What Brings You Here? [Archive]

Togakure

04-20-2004, 23:16

Totalwar.org enjoys the attention of thousands of people from all over the world. Here we engage in conversation about a myriad of subjects, TW games being only part of them. What is it that brings you here? What do you like about the Org?

Please focus on positive things in this thread. If you would like to express (hopefully constructive) criticisms, please start a thread of your own.

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The Org was not the first TW site I found when I came online last September. I found Totalwars.net first, and the Org soon after. After about a month of visiting both sites, I found myself spending most of my time here.

Why? I love the international representation here--so many people with so many different perspectives. I love all the useful TW information, enhancements, and tools you can find here. I love all the helpful, friendly and courteous people that hang out here. When I get bored with TW, I can participate in discussions about history, philosophy, other games, and a number of other interesting subjects. There is a thriving creative community here as well--guide authors, story authors, modders, mapmakers, software tool developers. And there are those with the big hearts that dedicate much time to helping others--with no return, other than thank yous and the feeling you get when you know you've done good. I love the staff here--they are committed to keeping the Org a great place for TW fans. They set model examples of how to conduct ourselves in an online community.

Most of all, I love the friends I make here. Some have said to me that online friends aren't real because you can't see them, you can't touch them--you don't really know them. I disagree. Through time spent in game and on the forums, developing a sense of their nature and character, I feel that I know my friends here quite well. Admittedly, I yearn to know what their smiles look like, and to see the twinkle in their eyes when they joke and laugh, and to be able to put my arm around their shoulders when they're having a tough time. Instead, I must use words, and they often seem so inadequate. But, we must work within the limitations of our environment, so I just do my best to convey who I am, and what I have to offer, through my writing (and with my armies on the field http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ).

Domo Arigato Gozaimashita, Total War friends around the world. I am not ashamed to say that you are all an important part of my life. You are cherished. (*bows*)

gaelic cowboy

04-20-2004, 23:24

For me it keep's me going till the weekend and more total war posting while at work http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Goofball

04-20-2004, 23:41

For me it's the Tavern. For the most part, the arguments and ideas espoused in there are well thought out and clearly articulated (yes Cebei, even yours)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The quality of debate is far better than I am able to have with my real life friends. Tavern discussions have opened my mind to ideas I wouldn't have ordinarily been exposed too, and improved the quality of my own research and presentation of ideas. I have definitely had to work on the quality of my arguments, because no matter how much I think I know, I can always be damned sure there is someone lurking in the Tavern who knows more...

vlad_demstra

04-20-2004, 23:43

I like this place for one reason, When I need something, I ask, even tho i might have asked it 3 times for many diff reasons. no one seems to get mad or fusterated.

Cebei

04-20-2004, 23:48

I got friends here, the ORG is like the cafe I drop by everyday to chat and discuss things. Also contrary to civilisation forums, the people here are actually know history and can support their arguments without bad words. Finally, it is a valuable place for inter-cultural experience.

Mithrandir

04-21-2004, 00:23

For me it's the insanely high paycheck Tosa hands out monthly.

Well, it's enough to buy me some beers every week, so that's reason enough alone.

Next to that, melikes the atmosphere, people but most of all,

these smilies :

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

Big King Sanctaphrax

04-21-2004, 00:26

I like the fact that there in no 733t sp34k in sight...and this is the only forum I have ever been to where the sole contributor to a babe thread is a moderator...rule, Orgtannia, Orgtannia rules the waves...

Doug-Thompson

04-21-2004, 00:26

No flames, which is quite amazing when you think about it.

mbrasher1

04-21-2004, 00:52

It is a forum to validate our shared obsessions. The org makes me feel, gulp, normal.

son of spam

04-21-2004, 01:32

Soly's thread.

That and to practice my 1337 h4x0r 5ki11z

*runs away from Bi9 Kin9 54nct4phr4x

ichi

04-21-2004, 01:52

I came here for answers to my questions about the game. IMO the .com forums are a little too chaotic and the answers here a little clearer. The .Net didn't exist at the time.

Now I stay because I like the people and the atmosphere, and I still learn things about the game. The .Net also gets a lot of my attention - both the Org and the Net serve a purpose.

Togakure is pretty much right on when he describs the community here. TW attracts a slightly different crowd from other games - maybe a little older maybe a little more chivalric - and The Org captures that feeling quite well.

ichi

Sternness

04-21-2004, 02:24

Well, I came here first, and never really had to look elsewhere. The people here are good and helpful, and all the information I could ever want is just a click away. Plus, the historical discussions seem to always be informative and well supported. What more could I want?

Lord Ovaat

04-21-2004, 03:16

This is the only forum I've ever wanted to join. Most I've visited resemble lunatic assylums. I can relate to about everything TOGAKURE has already said, along with it interestingly helps pass the time between the inevitable boredom that comes with mastering a game and waiting for the next mod or RTW. Not that any of us truly masters the game, but you learn more than enough to remove most of the suspense. Why am I still here? Haven't been told to leave. Yet. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mouzafphaerre

04-21-2004, 06:13

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If I get engaged in a game enough, I find myself in its related communities. Some of those communities have led to far deeper friendships.

At first I came to the ORG because it was the place for TW. Well, it still is. I also wanted to learn modding, and well, I am. But after a while I have noticed that -like Cebei- the place has become one of the corner cafes I regularly spam.

You just can't stop it once you start making friendships. I'm right at that point now.
_

NormanPain

04-21-2004, 07:54

The people who share my interests and are well informed in history and the friendly arguments about such things is what brings me back the most... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif

Voigtkampf

04-21-2004, 07:58

TotalWar Org inspires me, and I hear from people from all the different sides of world, stating their opinions, talking about their wishes and complaining about injustices of the upcoming R:TW. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif I do not visit any other place online anymore, aside some technical forums where I go when I need new info or help. Org has it all, and its members are of all ages and different occupations, and their insights are mostly refreshing and interesting. I lurked this place for a long time, and I do not regret it the least I decided to step out and join the community. Since no other forums have ever managed to draw my attention for longer time than this one, I believe that is the best advertisement I can say about the magnificent Org.

Cazbol

04-21-2004, 08:26

I come here to show off my vast intellect. Well, that and to witness Redleg and Squippy debate the subtleties of politics. You just don't get stuff like that anywhere else.

Seriously, it's the most civil forums I've encountered, offering the most interesting and varied topics. I originally came here to ask a question about Shogun. I received a really nice welcome (probably a http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif if they had those in 2002). Therefore I soon came back and started finding this a cosy place. I ended up switching out my otherwise excellent X-COM forums for the Org.

Navaros

04-21-2004, 08:47

i come here because i needed a place to discuss Total War

i found the Official Boards first and to be honest, IMO the Official Boards are run in a method very similar to the (insert inappropriate, insensitive and over-used cliche here) in that if you say anything even slightly against Total War then the Mods there will silence you immediately. i HATE having Thought Police censorship for no valid reason and those guys impose that up your yin-yang thinking that it's gonna save CA from losing a sale i suppose (it won't - guests on those boards will see what's going on and it's only gonna make them LESS likely to buy CA products).

at least here they let you speak your mind, somewhat. so i give this site some props for that.

Edit: here comes the somewhat speak your mind part - replaced an offensive and over-the-line description in this post. - Gregoshi

Leo

04-21-2004, 10:13

I stumbled about this forum when I was doing a google search for pikemen.
I've been playing Medieval for quite some time and was doing quite well on the strategic map but less so in battles. In fact I mostly let the computer autoresolve it. With the help of the guides here I found new pleasure in doing the battles by myself.
Secondly I like the historical discussions in here very much, because there are many people in here who seem to know what they are talking about. Too bad I can't contribute in most of them.

frogbeastegg

04-21-2004, 10:47

Because my left arm is chained to the beginner's guide, and my right to the unit guide, and the perimeter is guarded by people with suggestions and compliments on them. I'm too well guarded to leave http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

I don't exactly know why I'm still here, or even here in the first place. I originally started off on .com to thank Bushface for his MTW maps, but got fed up of the atmosphere and drifted over here. I was a long time lurker on both sites, been reading the org since the days of Shogun's demo. I've been to other forums, posted a bit, then drifted away because there is nothing to keep me there. There is always something here that is interesting, the people are nice, the atmosphere is good, there is a lack of flaming and stupid rubbish like m4d h4x0r speak...I don't even care about MTW any more, except the occasional rare bout of MP. I'm a mod on a games site and I don't really even like the game any more, well I suppose I do play the occasional Shogun now and then but MTW is so unappealing now. Of course that begs the question of why I am spending so much time writing guides for MTW...

Bodew

04-21-2004, 20:33

I came to this forum for information about the game before I purchased it. This is the only forum I have regularly came back to for more than looking for specific information, and the only one I have ever actually joined. I now come here almost daily simply to see what everyone has to say.

Jochi Khan

04-21-2004, 21:13

It is a good way of keeping 'up-to-date' with the latest information.
A mine of information about all aspects of the game and the technical side of things.

...Jochi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-book2.gif

Ulair

04-21-2004, 22:15

Simple:
1) I'm a (fairly new) player of MTW;
2) the Org is full of helpful, intelligent and downright pleasant people.

This makes the Org such a refreshing rarity among online communities. Just the other day I followed some HalfLife link to some community thread and boy, was I reminded of why I tend to spend very little time in online forums... Half that 5tuf i c4nt 3v3n tr4n574t3, and even when I can I wish I hadn't bothered. Sheesh.

D'you know, people at the Org even know how to punctuate

The Org is now a site I visit regularly - and there aren't many of those. More power to TosaInu, the admins and mods And, of course, y'all

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
Ulair

katar

04-21-2004, 22:40

i ended up coming here (lurked here for a fair while before i joined) because the damned A.I. kept beating the crap out of me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-embarassed.gif

the A.I. doesn`t win anymore. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

not to mention the good atmosphere, people who actually help and the fact that there is always something new to learn.

and lastly, i found MedMod here. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

meravelha

04-21-2004, 22:50

I'm a deserter on the run from the Russian Front at CMMC2 and happy to be somewhere where life is a little less .tense.

:)

Aymar de Bois Mauri

04-21-2004, 23:48

I must make Lord voigtkampf's words, my own. Very well put. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-thumbsup.gif I share his views on this subject and I must say I've also lurked this place for a long time (since 2001) before joining in...

As for TogakureOjonin-sama's words, I must agree that there is a lot more probabilities to make interesting, knowledgable and friendly contacts here than in any other forum. In fact, like Lord voigtkampf said, I only have patiente to get involved in this forum, not in any other... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-cool.gif

Voigtkampf

04-22-2004, 00:07

Thank you, Lord Aymar, you flatter me… http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif I hope that you will eventually buy R:TW (in spite of all the fantasy units) so we can spend the next two years discussing about that and also, I truly hope, that we will be able to clash against each other on the battlefield in time. It is about time that all of the action goes back to TW forums and that people might discuss politics much less then they do now and play TW and argue about that instead.

octavian

04-22-2004, 00:10

Quote[/b] (meravelha @ April 21 2004,17:50)]I'm a deserter on the run from the Russian Front at CMMC2 and happy to be somewhere where life is a little less .tense.

:)
A DESERTER get him boys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-rifle.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-army.gif

I like the org cause of the mature atmosphere, and the women of solypsist http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Lord Ovaat

04-22-2004, 00:31

OCTAVIAN, if you're here for the women, you really do need a better search engine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif

HopAlongBunny

04-22-2004, 01:54

The Moderators

Definitely the Moderators

All Hail the Mods They Light a path through Darkness and turn Pestilence to CreamCheese

solypsist

04-22-2004, 06:28

I wish Mith hadn't mentioned our salary..we're not supposed to talk about it.

Anyway, my own reasons for sticking around are pretty altruistic http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

http://solypsist.homestead.com/files/SEA27001.jpg

Voigtkampf

04-22-2004, 06:56

*squeezing eyes, trying to make out some slightly revealed details*

Ahh… What was this thread all about? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

Togakure

04-22-2004, 07:49

Lovely, Soly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif . Damn, she looks exactly like my buddy's wife ... her name isn't Christine is it??

Back on topic: yet another thing to appreciate at the org http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.

Rob The Bastard

04-22-2004, 07:56

Focus, voigtkampf...

I think ( I have a memory like a sieve ) I first came here back when I bought Shogun... registered promptly ( which gave me a nice start date) nosed around a bit and disappeared just as promptly into the ether. I reappeared before MTW was released and started bitching about all the spammers overtaking my pathetic post count... then most of the junior members got temporarily thrown out of the Tavern for some indiscretion ( luckily I had been around long enough (sort of) to escape the cull) and I think my sympathetic posts and interpretations of what was happening at that stage helped bring me to the attention of the staff.

I am here because I am still interested in the TW series even though I cannot be considered hardcore... and being a member of, and participating in, this Guild gives me a measure of satisfaction that I cannot replicate exactly elsewhere...

Shahed

04-22-2004, 08:12

I could not think of any words, so I have borrowed some, with a glass of rum. This may sound weird in the context of the topic but if you think about it, maybe it makes some sense. If it does, then, this is the secondary reason why I continue to visit the org.

Sojo Henjo
Ama tsu kaze
Kumo no kayoiji
Fuki toji yo
Otome no sugata
Shibashi todomen

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/ht_bow.gif

PseRamesses

04-22-2004, 13:23

[QUOTE]I love the international representation here--so many people with so many different perspectives. I love all the useful TW information, enhancements, and tools you can find here. I love all the helpful, friendly and courteous people that hang out here. When I get bored with TW, I can participate in discussions about history, philosophy, other games, and a number of other interesting subjects. There is a thriving creative community here as well--guide authors, story authors, modders, mapmakers, software tool developers. And there are those with the big hearts that dedicate much time to helping others--with no return, other than thank yous and the feeling you get when you know you've done good. I love the staff here--they are committed to keeping the Org a great place for TW fans. They set model examples of how to conduct ourselves in an online community.[QUOTE]

Well, you took the words right out of my mouth. Theese are the exact reason why I´m here. Just looove this community http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri

04-22-2004, 14:18

Quote[/b] (Lord Ovaat @ April 21 2004,18:31)]OCTAVIAN, if you're here for the women, you really do need a better search engine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
ROTFL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-laugh4.gif HEHEHE http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-jester.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri

04-22-2004, 14:28

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ April 21 2004,18:07)]Thank you, Lord Aymar, you flatter me… http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-blush.gif
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif m8

Quote[/b] ]I hope that you will eventually buy R:TW (in spite of all the fantasy units) so we can spend the next two years discussing about that and also, I truly hope, that we will be able to clash against each other on the battlefield in time. It is about time that all of the action goes back to TW forums and that people might discuss politics much less then they do now and play TW and argue about that instead.
Still thinking about it. We'll just have to see next Fall... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-juggle.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri

04-22-2004, 14:36

Quote[/b] (PseRamesses @ April 22 2004,07:23)]
Quote[/b] ]I love the international representation here--so many people with so many different perspectives. I love all the useful TW information, enhancements, and tools you can find here. I love all the helpful, friendly and courteous people that hang out here. When I get bored with TW, I can participate in discussions about history, philosophy, other games, and a number of other interesting subjects. There is a thriving creative community here as well--guide authors, story authors, modders, mapmakers, software tool developers. And there are those with the big hearts that dedicate much time to helping others--with no return, other than thank yous and the feeling you get when you know you've done good. I love the staff here--they are committed to keeping the Org a great place for TW fans. They set model examples of how to conduct ourselves in an online community.

Well, you took the words right out of my mouth. Theese are the exact reason why I´m here. Just looove this community http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif
Yes, TogakureOjonin is quite right

This ambience doesn't come often in most online communities. Truly a varied, ecletic and mature brotherhood (no offense to the ladies in the forums, but saying sisterhood would make me a target for imediate execution... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wink.gif ...and I couldn't find a better word for it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-help.gif )

Monk

04-22-2004, 14:48

Why i came here: To escape the sorrow of my defeat, to bury the agony of humiliation, to end the cries of the fallen and silence them forever. To gain victory on the field, to drive my enemies into the seas, To end their reigns and make them disappear into the mists of time. Needless to say i came here for advice in sp and mp, and i found just what i looked for. After that (and i started doing a decent job on expert) i began to come up with TW related stories that i posted here in the EH from time to time. People seemed to like them so i kept them coming. Though i forget how many i did, and by now they must be ancient.

Why i stay: TW is a great game (despite all it's flaws) and the .org is a great community, outside of it i have never seen a forum where discussions are kept civil, most public forums that i used to frequent about games and what not, usually degenerated into meaningless flame wars. Here at the .org though it's nice to see that thousands of people from all over the world can talk about world events and not go off shouting 1 PwnZer Y0U ANd yoUr T3rR1b73 tYp1ng when somebody happens to mispell something.

JAG

04-22-2004, 21:20

Politics ;) I never miss an opportunity to bash some right wingers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Originally though just to interact with the community, it was and still is the best place.

lancer63

04-24-2004, 00:52

Been to other forums where the game's main theme has run out of gas and turned into a flame fest or useless, endless arguments about trivial things.

The .org keeps MTW talk fresh and juicy after so long and I concur with other forumers that the atmosphere here is better than a lot of other places. People comes here because they still like the game and those who grew out of it don't slap down beginners for asking noobish questions.
I like it here. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

octavian

04-24-2004, 18:57

Quote[/b] (Lord Ovaat @ April 21 2004,19:31)]OCTAVIAN, if you're here for the women, you really do need a better search engine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
lol, it just made an..........interesting contrast http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Axeknight

04-24-2004, 19:57

I first came here when I followed the link from .com; found totalwar.org to be a much better site for MTW-related info (the problem with official sites is they're mainly just advertising the game). I lurked for about a week, then registered. I got a very friendly welcome from Gregoshi on the 'New? Read this first' thread, (thanks, man http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif ) so I stayed.

I love the intelligence of this forum, how we can debate serious issues sensibly, without flame wars. And I just love to argue with JAG http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif. Being able to discuss history with people who really know what they're talking about is great, too. And now I'm writing a series in the Mead Hall (part 2 is up, BTW), so I'm in up to my neck.

Also, no l337 h4X0rS Man, that annoys me...

JAG

04-24-2004, 20:48

Quote[/b] (Axeknight @ April 24 2004,19:57)]And I just love to argue with JAG http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.
awww it's good to be loved .. I guess :p

Axeknight

04-24-2004, 20:51

Quote[/b] (JAG @ April 24 2004,21:48)]awww it's good to be loved .. I guess :p
Heh heh. But my point is, we can discuss things sensibly, without resorting to:

'I PWNED U im l337 an ur sooo StOp1d, u thnk ur l337 bt im im l337 an ur nt'

Apocalyp$e

04-25-2004, 01:45

i originally came for the toal war, but stayed because of the friendly atmosphere... no flame wars whatsoever....

WorkNeglecter

04-25-2004, 14:20

After spending a month playing MTW in all moments of free time - even waking up early before work - I started to feel like an obsessed and irresponsible person. I still do, but I realised that there are others, many others...
And most of all, I have become a better player.

Sir Zack de Caldicot

04-25-2004, 14:29

I come here for the very mature and friendly attitude of the org and most of It's members ( I Said Most http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

I also come here because of the great modding forums too

Way to go Total War http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif
Sir Zack

gaijinalways

04-25-2004, 17:20

Love this forum as well. I used to go to another, but that bit the dust. I haven't looked at the tavern section as much, I'll have to give it a look again.

I find lots of useful info for playing my campaigns, and also thinking about battle strategy, some of which applies to other games I play.

And the pic of the babe? Definately looks 'almost'Asian, me thinks Japanese?

Spartacus

04-25-2004, 19:12

i joined alot of other totalwar forums, my favourites are twc and this so what's stopping me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-lost.gif

nick_maxell

04-25-2004, 20:07

Tricky question - I think I was tired of trial and error after throwing the useless manual into some corner http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif I have been active in other game related forums and had a look for a TW one - found the .com and this place - sniffed around and got stuck here because of the wealth of info here (and I wont start about the other places like the tavern ;) - btw I have to propose to froggy for her beginners guide (guess I m in a long waiting list) - but my advice for new members is always to toss the manual and read it.
A lot of posters mentioned the suportive character of this forum and can only agree (and try my best to pass on what I learned to new patrons)

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cheers.gif all and keep the spirit up (and the pope down hehe)

nick

dedmoroz

04-25-2004, 20:25

nice people, source for all of your total war needs, interesting posts - great site its my homepage now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Ludens

05-04-2004, 20:39

I came here because I wanted to ask a unimportant question about yari samurai. But I got caught in a discussion about atheism, and participated in numerous smaller threads, so I never thought of leaving. After a month I finally remembered the question and put it up the sword dojo.

Why do I come here? Because of the atmosphere. I have been seldom in other forums but those forums always gave me the impression of people posting their rant on unit X or issue Y and then never bothering to read your reply to them. I have encountered that but once on the Org, and that's why I like it here. You are not just a poster, you are really a member.