Yeah, it's also cool that you can build up to master horse breeder without a keep.

[VikingHorde]

Jepp, its just a shame that knights don't get the +1 valor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif