Good one

[makkyo]

I love your rightful sence of humor And i am sad for all the spam imposed upon the vonerable young patrons...

[Gregoshi]

Glad you enjoyed it. I had a pretty good time writing it.

[makkyo]

I guess it really is moderator hell

[son of spam]

What a great excuse to spam

BTW what's the joke?

[Monk]

Quote[/b] (son of spam @ April 14 2004,17:59)]What a great excuse to spam

BTW what's the joke?
Check the Shrine of Gregoshi at the bottem of page 2.

[JAG]

Surprised Greg didn't close this thread when he posted :p

[The Wizard]

Huhu, spam outside of the tavern

[Gregoshi]

JAG, it just depends how bad the stench of SPAM gets in this topic. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Actually, I'd rather not close threads - too much thought required.

Should I close this thread?
Ooow Brain...hurts...need aspirin
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thinking2.gif

[JAG]

Spam for all then :D

[Gregoshi]

You're bad. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[JAG]

Being all bad isn't such a bad thing, it does have its good points ;)

[Divine Wind]

Ohh as soon as he closes one spam thread he opens another Very sneaky http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Bezalel]

Spam tastes funny.

[Demon of Light]

In attempt to make this thread worthwhile, I invite everyone to write what odds they would lay on peace in the Middle East together with an explanation.

[Voigtkampf]

Do not dare...

[Lord Ovaat]

Actually spam has gotten a bad rap. It doesn't taste all that bad, and it's a good source of protein and fat. Burp. Always have a can or two in the cupboard, just in case the revolution starts. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

There. I think that's 192 and counting.

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 16 2004,11:27)]Do not dare...
I dare

[JAG]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ April 16 2004,06:56)]In attempt to make this thread worthwhile, I invite everyone to write what odds they would lay on peace in the Middle East together with an explanation.
0 - Bush.

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ April 16 2004,18:12)]
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 16 2004,11:27)]Do not dare...
I dare
Oh, no you do not http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-bobby2.gif

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 17 2004,04:46)]
Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ April 16 2004,18:12)]
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 16 2004,11:27)]Do not dare...
I dare
Oh, no you do not http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-bobby2.gif
Oh yes I do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-devil.gif



10,000-1 Reason: Ariel Sharon and the stubborn belief by both parties that they are Right.

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ April 18 2004,02:28)]
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 17 2004,04:46)]
Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ April 16 2004,18:12)]
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 16 2004,11:27)]Do not dare...
I dare
Oh, no you do not http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-bobby2.gif
Oh yes I do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-devil.gif
TEH BAN http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stop.gif

[son of spam]

10-1 depending on whether th3r3 15 4 1337 m4ss1v3 NUK3 strike


*runs off before voightkampf beats him with large club*

[Gregoshi]

Ahem

Have a pity please We EH moderators have to read all the post looking for new Junior Patrons, helping them (and others) who need it and getting to know the JPs so we can promote them. This rash of SPAMing topics is wasting our time and interfering with our work. A little SPAM never hurt anyone and is even fun every now and then, but it is getting a little out of hand lately. We have outlets for those primal SPAMing urges, so please use them.

And you're also making me feel like a meanie having to stomp on your fun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Perhaps we should tie one of them to the main mast and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-whip.gif. Boost up the discipline. My guess is that this Demon of Twilight figure is behind all of this. 'Nuff said.

PS After careful consideration, I believe I am aiding this spam myself as well. THE BAN for me too, then… http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stop.gif

[Gregoshi]

No need for teh BAN
Just less of teh SPAM. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 18 2004,04:14)]
Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ April 18 2004,02:28)]
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 17 2004,04:46)]
Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ April 16 2004,18:12)]
Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 16 2004,11:27)]Do not dare...
I dare
Oh, no you do not http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-bobby2.gif
Oh yes I do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-devil.gif
TEH BAN http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-stop.gif
This is both amusing and quickly ceasing to be amusing at the same time. Amusing in the sense that I am being threatened by someone who neither outranks me or has seniority over me as a moderator. (jokingly or not but I lean towards voigtkampf being entirely serious due to the lack of anything even vaguely humorous in his posts)Quickly ceasing to be amusing in the sense that there is a genuine note of animosity present here that quite frankly seems grossly out of place.

I don't know what the complaint is because I haven't seen anything articulated on that subject. The result is that I'm going to have to guess. The objection would either appear to be that I am attempting to create more spam or that I am introducing an inflammatory subject (I can't even begin to imagine what motivation would be assigned to me in the latter case). Both points can be answered with the same rebuttal.

I have been noticing the same trend that Gregoshi pointed out in his post. Lots of spamming threads. It was my intent to save Gregoshi the trouble of dealing with ANOTHER spamming thread (reading the posts, issueing warnings and eventually shutting it down) by turning the thread towards the discussion of a legitimate topic. I thought about it for a few minutes and chose the Middle East as the topic. Maybe 15 seconds later, I came up with the mechanism (odds on peace) by which I would be soliciting opinions. The subject is a legitimate one so there was no intent to spam. My language was nothing that even approaches baiting so I can't be said to be inviting a flame war.

voigtkampf You said
Quote[/b] ]Perhaps we should tie one of them to the main mast and . Boost up the discipline. My guess is that this Demon of Twilight(sic) figure is behind all of this. 'Nuff said.
Nowhere near 'nuff said. I'm not in the habit of allowing myself to be characterized inaccurately. Again, I'm really not entirely certain what you are accusing me of (despite any educated guesses I might make) but the entire characterization of me being the ringleader of some negative action simply does not match up with either my intent or my actions.

Further, I am not in the habit of capitulating to demands made by people with no authority over me. Mind you, outranking a person on an internet gaming site really isn't anything that means a whole lot but just on principle I would point out that we hold the same rank and that I've had mine longer (thus seniority if that counts for anything). I'm not trying to hit you over the head with my rank. I simply want to point out that I am not at all under your jurisdiction in this matter. You aren't an Entrance Hall moderator and absent that you don't hold a higher rank.

That brings me to the next part of my reply: TEH BAN. I really wouldn't be within my rights to even bring up rank if the shadow of administrative action hadn't been involved. We would simply have a disagreement otherwise. It was brought up though so here I am. With respect to the internet community here, (though certainly not in the real world thankfully) there is a great deal of weight attached to a moderator introducing the spectre of a ban. That really is the point at which I am forced to respond. Please understand that I say this with no malice or anger but I'll not stand to be threatened when I am not at fault by someone without the authority to issue threats to me. It simply isn't something I'll let pass without a response. (You could in some hideously unfair world convince someone with power to sanction me but the power to issue the sanction is still not your own)



I invite you to respond to me here but if you prefer, PM me. Please understand that if there is no response at all I'll simply copy the text of my post to a PM and send it to you. If you don't want to talk about it, please state so. In the alternative, please note that I can be very persistant.

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ April 18 2004,21:02)]Ahem

Have a pity please We EH moderators have to read all the post looking for new Junior Patrons, helping them (and others) who need it and getting to know the JPs so we can promote them. This rash of SPAMing topics is wasting our time and interfering with our work. A little SPAM never hurt anyone and is even fun every now and then, but it is getting a little out of hand lately. We have outlets for those primal SPAMing urges, so please use them.

And you're also making me feel like a meanie having to stomp on your fun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Gregoshi: The meaning of the post is pretty clear but I am uncertain regarding the intent, motivation, and intended audience. Please advise. A PM in this case would be preferable.

(Basicly, are you trying to tell me something)

[Gregoshi]

Sorry for the confusion. The you was directed at a group, i.e., those who have been SPAMing. Deep down in each person's heart, they know whether or not their posts have a legitimate point or if the sole intention is to increase their post count via SPAM. It is to those who know they've been indulging in SPAM that I address.

I use PM a lot to contact patrons about good things and bad things they do, so I would have PMed you if I had a message specifically for you - one way or another.

[Gregoshi]

Upon further review, this thread pretty much outlived its intended purpose after about the 7th or 8th post. Topic closed.