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Hakeem928
04-05-2004, 21:12
I was just playing as the Danes, and I had the greatest battle ever. Here's the situation:

1) I had just conquered Norway about five turns ago;
2) The remnants of the invasion force were kept there to maintain order in the province for those five years;
3) The Prince who lead that force had some awful vices and I really wanted him dead (his valour was -2);
4) Once loyalty was high enough to let me move them out of the province, I sent them to Livonia to weaken the garrison there.

Okay, now you have the background. Here are the numbers for the ensuing conflict:

Livonia had: 157 spearmen, 60 woodsmen, 120 Lithuanian cavalry, and 120 crossbowmen. Total = 457 men.
I had: 91 vikings, 17 archers, and 3 royal knights. Total = 111 men

I won't describe the battle in too much detail, but suffice it so say that I routed them within less than two minutes and I didn't lose very many men. I must add that I attacked them UP A SLIGHT HILL How did I do it?

Well, it goes like this. I really wanted to lose this battle, because I wanted my prince to die (hehe) and because I wanted to weaken the Livonian force for a subsequent invasion of higher-level troops. As a result, I put all my troops into loose formation so they would stand a greater chance of dying in melee, and then I charged At the last second though, just before my line was about to meet theirs, I decided that I couldn't just 'throw the battle' so ignobly..... and so I pressed CTRL-A and set everyone back to close formation. Guess what happened?

My men were in loose formation, so they were spread out quite wide. Once I pressed close formation, they all came together pretty quickly and wrapped around the flanks of the enemy line better than I have ever seen Once that happened the battle was pretty much over. I couldn't believe it

Has anyone else ever discovered this? Let me know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Ellesthyan
04-05-2004, 21:45
Good job

I must admit that I have tried using a lose formation and then returning to close, but I've never succeeded properly. However, your tactic is new for me and can be quite useful; I will definately try it out soon

VikingHorde
04-05-2004, 21:51
Great job, theres nothing like a good battle.

Doug-Thompson
04-05-2004, 22:38
Timing is everything.
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katank
04-05-2004, 23:32
really? I guess timing is important to all the formation changing tricks. I'll definitely give this a try.

Wish swiping was still there though. Combined with this, it would rock.

Satyr
04-05-2004, 23:37
I believe you would have less success if you were playing VI. Version 2 fixed some bugs in how attacks are done when one company wraps another. This was used to great effect in MP until version 2 came out.

hoom
04-06-2004, 01:47
I used that tactic occasionally back in Shogun.
The AI uses it quite frequently MTW (VI too probably), just watch some of those units once they get into battle, you'll see them change to loose, spread out & then come charging in on your flanks.

Hakeem928
04-06-2004, 03:04
In response to an above comment, I am playing VI. I bought the Battle Collection just a few months ago http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

PseRamesses
04-06-2004, 03:17
Wow Great job Hakeem928 Could prove valuable when storming an "archer-hill".

makkyo
04-06-2004, 22:29
Wow good job (but I'm sorry that you're prince lived)

octavian
04-07-2004, 03:20
my condolences on an unsucessful suicide http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif canucks 4evah